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Posted on Friday, December 10, 2010 - 2:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

There. Or better yet, T. Even would work.
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Is T. Even a real persone?
Is the there as in "there is a spider in my mouth"
or "There parents eat spider"
or "There the spider i was looking for"
Is the work as in "at my work i eat spiders"
or "I am working towards a colection of half eaten spiders"
or "This spider eating website won't work"
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is t.evens fat.
Is T.evens tacking weight los pills?
Is anyone taking weight loss pills?
Did t. evens tack to many pills.
Did anyone take too many pills?
Is t. evens the only relevent person?
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Is T. Even a real persone? No, FA
Is the there as in "there is a spider in my mouth" Yes, that is the meaning of that "there."
or "There parents eat spider" No
or "There the spider i was looking for" No
Is the work as in "at my work i eat spiders" No
or "I am working towards a colection of half eaten spiders" No
or "This spider eating website won't work" No

is t.evens fat. No
Is T.evens tacking weight los pills? No
Is anyone taking weight loss pills? No...
Did t. evens tack to many pills. No
Did anyone take too many pills? No
Is t. evens the only relevent person? No - T. Even is not a person at all. The puzzle statement is actually three sentences.
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Rewriting puzzle statement, using white underscores as spaces:

There.
Or_better_yet,_T.
Even__would_work.
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Is the title of the puzzle relevent?
Is T an abriavation?
Is T a person?
How Bought a hint?
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Is the title of the puzzle relevent? Absolutely
Is T an abriavation? Yope
Is T a person? No
How Bought a hint? Sure - the important part of the title is "weight-loss."
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Is the title of the puzzle relevent?
Is T an abriavation?
Is T a person?
How Bought a hint?
Balin (Balin)
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Is the title of the puzzle relevent?
Is T an abriavation?
Is T a person?
How Bought a hint? See my previous post
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when you say wieght loss do you mean for fat people?
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Hmm...to get "T" out of "There", you lose "here." Relevant?
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Do you nead here?
Or there?
or T?
Is the T bit got something to do with people looking like a T?
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when you say wieght loss do you mean for fat people? No

Hmm...to get "T" out of "There", you lose "here." Relevant? Yope

Do you nead here?
Or there?
or T? I don't understand.
Is the T bit got something to do with people looking like a T? No
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oh you mean weight loss on words? i.e. shortening them?
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oh you mean weight loss on words? i.e. shortening them? Noish
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are you shortening there?
to t?
and eventualy nothing (betwean even and would)?
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are you shortening there?
to t?
and eventualy nothing (betwean even and would)? Yes to all - still haven't pegged the "weight-loss" part, though.
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the word "thee" is taking too many weight loss pills?
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the word "there" is taking too many weight loss pills?
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the word "there" is taking too many weight loss pills? Noish/Yope
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Does the "weight-loss" refer to a reduction in something?
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Are we trying to find a particular group of words (sentence, phrase, lyrics, etc.)in this puzzle, which contains the word "There"?
And that the group of words would be improved somehow by the "There" being replaced by a "T"?
And not be any worse if the "There" was omitted?

Is the T capitalised for any reason?

Is a unit of weight measurement, or an abbreviation of one, relevant to this?

Is a specific word related to weight loss relevant here? ("thin" springs to mind)
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Does the "weight-loss" refer to a reduction in something? Noish/Yope

Are we trying to find a particular group of words (sentence, phrase, lyrics, etc.)in this puzzle, which contains the word "There"? Yope
And that the group of words would be improved somehow by the "There" being replaced by a "T"? Yope
And not be any worse if the "There" was omitted? Yope

Is the T capitalised for any reason? Yes

Is a unit of weight measurement, or an abbreviation of one, relevant to this? No

Is a specific word related to weight loss relevant here? Yes (tiny -ish) ("thin" springs to mind) But not this

HUMOROURS HINT: If you take too many weight-loss pills, you become entirely...
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invisible?
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invisible? No...
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Intangible?
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Withered? Ethereal? (which have "there" in them)
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Weightless?
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Intangible? Withered? Ethereal? (which have "there" in them) None of these, but...

