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Nimue (Nimue)
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Posted on Wednesday, December 08, 2010 - 7:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Coranell bought a book she didn't want. Then she put it in a drawer, & never opened it. No one pressured her to buy the book, & she did not know the author, How come?
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True story?
Coranell = H/A?
LTPF list of continents & centuries?
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could she have achieved the same effect by buyig the book then throwing it away? giving it away?

does it need to be a book for the puzzle to work? does it need to be something readable?

did something happen after buying the book that made her put it in a drawer? wehn she bought it did she intend to put it in a drawer? is it necessary for the puzzle that she buy it? that she keep it? is she hiding it? is she intending anyone else to read it? intending to read it herself?

did she buy the book to gain a benefit? for herself? for someone else? did she buy it to avoid a disbenefit? to herself? to someone else?

were her actions altruistic? self interested? criminal? immoral? rational? ws there a misunderstanding? a trick involved?

relevant what book? fiction? non fiction? with pictures?

was she replacing a book she had damaged? was she making some kind of statement by doing this? sending some kind of message?

is her job relevant? her age? her appearance? her race? her politics? her hobbies? her romatic relationships?

did anyone know she bought the book? relevant? did anyone know she put it in a drawer? relevant?
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Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
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True story?
Coranell = H yes/A? no
LTPF list of continents & centuries?20th century or later & all continents are possible, except probably Antarctica
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could she have achieved the same effect by buying the book then throwing it away? no giving it away? no

does it need to be a book for the puzzle to work? no does it need to be something readable? no

did something happen after buying the book that made her put it in a drawer? no wehn she bought it did she intend to put it in a drawer? yes is it necessary for the puzzle that she buy it? yesthat she keep it? yesis she hiding it? yes is she intending anyone else to read it? noishintending to read it herself? no

did she buy the book to gain a benefit? yope for herself? yes for someone else? no did she buy it to avoid a disbenefit? no to herself? to someone else?

were her actions altruistic? no self interested? yes criminal? no immoral? opinions will vary on this, but I think not or not veryrational? yes ws there a misunderstanding? no a trick involved? yesish

relevant what book? yes fiction?yes non fiction? no with pictures? yes

was she replacing a book she had damaged? no was she making some kind of statement by doing this? nosending some kind of message? no

is her job relevant? see next answerher age? yes--she's between approximately 6 & 10her appearance? noher race? no her politics? no her hobbies? her romatic relationships? no

did anyone know she bought the book? possiblyrelevant? yesishdid anyone know she put it in a drawer? possibly relevant? yesish
Biograd (Biograd)
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Posted on Wednesday, December 08, 2010 - 8:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does she intend to use it as a time capsule of some kind (i.e., a record of an event in the present that will hopefully be discovered long in the future)?
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Oh, I just realized that there was already a "no" to "sending some kind of message", so I guess the thing about the time capsule is wrong...

Is the book banned? Is there any other reason why the book may be hard to get in the future? Does she have some superstitious/fairy tale belief that something will happen if she keeps a book in her drawer?
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Is it a book her parents don't want her reading (for example, if they're very religious)?

If so, one of the Harry Potter series?
The Hobbit or The Lord of the Rings?
His Dark Materials trilogy?
Twilight or one of its sequels?
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Does she intend to use it as a time capsule of some kind (i.e., a record of an event in the present that will hopefully be discovered long in the future)? no
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Oh, I just realized that there was already a "no" to "sending some kind of message", so I guess the thing about the time capsule is wrong...

Is the book banned?only by her parents (see below) Is there any other reason why the book may be hard to get in the future? noDoes she have some superstitious/fairy tale belief that something will happen if she keeps a book in her drawer? no
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Is it a book her parents don't want her reading yes (for example, if they're very religious)? that's not why

If so, one of the Harry Potter series? no
The Hobbit or The Lord of the Rings? no
His Dark Materials trilogy? no
Twilight or one of its sequels? no
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Does she simply do it to spite them? Or is there some reason she actually wants the book? Is there something else she keeps in the same drawer that she doesn't want her parents to see (like a diary) and figures that if they look in her drawer, they will likely either comment on the book or remove it?
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Does she want the book to be found? Does she intend to later read it? Or give it to someone?
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is her ultimate intention to be able to read a book her parents don't want her to? is there another book relevant to this puzzle?

is her ultimate intention to fool her parents? to make them give her something? buy something for her? to get them to allow her to do something?

is there another object relevant to this puzzle? something she wants to hide from her parents?
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Does she simply do it to spite them? no Or is there some reason she actually wants the book? noishIs there something else she keeps in the same drawer that she doesn't want her parents to see (like a diary)possibly and figures that if they look in her drawer, they will likely either comment on the book yesor remove it in the actual case, no, but a yes answer would also work for this puzzle?
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Does she want the book to be found? no Does she intend to later read it? no Or give it to someone? no
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is her ultimate intention to be able to read a book her parents don't want her to? no is there another book relevant to this puzzle? no

is her ultimate intention to fool her parents? no to make them give her something? nobuy something for her? noto get them to allow her to do something? no

is there another object relevant to this puzzle? no something she wants to hide from her parents? no
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Is she hiding something in the book?

