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He was not welcome at first but he was applauded afterwards
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He 1 = He 2? HAM? Did he give a speech?
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He 1 = He 2? Yes HAM? Yes Did he give a speech? No
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Is religion relevant? Politics? Was he the leader of a group or faction? Was not welcome - in a country? A town? By a certain group?
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Is religion relevant? Politics? Was he the leader of a group or faction? Was not welcome - in a country? A town? By a certain group? Yope to this, no to rest
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Was not welcome - by a certain person? Is war relevant? Is this a true story? Did it take place in [LTPF list of centuries]? On [LTPF list of continents]?
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Was not welcome - by a certain person? No Is war relevant? Yes Is this a true story? Yes Did it take place in [LTPF list of centuries]? 20th On [LTPF list of continents]? Europe
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Did he do something in order to be applauded? Something good? great? Heroic? Unexpected? Did he receive literal applause? From the same people that didn't welcome him? Is this a true story? Fiction? FYOI?
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Did he do something in order to be applauded? Yes Something good? great? Heroic? This is closest, though all the others were impliedUnexpected? Did he receive literal applause? No From the same people that didn't welcome him? Yesish to Yope Is this a true story? This one Fiction? FYOI?
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Did he save the people? Protect them? From an enemy?
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Did he save the people? Protect them? From an enemy? No to all. Could be also a yope, but that might mislead severely
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Is this in wartime? Are "they" from the same country? Is he from the same country as "they" are?
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Is this in wartime? Are "they" from the same country? Is he from the same country as "they" are? Yes to all
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Was he not welcome because...he was accused of being a traitor? He did not live in *country*? He had left *country*?
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Was he not welcome because...he was accused of being a traitor? He did not live in *country*? He had left *country*? No to all
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LTPF list of countries? LTPF list of decades?
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LTPF list of countries? Italy LTPF list of decades? 1910s
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Was he a politician? A military person? A diplomat? Was Italy at war?
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Was he a politician? No A military person?Yope A diplomat?No Was Italy at war?Yes
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Is this during WWI? Was he accused of starting the war? Of escalating it? Of not stopping it?
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Is this during WWI? Yes Was he accused of starting the war? Of escalating it? Of not stopping it? No to rest and FA
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Was he accused of anything? Was he unwelcome because of something he had said? Or done? Or not done? Did he have a bad reputation?
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Was he accused of anything? No, that was the FA Was he unwelcome because of something he had said? No Or done? Yope Or not done? Did he have a bad reputation? No to the rest
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Was he unwelcome because of something he was thought to have done? Something that people believed he was going to do? Something that he was going to do? That they believed he was doing? That he was doing?
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Was he unwelcome because of something he was thought to have done? Something that people believed he was going to do? Something that he was going to do? That they believed he was doing? That he was doing? Only for something he has done ... ish
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The "something he has done...ish": is it related to the war? To the country? Is it something he ordered others to do? Taught others to do?
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The "something he has done...ish": is it related to the war? To the country? Is it something he ordered others to do? Taught others to do? No to all
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Did the people know he had "done-ish" the thing?
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Was it something he'd said?
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Did the people know he had "done-ish" the thing? Yes, for sure
Was it something he'd said? No
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Was it something he had "done-ish" to someone? To something?

Could you please recap?
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Was it something he had "done-ish" to someone? Yes To something? No

Could you please recap? Sure:

This is WW1. Our hero -- let's give him a name, Roberto -- was not welcome at first (but not accused of anything, really), but in the end he was acclaimed. The reason for which he was not welcome was because of something he yesishly did, to someone. Look out for FA here.

Our Roberto raised to fame -- a street in Rome bears his name and he is a known figure. He wasn't in the military.

