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Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
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Posted on Sunday, October 24, 2010 - 4:31 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Until I made my last puzzle (House of the Rising Sun http://www.lateralpuzzles.com/discus/messages/14243/20986.html?1287890952) I had a scrund about a battle which was caused by a popular song.
Explain this. (Note: the other puzzle, including the title, will help you in this. So look at it)
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Posted on Sunday, October 24, 2010 - 6:54 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

First off, is this about the song with the same name as the title of that puzzle?

Provided that's it:
Does this have anything to do with different versions of the song? Did you think that The Animals were the first to sing it? Is any hypothetical location of the "house" relevant?

I know that the versions differ in whether the House was a casino or a brothel, and there are no less than about 10 rumored locations for the place.
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Oh, forget that. I didn't see the word "battle", as I was too busy thinking of the various supposed references involving that song.

So is this a real historical battle? a battle from a piece of literature (e.g., epic poetry or even the Bible)?

If it was a real battle, on what continent was it fought (LTPF list, which is short enough I consider it OK to refer to even this early in the puzzle)?
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Posted on Sunday, October 24, 2010 - 5:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

First off, is this about the song with the same name as the title of that puzzle? No, but that song is laterally relevant.

Provided that's it it's not, but... :
Does this have anything to do with different versions of the song? Did you think that The Animals were the first to sing it? Is any hypothetical location of the "house" relevant? Yes! This is how it is relevant. But see below.

I know that the versions differ in whether the House was a casino or a brothel, and there are no less than about 10 rumored locations for the place. It's mentioned in the lyrics.... Beyond that part, it doesn't really matter specifics.
Oh, forget that. I didn't see the word "battle", as I was too busy thinking of the various supposed references involving that song. Well one part of the song is relevant laterally, as mentioned above.

So is this a real historical battle? this one a battle from a piece of literature (e.g., epic poetry or even the Bible)?

If it was a real battle, on what continent was it fought (LTPF list, which is short enough I consider it OK to refer to even this early in the puzzle)? North America
Hint: The "House of the Rising Sun" puzzle is relevant in more than just title.
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Posted on Sunday, October 24, 2010 - 5:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Clarification: My scrund was about the battle, not the song, but the song and the puzzle with that as the title are both laterally relevant.
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Posted on Sunday, October 24, 2010 - 6:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Anything to do with the Battle of Fort McHenry and the Star Spangled Banner?
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Posted on Sunday, October 24, 2010 - 6:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the War of 1812 relevant?
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Is it just that the house is in New Orleans? Is the other song (the scrund song) set in New Orleans? Or did you think that it was? It's not the Battle Hymn of the Republic, is it? Is it a song about fires?
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Posted on Sunday, October 24, 2010 - 9:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Anything to do with the Battle of Fort McHenry and the Star Spangled Banner? No
Is the War of 1812 relevant? Yes
Is it just that the house is in New Orleans? Yes Is the other song (the scrund song) set in New Orleans? Yes Or did you think that it was? Well it is.... It's not the Battle Hymn of the Republic, is it? Is it a song about fires? None of these
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Posted on Sunday, October 24, 2010 - 11:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Johnny Horton's Battle of New Orleans?
Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
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Posted on Sunday, October 24, 2010 - 11:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Johnny Horton's Battle of New Orleans? presicely! Now what scrund did that give me about the Battle?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Monday, October 25, 2010 - 1:15 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the scrund that the battle ended the war? Occurred during the war? When really the battle actually occurred after the war's end?
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Andrew Jackson relevant? LaFitte? Any other specific person? Battle tactics? Alligators?
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Posted on Monday, October 25, 2010 - 4:25 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the scrund that the battle ended the war? Occurred during the war? When really the battle actually occurred after the war's end? No

Andrew Jackson relevant? Only vaguely LaFitte? Any other specific person? Battle tactics? Alligators? no to these
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Posted on Monday, October 25, 2010 - 1:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

That the battle occurred in 1814? When it was in 1815?
Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
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Posted on Monday, October 25, 2010 - 2:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

That the battle occurred in 1814? When it was in 1815? Precisely. But how did the song cause that?
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Does the song use the lyrics "in 1814" or something like that?
Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
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Posted on Monday, October 25, 2010 - 4:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does the song use the lyrics "in 1814" or something like that? Bingo! WInner!

****SPOILER***
The Song opens with the lyrics "In 1814 we took a little trip/Along with Colonel Jackson down the Mighty Mississip'" while this could be perceived as historically accurate since they did indeed trek to New Orelans in late December 1814, this caused me to think the Battle of NO was in 1814, when in fact it was early January 1815. Good job everyone.

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