| Author | Message | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 248 Registered: 9-2009 |
In this particular instance, the smell of death was like perfume | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4769 Registered: 4-2010 |
Does someone die? More than one? HAM? HAF? Was there a smell of perfume? Was the perfume poisoned? If there is a dead person, is he/she murdered? By a femme fatale? A black widow? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 249 Registered: 9-2009 |
Does someone die? Yes More than one? No HAM? This HAF? Was there a smell of perfume? No Was the perfume poisoned? No If there is a dead person, is he/she murdered? Noish to Nope By a femme fatale? A black widow? No to the rest | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4772 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the death suicide? Accident? Execution? Is the cause of death [LTPF list of untimely deaths]? | ||
| It_so_happened (It_so_happened)
New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 577 Registered: 5-2010 |
Is there a literal smell? That smells similar to perfume? Is it of something natural, e.g. flowers, berries, etc.? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 16 Registered: 9-2010 |
Has it got something to do with "Ring around the rosie"? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 254 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is the death suicide? No Accident? No Execution? This one Is the cause of death [LTPF list of untimely deaths]? Burning Is there a literal smell? Noish or Yope That smells similar to perfume? Yesish Is it of something natural, e.g. flowers This one, berries, etc.? Has it got something to do with "Ring around the rosie"? Nothing whatsoever Excellent questions. This might go a lot quicker than I thought | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 368 Registered: 6-2005 |
Was he burned at the stake? Does this story take place during middle age? Relevant? If it's relevant, and it's not in middle age, does this take place in the LTPF list of centuries/decades? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 256 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was he burned at the stake? Indeed Does this story take place during middle age? YesRelevant? Yes, if we want to find out who the person was, which instantly will lead to the solution If it's relevant, and it's not in middle age, does this take place in the LTPF list of centuries/decades? | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 370 Registered: 6-2005 |
True story? Or from a book (Thinking about "The name of the rose"...)? FYOI? Is he a religious of any sort? was he accused of being a sorcerer? a heretic? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 258 Registered: 9-2009 |
True story? Yes Or from a book (Thinking about "The name of the rose"...)? Nice thinking, but no FYOI? Is he a religious of any sort? Yes was he accused of being a sorcerer? a heretic? This | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 372 Registered: 6-2005 |
Relevant where the story takes place? USA? Europe? UK? Italy? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 260 Registered: 9-2009 |
Relevant where the story takes place? Yes, again for discovering the real event USA? Europe? This... UK? Italy? ... and more precisely, this | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 373 Registered: 6-2005 |
Ok, so as a short recap, in Italy, somewhere in the middle age, a religious is accused of being a heretic and burnt at the stake. Now we need to find a connection with the smell/perfume part. Starting the easy way, was a certain smell "produced" during the burning of the poor guy? Does another smell "cover" the burning smell? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 261 Registered: 9-2009 |
Ok, so as a short recap, in Italy, somewhere in the middle age, a religious is accused of being a heretic and burnt at the stake. Now we need to find a connection with the smell/perfume part. Correct Starting the easy way, was a certain smell "produced" during the burning of the poor guy? Possibly Does another smell "cover" the burning smell? Noish or irrelevant. The connection is more 'metaphorical' in nature | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4801 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was he burned during the Inquisition? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 264 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was he burned during the Inquisition? Yes | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4805 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the metaphorical perfume related to Catholicism? Protestantism? Was the man a Protestant? Perfume: incense? Was there any physical smell at all? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 265 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is the metaphorical perfume related to Catholicism? Protestantism? To none of these, FA Was the man a Protestant? No Perfume: incense? No Was there any physical smell at all? Possibly, but irrelevant | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4809 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the correction to the FA: Protestantism wasn't actually around yet? Is the man considered a martyr? So the "perfume" could be the sweet memories history has for him? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 267 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is the correction to the FA: Protestantism wasn't actually around yet? No Is the man considered a martyr? DOYD of martyr. It is not considered as such by the church, only as a heretic -- the reason he was executed So the "perfume" could be the sweet memories history has for him? Not this | ||
| It_so_happened (It_so_happened)
New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 580 Registered: 5-2010 |
I remember some story that recalled a Christian man being burned at the stake during which he sang and there was the smell of something sweet. At all relevant? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 274 Registered: 9-2009 |
I remember some story that recalled a Christian man being burned at the stake during which he sang and there was the smell of something sweet. Nice story... At all relevant? ... but not at all | ||
