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Biograd (Biograd)
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Another "theory" puzzle, this time not from that radio program:

My dad once told me something he called the Fan Curse. What was it?
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The more a team is supported, the likelier it is to lose? My high school football team was like that.
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The more a team is supported, the likelier it is to lose?No My high school football team was like that. I guess they couldn't handle the attention.
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"Fan" as in "sports fan"? As in "device for creating a current of air"? Some other meaning?
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Is a particular sport relevant?
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How when a TV network says something like "Texas has dominated the Yankees this season" it makes the opposite happen?

And yes, Texas has been dominating the Yankees this season. And if you've read my "All Hail Philly" post you'll know why I'm saying this.
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My former high school football team, the Lions, for as long as I can remember, has never lost the Thanksgiving game against their rivals, the Bulldogs, though the Bulldogs' school bears the name of our city and probably has more fans than my school does. Still, once a Lioness, always a Lioness, I say.
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Kaylee, did you read my last post? Because if so, you basically cursed your team. Now they're losing.
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No they're not! *glares at post* They're not, you'll see. *pokes Gregory* =P
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"Fan" as in "sports fan"?NO As in "device for creating a current of air"?Yes Some other meaning?

So all other questions thus far are irrelevant, even though they seem to have generated quite a discussion. The title about the ref was just a misleading example of what I thought a "fan curse" could be. It's about as unrelated to the one in this puzzle as you can imagine.
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Is the curse derived from using a fan? From owing one? Any fan will do, or a specific one? Or a specific type of fans? Is it related to its shape? To the fact that it rotates? To the fact that it's producing a current of air?
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Is the curse derived from using a fan?Yes From owing one?Only in that one must own a fan to use one Any fan will do, or a specific one?Not a specific one Or a specific type of fans?Not type as much as purpose Is it related to its shape? To the fact that it rotates? To the fact that it's producing a current of air?Only this one
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Cool air? Hot air? Just air, any temperature?
Relevant that it comes from a fan, and not a natural breeze?
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Cool air?This Hot air? Just air, any temperature?
Relevant that it comes from a fan, and not a natural breeze?Yes
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That the air is never cool enough? That it is freezing cold when you're close to the fan, but not cold at all when far away?
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That the air is never cool enough?No That it is freezing cold when you're close to the fan, but not cold at all when far away?No, but this is definitely true.
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Is the specific temperature/level of "coolness" relevant? That the air is either too cold or too warm, but never perfect?
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Is the specific temperature/level of "coolness" relevant?No That the air is either too cold or too warm, but never perfect?The literal answer is no, but in a very vague way this is kind of OTRT.
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Is the general level of "cool" relevant? That the air cools everything else except you?
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Is the general level of "cool" relevant?Yope (i.e, probably not in the way you're imagining) That the air cools everything else except you?No
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The nicer-looking/more expensive the fan, the worse it works?
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Anything to do with the Korean superstition that you should never run a fan in a closed room?
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The nicer-looking/more expensive the fan, the worse it works?No

Anything to do with the Korean superstition that you should never run a fan in a closed room?No, I have never heard of that one.
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"Cool" = temperature? How awesome the fan is? Number of settings on the fan relevant?
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"Cool" = temperature?Yes How awesome the fan is?No Number of settings on the fan relevant?No

Hint: The extent to which this "law" is true is most certainly geographically dependent. In fact, as I would precisely word it, there are places in the world where it would essentially never hold. A slightly broader definition would extend that considerably, but it still would be much truer in some locations than others.
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The geographical region: does it hold in warmer climates? in cooler climates? Is it a geographical feature relevant? (in the mountains? in the plains? on the sea shore? on water?) Are seasons relevant?
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If you're using a fan in hot weather, you need it more but the air coming out of it is less cool than if you were using a fan in cold weather. Relevant?
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The geographical region: does it hold in warmer climates? in cooler climates?Either. The weather when the fan is being used is hot, but this need not be typical. Is it a geographical feature relevant? (in the mountains? in the plains? on the sea shore? on water?) It's most likely to happen along the coast. Are seasons relevant? Only in that it's more likely to happen in some seasons than others.

If you're using a fan in hot weather, you need it more but the air coming out of it is less cool than if you were using a fan in cold weather. Relevant?No, it's not this.

But you are both OTRT in that weather patterns are very relevant.
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Does the fan blow in something from the outside that would not be wanted inside?
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Does the fan blow in something from the outside that would not be wanted inside? No
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Is it relevant exactly what the weather is when the fan is being used? Raining?
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Is it relevant exactly what the weather is when the fan is being used?Not when the fan is being used, but OTRT Raining?Rain is not involved in my dad's version, but someone could observe a similar thing involving rain.
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Is the theory about something happening when the fan is not in use?
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Is the theory about something happening when the fan is not in use?Technically, yesish. The other thing may happen while the fan is still being used, or after it is turned off.

Hint: Like the bathtub puzzle, this "theory" relates two things that really shouldn't be related. However, in this case there is actually a logical reason why they may appear connected, even though the theory gets the causality wrong.
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The fan stops working/will not work on the hottest days?
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The fan stops working/will not work on the hottest days?No
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The fan is cooler when you aren't in the house than when you are?
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The fan is cooler when you aren't in the house than when you are?No. Remember weather patterns are a key part of this.
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The moment the fan has cooled down the room enough, the weather will turn cold?
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The moment the fan has cooled down the room enough, the weather will turn cold?I'll say this is close enough.

The Fan Curse states that if a fan is turned on, the fog will come in. In areas where there rarely is fog, i.e. far inland, one could replace it with clouds or rain.

There is some truth to this, as fans are most necessary when there is still, hot air around. But continued heating of such air will cause it to rise, creating a low pressure region that draws fog or clouds inward.
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Never heard that one before - good one!

Just don't forget the S-word....
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The name is specific to my dad, but probably others have thought of the concept before.

Oh, and

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