Now then....
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Was Roberto married? Relevant? Does what he "did" involve family relationships?
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Was Roberto married? I don't know Relevant? No Does what he "did" involve family relationships? No
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Did he destroy something? Build something? Fix something? Damage something?
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Did he destroy something? Build something? Fix something? This was his intention, very good question Damage something? No to the others
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Was he not welcome because he tried to fix "it"? Is "it" a building? Statue? City? Monument?
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Was he not welcome because he tried to fix "it"? In a sense yes, but this might be misleading. Is "it" a building? Statue? City? Monument? None of these.
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Is "it" a physical, tangible object?
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Is "it" a physical, tangible object? Yes it is
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Is the object larger than a building? A room? A bookshelf? A microwave? A baseball? A bread crumb?
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Is the object larger than a building? Depending on the type of building, it could be, though normally buildings are larger A room? Yes to this and to the rest A bookshelf? A microwave? A baseball? A bread crumb?
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Is it a statue? A fountain?
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Is it a statue? A fountain? No statues or fountains in this puzzle
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Is the object outside? Inside?
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Is the object outside? I think this one is true Inside?
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Is it made of [LTPF list of materials]?
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Is it made of [LTPF list of materials]? Mostly metal.
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Metal...a fence? Some other form of protection?
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Metal...a fence? Some other form of protection? No to both
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Does he fix a replica of something?
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Does he fix a replica of something? No
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Is it plumbing of some sort? Is it something that belongs to the emperor?
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Is it plumbing of some sort? No Is it something that belongs to the emperor? What emperor? No emperors are involved in this puzzle
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was he an engineer? Is the metal thing a tower of some sort? can it be called a: structure? Building? Vehicle? Weapon? Is electricity involved? Relevant how the object got broken?
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was he an engineer? I don't think so. More like a mechanic I guess Is the metal thing a tower of some sort? No can it be called a: structure? Building? Vehicle? This one, none of the others Weapon? Is electricity involved? No Relevant how the object got broken? Not at all and the object is not broken, the 'fixing' was used for lack of a better word. I think maintenance is more appropriate. The object in itself is not very relevant, but what happened during the maintenance operation is

Good round of questions
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Was it a water vehicle? Land vehicle? Aircraft? Was he unwelcome before he started the maintenance? Was he unwelcome because he wanted to do maintenance? Did he become a hero while carrying out the maintenance? Enemy operations relevant? Did he discover something? Such as sabotage? Or an attack?
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Was it a military vehicle?
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Was it a water vehicle? No Land vehicle? Yes Aircraft? So not this Was he unwelcome before he started the maintenance? No Was he unwelcome because he wanted to do maintenance? No, it was his job to do it Did he become a hero while carrying out the maintenance? No and a major FA lurking Enemy operations relevant? No Did he discover something? No Such as sabotage? Or an attack? No and the same FA. Once this FA is cleared, we'll be approaching the finale, I guess

Was it a military vehicle? No
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Was it a car? Wagon? Was the vehicle man-powered? Animal-powered? Gas-powered? Did it have an engine?
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Was it a car? Wagon? This is closest. Actually it was a locomotive Was the vehicle man-powered? Animal-powered? Gas-powered? Did it have an engine? Certainly
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Did the locomotive have special significance to the townspeople?
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Did the locomotive have special significance to the townspeople? No
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Was the locomotive supposed to be broken? Immovable?
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Was the locomotive supposed to be broken? No, and it wasn't. Roberto carried some maintenance activities on it Immovable? No

Hint: the locomotive is not relevant anymore. What happened during one of his maintenance activities -- which were his job -- is relevant and explains why he wasn't welcome
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What happened - did it involve someone else? More than one? Something else? More than one? Did he harm someone? Kill someone? Accidentally?
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Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2010 - 8:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

What happened - did it involve someone else? No More than one? Something else? Other than what? More than one? Ditto Did he harm someone? YES! Kill someone? No Accidentally? Indeed.

Very good questions
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Was the person injured H? A? M? Were they injured by blunt force? Sharp force? Electric shock?
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Was the person injured H? A? M? HAM, yes Were they injured by blunt force? This one I guess Sharp force? This is also a possibility Electric shock? No
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Were they struck with something? With a tool? With the locomotive?
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Were they struck with something? Who are "they"? I should've asked the same above. Only one person was injured With a tool? No With the locomotive? Technically, yes
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Whoops - I meant "was he," not "were they." I don't know what I was thinking about - my bad.

Did the injured person fall on the locomotive? Was he shoved into it? Was he run over by it?
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Whoops - I meant "was he," not "were they." I don't know what I was thinking about - my bad. No problem, we solved it

Did the injured person fall on the locomotive? Was he shoved into it? Was he run over by it? I don't know the exact details and these are irrelevant. He was caught by some gear. Now how this event led to Roberto not being welcome?