Relevant where she bought the book? The manner of payment?

Does Coranell want to upset her parents?

Did she put it in her own drawer? Someone else's? So her parents would get mad at that person, thinking he or she had bought the book, not Coranell? Maybe an annoying sibling?
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Does the girl intend to touch the draw.
Does the girl intend or already has modefied the book (e.g. writen in it)
Is the book ment not to be modified.
Does the girl intend to act as if she never baught the book (e.g. not look at it, open it etc.)
Is the book exactly the same as when she baught it?
Is it a normal book for a little girl to have\want?
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Is she hiding something in the book? no

Relevant where she bought the book? no The manner of payment? no

Does Coranell want to upset her parents? no

Did she put it in her own drawer? yes Someone else's? no So her parents would get mad at that person, thinking he or she had bought the book, not Coranell? no Maybe an annoying sibling? no
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Does the girl intend to touch the draw.yes}
Does the girl intend or already has modefied the book (e.g. writen in it) no
Is the book ment not to be modified. no
Does the girl intend to act as if she never baught the book (e.g. not look at it, open it etc.) no
Is the book exactly the same as when she baught it? yes
Is it a normal book for a little girl to have\want? yes
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Is the reason here perants baned it because of how she baught it?
Is the reason here perants baned it because of were she baught it?
Is the reason here perants baned it because of who she baught it with?
Is the reason here perants baned it because of she is in trouble?
Is the reason here perants baned it because of why she baught it with?

Is the reason here perants baned it because of when she baught it with?
Is the reason here perants baned it because of anything to do with her bying it with?
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so is the book a kind of decoy? something she uses to distract her parents from noticing something else?
has she done something her parents wouldn't like (besides buying the book)? is she behaving suspiciously? and hopes to give a reason for this by buying and hiding the book?
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Is the book a fairy tale?

Are Coranell's parents mean to her? Abusive?
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so is the book a kind of decoy? nosomething she uses to distract her parents from noticing something else? no
has she done something her parents wouldn't like (besides buying the book)? irrelis she behaving suspiciously? noand hopes to give a reason for this by buying and hiding the book? no
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Is the book a fairy tale? no

Are Coranell's parents mean to her? Absolutely not!! (I was Coranell)Abusive? ditto
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Would it help to figure out the specific book?
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Could the puzzle work with some other book, not banned by her parents? With another object that is banned? With another object not banned? Are physical characteristics (height, weight etc) of the book relevant?
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Would it help to figure out the specific book? no
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Could the puzzle work with some other book, not banned by her parents? no With another object that is banned? yes With another object not banned? no Are physical characteristics (height, weight etc) of the book relevant? just what is necessary for it to fit in the drawer
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Does she want to know if the parents ever open the drawer? Because if they ever do, they will certainly give themselves away by commenting on the book? Does she want to know if/when her parents snoop through her stuff?
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Does she want to know if the parents ever open the drawer? yesBecause if they ever do, they will certainly give themselves away by commenting on the book? or so she assumesDoes she want to know if/when her parents snoop through her stuff? yes

********** SPOILER *******************
I'm Coranell, and although my parents were very liberal in general, they had a "thing" about comic books & a rule against my buying them with my allowance. This wasn't an easy rule to enforce, since another family rule was that no one but me was allowed to look in my top dresser drawer, where I kept secret things. So naturally, I bought a comic book & stored it there to see whether my parents snooped. Years later, when I told them about this, they were horrified."How could you ever have thought we would open your private drawer?" Please see my new puzzle you know where.
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Clever!

I'm wondering, though, what was the reason behind the rule against comic books. And do you mean comic books as in superheroes or as in comic strips?
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My parents thought comic books were on a low intellectual level, which they were, but so what? And they had no objection to other nonintellectual things, such as comic strips or dolls (of which I had ever 40).
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I thought I already guessed the answer, and you said yesish to it, but then somehow the guesses got "cold" again, so I assumed I had been OTRT.

But anyway, your parents' ban does sound like it was rather stupid.
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Sorry, I meant "so I thought I had been OTWT".
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Yes, I thought the ban was pretty dumb, too. But I never had a curfew, nor did my parents object when I stopped being Jewish at age 12. So overall, I think I did very well in the parent department.

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