| Author | Message | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 374 Registered: 6-2005 |
I don't know how to categorize this, it's a sort of midway between an idiomuzzle and a connection-finding puzzle... anyway, give it a try, we'll see what happens... "Chat and distinctive!" | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 262 Registered: 9-2009 |
Chat = informal conversation? online chat? the bird species so named? something to do with computers and/or with Internet? IRC? noun or verb? Is this a phrase actually spoken? | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 375 Registered: 6-2005 |
Chat = informal conversation? This is closest, but still incorrect online chat? the bird species so named? something to do with computers and/or with Internet? IRC? No to rest noun or verb? Noun Is this a phrase actually spoken? Yope... explore! | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4799 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is this a common phrase? Do "Chat" and "Distinctive" stand in place of other words? Does "and" = "and"? | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 376 Registered: 6-2005 |
Is this a common phrase? Noish Do "Chat" and "Distinctive" stand in place of other words? Yesish, OTRT Does "and" = "and"? Yes | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4816 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are we trying to make connections from "Chat" and "Distinctive" to other words? Is the phrase typically written down? | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 377 Registered: 6-2005 |
Are we trying to make connections from "Chat" and "Distinctive" to other words? Yes, that's mainly something like this Is the phrase typically written down? No, and beware FA! | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4821 Registered: 4-2010 |
Chat: conversation? Text messaging? | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 378 Registered: 6-2005 |
Chat: conversation? This-ish Text messaging? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4824 Registered: 4-2010 |
Chat: Talk? | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 379 Registered: 6-2005 |
Chat: Talk? Almost yes! There's something else with it, but "talk" is part of the solution. | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 286 Registered: 9-2009 |
Speak up, and be a gentleman! Something along these lines? | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 380 Registered: 6-2005 |
Speak up, and be a gentleman! Something along these lines? No, wrong track... btw it may be very useful to understand the kind of "phrase" you are looking for. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4834 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the phrase an order? A command? A request? A question? An exclamation? | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 384 Registered: 6-2005 |
Is the phrase an order? A command? A request? A question? An exclamation? This, but there's something else much more relevant | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4836 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is it an exclamation of: shock? Terror? Surprise? Excitement? Horror? | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 385 Registered: 6-2005 |
Is it an exclamation of: shock? Terror? Surprise? Excitement? Horror? None of these | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4841 Registered: 4-2010 |
Of disappointment? Happiness? Sadness? | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 386 Registered: 6-2005 |
Of disappointment? This is closest. Still, the relevant part is not the feeling, but something totally different... Happiness? Sadness? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4843 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the object of the exclamation relevant? Is the exclamation directed at a thing? A person? At nothing/nobody in particular? | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 387 Registered: 6-2005 |
Is the object of the exclamation relevant? Yesish Is the exclamation directed at a thing? A person? This At nothing/nobody in particular? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4846 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the exclamation in anger? At oneself? | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 388 Registered: 6-2005 |
Is the exclamation in anger? Yes At oneself? No, at someone else | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4848 Registered: 4-2010 |
At a relative? Friend? Someone in power? Coworker? Subordinate? Boss? God? Ringing telephone? | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 1057 Registered: 5-2007 |
You = the bloke who always forgets to put his name on his puzzles? | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 389 Registered: 6-2005 |
At a relative? Friend? Someone in power? Coworker? Subordinate? Boss? God? None of these Ringing telephone? Ha ha, neither :-) You = the bloke who always forgets to put his name on his puzzles? Erm... very sorry... first time this happens to me... anyway no, my person is not at all relevant to the puzzle... | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4854 Registered: 4-2010 |
At a complete stranger? A celebrity? Is it a specific person we're looking for? A name? | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 390 Registered: 6-2005 |
At a complete stranger? Neither A celebrity? No, but... Is it a specific person we're looking for? It may definitely help! A name? Not in the "phrase", but again it may help | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4856 Registered: 4-2010 |
Someone famous? Someone alive? Dead? A sports figure? | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 391 Registered: 6-2005 |
Someone famous? Yope Someone alive? Yope again Dead? And yope again... A sports figure? No | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4859 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is this a real person? A fictional character? | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 392 Registered: 6-2005 |
Is this a real person? A fictional character? There you go, this one! | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4876 Registered: 4-2010 |
Does the character make the exclamation? Is the character the object of the exclamation? Is the character from a book? TV show? Movie? Video game? Magazine? Comic strip? Radio serial? | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 395 Registered: 6-2005 |
Does the character make the exclamation? Is the character the object of the exclamation? Well two characters are involved, one making the exclamation, the other being its object Is the character from a book? TV show? Movie? This Video game? Magazine? Comic strip? Radio serial? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4896 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the movie from [LTPF list of decades]? Is it an action film? Drama? Comedy? Romance? Romantic comedy? Sports? Mystery? Thriller? Horror? Silent? Western? Biography? | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 396 Registered: 6-2005 |
Is the movie from [LTPF list of decades]? 1980s Is it an action film? Drama? This... Comedy? Romance? Romantic comedy? Sports? Mystery? Thriller? ... and this... Horror? Silent? Western? Biography? ... and a little bit of this, too | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4957 Registered: 4-2010 |
The character making the explanation: H? A? M? The character who is the object of the exclamation: H? A? M? | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 397 Registered: 6-2005 |