This is the only part remaining to solve. We know that he was later acclaimed because he became a war hero.
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Was Roberto supposed to be protecting the guy? Was there supposed to be a safety measure preventing this from happening? Was the locomotive running when Roberto was working on it? Was it supposed to be?
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Was Roberto supposed to be protecting the guy? Serious FA Was there supposed to be a safety measure preventing this from happening? I don't know, irr Was the locomotive running when Roberto was working on it? Yes but the details of the accident are largely irrelevant Was it supposed to be? Yes.
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Did the injured guy do something unsafe? Was Roberto supposed to be in the place of the injured guy? So Roberto should have been injured instead?
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Did the injured guy do something unsafe? Possibly, but irr Was Roberto supposed to be in the place of the injured guy? FA So Roberto should have been injured instead? FA
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Was Roberto himself the injured guy?
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Was Roberto himself the injured guy? Exactly! Which also clears the FA... Good job!
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So Roberto was not welcome because he'd injured himself while working on the locomotive? Was the manner of injury stupid? Horrific?
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So Roberto was not welcome because he'd injured himself while working on the locomotive? Yesish Was the manner of injury stupid? Horrific? No to both. The manner in which he managed to get injured is not relevant
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Was he not welcome because of where he'd injured himself? Relevant where he injured himself?
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A short recap before going to sleep:

Roberto is an Italian hero of WW1 although he was not in the military, technically speaking. He was not welcome at first, because of an accident in which he injured himself, while doing his job as some sort of a mechanic of locomotives. He was later acclaimed for his heroic stance during the war. The story is true and our Roberto's real name will be revealed in the $poiler.

Remaining to solve: why was he not welcome and what has this to do with the accident?
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Was he not welcome because of where he'd injured himself? Where as in what part of the body? This is relevant, to some extent, though conceivably other scenarios could be equally likely Relevant where he injured himself?
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Was he supposed to be working at the time he injured himself?
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Was he supposed to be working at the time he injured himself? Irr
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Did he injure his head? Arm? Hand? Torso? Foot? Leg?
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Did he injure his head? Arm? Hand? Torso? Foot? Leg? This
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Bruise his leg? Break his leg? Fracture the bone? Did he sprain his ankle? Twist his ankle? Dislocate his knee or hip?
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Bruise his leg? Break his leg? Fracture the bone? Did he sprain his ankle? Twist his ankle? Dislocate his knee or hip? He lost it completely
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Was he unwelcome because he was a cripple? Because he was a cripple, but not crippled by war?
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Lost his leg completely? Awww...ick, that must have really hurt. :-(
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Was he unwelcome because he was a cripple? Indeed. But why and by whom? Because he was a cripple, but not crippled by war? Not this
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Lost his leg completely? Awww...ick, that must have really hurt. :-( Actually, to be correct, he bruised it beyond repair and the leg had to be amputated from the hip
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Relevant who amputated his leg? Were those who did not welcome him also crippled?
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Relevant who amputated his leg? Were those who did not welcome him also crippled? No to both
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was he unwelcome because he couldn't do something? such as go to war? Or because how he looked? Is the military relevant to unwelcoming him? Or the church? Or a politician? Or the general population? Or someone involved in the incident where he lost his leg? were all cripples unwelcome? All cripples without a leg?
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Is it fair to say that the reason for his frosty welcome is trivial, i.e. the military didn't see how a one-legged soldier could serve his country?

And would it be more helpful to focus on how his one-leggedness helped him to become a hero?

Did he have a prosthesis? Is this relevant?

Did he conceal a weapon in his false leg, and use it to carry out a strategic ambush?

Or did he act as some sort of decoy or distraction?
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was he unwelcome because he couldn't do something? such as go to war? YES!, or least they thought he couldn't Or because how he looked? No Is the military relevant to unwelcoming him? YES! Or the church? Or a politician? Or the general population? Or someone involved in the incident where he lost his leg? were all cripples unwelcome? All cripples without a leg?

It's time for the

******* SPOILER *******

Our Roberto was in fact Enrico Toti, who lost his leg in 1908 while working for the Italian railways. Subsequently he become an accomplished cyclist, riding his bycicle with only one leg throughout Europe up to Lapland and in Egypt.

With the advent of WW1 Toti thrice petitioned for enrollment into the military but was rejected because of his injury. Nonetheless, he took his bicycle and managed to get to the battlefield and participated in combat operation. Caught by the military police, he was arrested and sent back home, only for him to find his way back to the battlefield. He died at Monfalcone in 1916, legendarily hurling his clutch at the enemy.

He was posthumously awarded the Gold Medal of Military Valor (Italy's highest award for valour), one of the few civilians to be bestowed by this honour. Many streets (including one in Rome), two Italian navy submarines and one branch of the Railway police have been named after him.

Thanks to all for playing, especially Balin and Galfisk who also provided the final informations.

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