| It_so_happened (It_so_happened)
New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 586 Registered: 5-2010 |
Are roses the relevant flower? Were flowers planted as a result of his death? Did something happen as a result of his death that would have caused the smell? Any symbolic representation relevant (e.g. insignias, War of the Roses, etc.)? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 277 Registered: 9-2009 |
Are roses the relevant flower? No, there are no relevant flowers. Flowers in general will do Were flowers planted as a result of his death? Did something happen as a result of his death that would have caused the smell? Any symbolic representation relevant (e.g. insignias, War of the Roses, etc.)? No to rest | ||
| It_so_happened (It_so_happened)
New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 588 Registered: 5-2010 |
Is the reason for the execution relevant? Are any physical flowers relevant? Man's profession relevant? Political or religious significance of the execution relevant? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 279 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is the reason for the execution relevant? No, and it has been established already: heresy Are any physical flowers relevant? Noish Man's profession relevant? No Political or religious significance of the execution relevant? No | ||
| It_so_happened (It_so_happened)
New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 591 Registered: 5-2010 |
Specific location of execution relevant? Any specific event which occurred during the execution relevant? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 281 Registered: 9-2009 |
Specific location of execution relevant? Very much so, and also the key to the puzzle. Very good question Any specific event which occurred during the execution relevant? No | ||
| It_so_happened (It_so_happened)
New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 593 Registered: 5-2010 |
Did the execution take place in [LTPF list of European countries]? Something physically present at location relevant? Name of location relevant? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 284 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did the execution take place in [LTPF list of European countries]? Italy Something physically present at location relevant? No Name of location relevant? Indeed, and only this | ||
| It_so_happened (It_so_happened)
New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 597 Registered: 5-2010 |
Name of city? Town or village? Something else, like a forest or lake? Does it have "flower" in the name? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 288 Registered: 9-2009 |
Name of city? Town or village? Something else, like a forest or lake? Noish, but hard to answer Does it have "flower" in the name? Flowers, to be exact Almost there | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 289 Registered: 9-2009 |
I forgot to mention. Unanswered questions above are a 'no' | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 382 Registered: 6-2005 |
Is it "Campo dei fiori" (Flowers Field), in Rome? Are you italian, btw? I thought to be only one on LTPF ;-) | ||
| It_so_happened (It_so_happened)
New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 598 Registered: 5-2010 |
Is it Field of Flowers in Rome? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 291 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is it "Campo dei fiori" (Flowers Field), in Rome? Is it Field of Flowers in Rome? Indeed it is. And we have also a $poiler below Are you italian, btw? I thought to be only one on LTPF ;-) No, I'm not. One of the 'fratelli d'Italia', I guess, if I liberaly read the verses of Mameli :=) Or simply one that worked for 6 years for an Italian company ******* SPOILER ******* Giordano Bruno was accused of heresy, put to trial, condemned and executed in Rome, in the Campo de' Fiori, February 1600. The place, formerly a meadow, still hosts -- among others -- a flower market. I remembered this because, as a child, I kept saying to myself (for an unknown reason, maybe phonetical in nature): "Giordano Bruno was burnt at the stake in the Flowers' Square in Rome in AD 1600". Now Il Campo hosts a statue of Bruno in the very place where the execution took place. Thanks to all who participated and especially to Brian and Mario for the almost simultaneous solve. | ||
| It_so_happened (It_so_happened)
New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 603 Registered: 5-2010 |
Interesting! Speaking of simultaneous, we both had historical execution puzzles that were solved at the same time by each other. Funny! | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 383 Registered: 6-2005 |
Oh well, I should be supposed to know all that, but I didn't think at all about Giordano Bruno... Was he a religious btw? I only remember him as a philosopher... :-) Anyway, nice puzzle! | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4832 Registered: 4-2010 |
Good one! Sorry I couldn't be around for the end. To the best of my knowledge, Bruno was a scientist and philosopher. The Catholic Church executed him for advocating both ideas similar to Galileo's and a form of pantheism. I don't know most of the details though. | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 292 Registered: 9-2009 |
Oh well, I should be supposed to know all that, but I didn't think at all about Giordano Bruno... Due to my childhood habit, I have a tendency when hearing about someone being burnt at the stake to think about Giordano, who was, and Galileo, who missed it... not without famously uttering 'E pur si muove' Was he a religious btw? I only remember him as a philosopher... :-) Well, he was a Dominican friar, so I guess you can say that To the best of my knowledge, Bruno was a scientist and philosopher. The Catholic Church executed him for advocating both ideas similar to Galileo's and a form of pantheism. That's right. Some argue that his pantheism was the main problem, some disagree. Since I am no authority in the matter, I just imagined a puzzle, and let the scholars decide who is right and who is wrong |