The character making the explanation: H? A? M? The character who is the object of the exclamation: H? A? M? Both HAM | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4984 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was the film adapted into a TV show? Was it an adaptation of a TV show? A spinoff? | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 398 Registered: 6-2005 |
Was the film adapted into a TV show? Was it an adaptation of a TV show? A spinoff? To the best of my knowledge, there was a TV series in the '50s and another in the '90s with the same name, but as far as I know the film is much more famous | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 406 Registered: 6-2005 |
Ok, 3 days without a questions, that means you're losing interest in it, so let's recap and give a hint: RECAP: Your objective is to find a quote from a 1980s' drama-thriller movie, which, connected in a certain way, leads to "Chat and distinctive!" Until now we've found that the word "talk" is part of the solution, and more in detail it is part of the phrase connected to "chat". No progress has been made concerning "distinctive". HINT: we're talking about a very famous quote, at least in Italy, though the movie is american; nonetheless, I was quite surprised to find out that it is not part of the AFI list of 100 most famous film quotes. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5153 Registered: 4-2010 |
Ooh, and I watched that list! Sorry for the no-questions: I couldn't figure out the movie, and then forgot about the puzzle. My bad. Still can't figure out the movie though.... Is the quote said by Sylvester Stallone? | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 408 Registered: 6-2005 |
Is the quote said by Sylvester Stallone? No | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5159 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is it from The Untouchables? | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 409 Registered: 6-2005 |
Is it from The Untouchables? There you go! Now you'll immediately got the quote, but still as a bonus I think it would be challenging to discover the exact connection that I made... :-P PS Funnily enough, you found the movie at the same moment that I found the Stones song in your puzzle ;-) | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5184 Registered: 4-2010 |
So the quote would be "You're nothing but a lot of talk and a badge", correct? And the badge would be "distinctive" because it gives the wearer a position of authority, distinguishing him/her from the masses....something like that? | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 412 Registered: 6-2005 |
So the quote would be "You're nothing but a lot of talk and a badge", correct? Exactly so! Doesn't it deserve a place in that list btw? And the badge would be "distinctive" because it gives the wearer a position of authority, distinguishing him/her from the masses....something like that? Your reasoning is globally correct, but there is a more direct connection between the word "badge" and the word "distinctive". A very lateral one, I'd say... let's see if you find it before I give some other hint... | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 2916 Registered: 1-2007 |
Is that other famous line "We don't need no stinking badges" relevant? | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 414 Registered: 6-2005 |
Is that other famous line "We don't need no stinking badges" relevant? Erm... I don't know this one... which movies is it taken from? Anyway, no, not relevant to this puzzle | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 2917 Registered: 1-2007 |
Anything to do with awards? There is a badge of distinction which is a military medal i believe. The line "We don't need no stinking badges" has been adapted over the years. It first appeared in the movie "The Treasure of the Sierra Madre" although not quite as quoted here. It actually qoes "Badges? We ain't got no badges. We don't need no badges! I don't have to show you any stinkin' badges!" . The more commonly known version which I quoted appears in Mel Brook's classic western spoof "Blazing Saddles" . If you've not seen that movie then that should be high on your to do list | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 415 Registered: 6-2005 |
Anything to do with awards? There is a badge of distinction which is a military medal i believe. No, and on the wrong track... do not look for an unusual meaning of the word... the connection is more literal, and lateral, and literally lateral... :-P And thanks for the movie suggestion! | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5190 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is another quote involved in the connection? And I second Peter's movie recommendation. That actually made AFI's 100 Laughs list - at #6. | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 417 Registered: 6-2005 |
Is another quote involved in the connection? No, with a tiny tiny tiny -ish... let's say you're on a slightly righter track now... | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5194 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is any other part of The Untouchables relevant? Any other movie? | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 418 Registered: 6-2005 |
Is any other part of The Untouchables relevant? Any other movie? No. Getting farther now... focus on the quote... | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5197 Registered: 4-2010 |
Badge: cop's badge? Sheriff's badge? Any specific type of badge relevant? | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 419 Registered: 6-2005 |
Badge: cop's badge? Sheriff's badge? Any specific type of badge relevant? The word "badge" does not mean nothing else than what it is used for in the movie quote. And the same thing is valid for the rest of the used words. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5201 Registered: 4-2010 |
Does the badge make an important distinction in the movie? | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 421 Registered: 6-2005 |
Does the badge make an important distinction in the movie? No, wrong track... Let's try another HINT: on LPTF, probably only myself and maybe one other particular member would have seen this connection... | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5255 Registered: 4-2010 |
Relevant that you're Italian? Is the Italian word for "badge" relevant? For "distinctive"? | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 424 Registered: 6-2005 |
Relevant that you're Italian? YES!!! Is the Italian word for "badge" relevant? Exactly! For "distinctive"? So not this, but still I think you've worked it out enough to declare the ***************** SPOILER ***************** In the Italian version of The Untouchables the famous quote "You're nothing but a lot of talk and a badge!" has been translated as "Sei solo chiacchiere e distintivo!"; now, "chiacchiere" is simply translated as "chat", but "distintivo" may both mean "badge" if it's used as a noun and "distinctive" if used as an adjective. While watching that movie again last week I was wondering how it would sound in english to "literally" translate the two words, of course with the objective of making a puzzle out of it :-) Good job everybody, hope you enjoyed it, and special mention to Balin for sticking with this till the end! | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5265 Registered: 4-2010 |
Great puzzle! I've actually never seen The Untouchables - had to Google "80s drama thriller" and hunt for a while, and that one stood out, so I made that my guess. I assume you'd recommend it? | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 428 Registered: 6-2005 |
Well even just De Niro starring Al Capone is worth the movie... then if you consider Sean Connery, Kevin Costner and Andy Garcia (I guess it was the first major roles for the two latter), well... yes, I recommend it :-) |