Weightless? ...this one! Which means...
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Weightless poetry?
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Weightless poetry? There we go! The solution directly involves weightless poetry.

Side note: any examples of said weightlessness are welcome in this puzzle.
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There once was a pair of LTPF guys,
Called Greg and Matt, whose puzzles surprise
And on LTPF the joke's
Usually on Mr. Coke
Though we've occasionally given Balin the prize.

(I figure weightless poetry doesn't have to make any sense, but I think you both are awesome. Not that I don't think so about anyone else, because that'd be silly. But you are.)
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There once was a pair of LTPF guys,
Called Greg and Matt, whose puzzles surprise
And on LTPF the joke's
Usually on Mr. Coke
Though we've occasionally given Balin the prize.

(I figure weightless poetry doesn't have to make any sense, but I think you both are awesome. Not that I don't think so about anyone else, because that'd be silly. But you are.) Thank you, both for the compliment and for that excellent sampling of weightlessness right there.
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Your puzzle statement ressembles a haiku.

Is a haiku relevant?

To add one myself and since I cannot find my favourite in English, I'll add one from the same author, the famous Matsuo Basho:

First winter rain--
even the monkey
seems to want a raincoat.

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Is a haiku relevant? No, but...

To add one myself and since I cannot find my favourite in English, I'll add one from the same author, the famous Matsuo Basho:

First winter rain--
even the monkey
seems to want a raincoat. Nice one!


Snow falling outside
Wet light flakes are coming down
Looks like God's dandruff.
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How about...
Wormpuzzles are fun
But only if MIDI made sense
Which, sadly, it does not.
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I just Googled "weightless poetry", expecting it to be a real literary term, but all roads lead back to the LTPF, so I'm guessing it's a neologism from here. Anyone care to fill me in?
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I just Googled "weightless poetry", expecting it to be a real literary term, but all roads lead back to the LTPF, so I'm guessing it's a neologism from here. Anyone care to fill me in?

Not sure how to best summarize what it is, so I will use Woubit's words: "It doesn't weigh anything." While some poetry is about heavy topics - life and death, hard times, love, and so one - weightless poetry is quite the opposite, and is usually quite silly. Kaylee's example just above is a pretty good one.

A few archived puzzles which might help you out:

"Wait - Less Poetry!" by Beroean
"Anything to feel weightless again" by Woodworm
"That a cherry was as red" by Woubit

And there's an old chatroom discussion somewhere about the stuff. Quite entertaining, really.
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Technical note: the haiku is not entirely a free verse form, since although haiku need not rhyme they must consist of three lines with respectively five, seven and five syllables (more strictly five moras, where a mora is a unit of sound whose meaning is hotly debated by linguists when they have nothing else to do, which is most of the time).

It is of course possible to write rhymed haiku - one of the more subtle wastes of time in the field of weightless poetry is the "limeraiku", which combines the rhyming scheme of the limerick with the metrical scheme of the haiku:

For limeraikus
We should use, perhaps, the chaps
With higher IQs.


The punctuation
Of the puzzle statement is
Bizarre. On purpose?
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Technical note: the haiku is not entirely a free verse form, since although haiku need not rhyme they must consist of three lines with respectively five, seven and five syllables (more strictly five moras, where a mora is a unit of sound whose meaning is hotly debated by linguists when they have nothing else to do, which is most of the time).

It is of course possible to write rhymed haiku - one of the more subtle wastes of time in the field of weightless poetry is the "limeraiku", which combines the rhyming scheme of the limerick with the metrical scheme of the haiku:


For limeraikus
We should use, perhaps, the chaps
With higher IQs.


I won't even try!
Or else I would get, you bet,
Some tears in my eye.


The punctuation
Of the puzzle statement is
Bizarre. On purpose?

It is, isn't it?
Was my intent to confuse?
A little bit, yes.

As I have stated
Already, the statement-thing
Is three sentences:

"There."
"Or better yet, T."
"Even [blank] would work."
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Are you merely making a statement of what weightless poetry would be, if taken to the extreme? In other words, that the simplest (and therefore most weightless) poem is just one word, like "there", but one could even reduce it to a single letter?
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Are you merely making a statement of what weightless poetry would be, if taken to the extreme? A certain example of it, yes. In other words, that the simplest (and therefore most weightless) poem is just one word, like "there", but one could even reduce it to a single letter? Yes, but again, we're looking for a specific example of weightless poetry that is being reduced.
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A poet who hailed from Bay Shore
Whose limericks stopped at line four,
When asked to explain
Said "Sometimes, my brain
Refuses to work any more".

But another, from Clacton-on-Sea,
As arrogant as he could be,
Said "I am so bright
I could go on all night,
But I choose to end mine at line three.


While an elderly minstrel of Crewe
Whose limericks stopped at line two
Said "I could waste time
Finding words that would rhyme,
But I cannot be bothered - could you?"


There once was a man of Verdun
Whose limericks stopped at line one.
He gave up poetics,
Took up dianetics...
Let us hope the poor chap's having fun.


But here is my Balin, my hero,
Whose limericks stop at line zero.
Long life, my dear friend -
And may yours never end
In the manner of Emperor Nero.
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A poet who hailed from Bay Shore
Whose limericks stopped at line four,
When asked to explain
Said "Sometimes, my brain
Refuses to work any more".

But another, from Clacton-on-Sea,
As arrogant as he could be,
Said "I am so bright
I could go on all night,
But I choose to end mine at line three.


While an elderly minstrel of Crewe
Whose limericks stopped at line two
Said "I could waste time
Finding words that would rhyme,
But I cannot be bothered - could you?"


There once was a man of Verdun
Whose limericks stopped at line one.
He gave up poetics,
Took up dianetics...
Let us hope the poor chap's having fun.

But here is my Balin, my hero,
Whose limericks stop at line zero.
Long life, my dear friend -
And may yours never end
In the manner of Emperor Nero.


Well, that didn't take you much toil,
And you definitely weren't at all foiled.
I should not be surprised
That in front of my eyes
It was Woubit who this one did SPOIL.

**********SPOILER**********

One of the more well-known examples of weightless poetry is that of the poet from Crewe whose limericks stopped at line two. Recently, I read of the spin-off "There once was a man of Verdun," which implies that his limericks stopped at line one, but you couldn't actually say that, else the limerick would have more than one line.

That got me thinking...what about the poet from Kurd? His limericks would stop at one word, so his autobiographical limerick would read "There." But why stop there? I next thought about the poet from Vetter; his autobiographical limerick would stop at one letter, and would read "T."

Of course, one could go even more to the weightless extreme, as there is a poet from Gaul, who didn't write limericks at all. The limerick about this poet would simply not exist - it would be blank.

In that case, the most weightless poem of all would be that which is literally weightless - a poem which does not exist.

So to all of you puzzlers who thrived,
I'm glad that this one you survived.
And so just to be nice,
I'll give you this advice:
Limericks usually stop at line five.


But then again, this is weightless poetry, where rules aren't even guidelines.
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There once was a man from LeFurrple
Who wrote a poem verse ending in "purple"
He said "I need a rhyme"
But I'm out of -

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The recent winner of a Washington Post contest, concerning poems on the news:

Gribbedy grabbedy,
Airport security
Fondles my stuff in an
Intimate way.
Many object to this
Microanalysis;
Sadly for me it's the
Height of my day.
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Here's one I came up with about iambic pentameter:

There are ten syllables in every line,
With emphasis on every other one.
This poem is an iambic one of mine,
And writing like this can be rather fun!

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