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Doriana (Doriana)
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Hey! I'm new to this forum and this is my very first lateral thinking puzzle. I hope it's not too easy for you guys.

She loved him. He knew she would die.
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Is her dying related in any way to loving him?

She 1 = she 2?
Him = he?
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she=human?
he=human?
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Is her dying related in any way to loving him? yope
She 1 = she 2? yes
Him = he? yes
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she=human? yes
he=human? yes
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Welcome to the forum, Doriana!

Did he love her? Was theirs a forbidden love?

Did he know how she was going to die? Was he going to kill her? Was she going to be killed?
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Welcome to the forum! We're a friendly lot here :-)

Is this a true story? FYOI (Something you invented)? FSEI (Someone else invented)?
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Welcome Doriana!

"Love story" movie relevant?
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does this story have to do with fire (as the title suggests)? a fire fighter?
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does this story have to do with fire (as the title suggests)? a fire fighter?
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Did he love her? no Was theirs a forbidden love? noish

Did he know how she was going to die? yes Was he going to kill her? no Was she going to be killed? no

Is this a true story? yes FYOI (Something you invented)? FSEI (Someone else invented)? no to rest

"Love story" movie relevant? no

does this story have to do with fire (as the title suggests)? no a fire fighter? no
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Did she die? If so, did she die of natural causes? Accidentally? Executed? Suicide?
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Did she die? yes If so, did she die of natural causes? yes Accidentally? Executed? Suicide? no to rest
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Did she have a pre-existing condition? A disease? Had she loved him for a long time? Did he use to love her?
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Did she have a pre-existing condition? yes A disease? yes Had she loved him for a long time? no Did he use to love her? no
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Did she know she was dying? Would he have known if she hadn't loved him? Would she have?
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Did she know she was dying? no Would he have known if she hadn't loved him? noish Would she have? no
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Would she have died if she didn't love him?
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Would she have died if she didn't love him? yes-sih

Maybe I should change my puzzle statemant a little bit (I hope that's okay for a newbie like me): She told him that she loved him. He knew she would die.
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Regarding your restatement of the puzzle: should we attempt to discover: the reasons for her love? the reasons based on which he knew of her proximate death? something else?

Is he a famous person? Is she? If so please [LTPF list of centuries]? [LTPF list of continents]?
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Regarding your restatement of the puzzle: should we attempt to discover: the reasons for her love? yes the reasons based on which he knew of her proximate death? yes something else? please rephrase

Is he a famous person? yesish, but not really relevant to the solution. it might help you though Is she? no If so please [LTPF list of centuries]? [LTPF list of continents]? USA, ~1980es
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I just realized that the USA are not a continent and that the 1980es aren't a century either, sorry! But I guess that makes it easier for you.
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That's ok Doriana...it doesn't help me much yet! Still thinking on it.
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Did he know she would die before she told him of her love? Did she love him because he was famous-ish? Was he a celebrity?
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Did he know she would die before she told him of her love? no Did she love him because he was famous-ish? no Was he a celebrity? no, and i don't think you can call him one now either
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Some additional information: I just found out that the two versions of this story, a true one and an adapted one, are slightly different. I'm referring to the adapted version here.
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Is the exact wording of her statement relevant? Did she pledge her "undying love"? Her "dying love"?
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Is the exact wording of her statement relevant? noish Did she pledge her "undying love"? Her "dying love"? no to both
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Is her job relevant? Is his?

Did she tell him she loved him in a statement? A poem? A song?
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Is her job relevant? no, but in the true story it is slightly Is his? yes!!

Did she tell him she loved him in a statement? yes A poem? A song? no to rest

By the way, the adapted version to which I'm referring is set in the 2000s, but still in the USA.
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Is his job in:

Artistic / musical / writer
Banking / financial / real estate
Clerical / Administrative
Computer related / Hardware
Construction / Craftsman
Criminal / Questionable Repute
Education / Academic Research
Entertainment / Media
Environmental / Outdoors / Nature
Executive / Management
Hospitality / Travel
Legal Services
Manufacturing / Distributions
Medical / Health Services
Politics / Government / Military
Sales / Marketing
Technical / Science / Engineering
Teaching / Child care
Transport
Food Service
Other ?
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Artistic / musical / writer
Banking / financial / real estate
Clerical / Administrative
Computer related / Hardware
Construction / Craftsman
Criminal / Questionable Repute
Education / Academic Research
Entertainment / Media
Environmental / Outdoors / Nature
Executive / Management
Hospitality / Travel
Legal Services
Manufacturing / Distributions
Medical this / Health Services
Politics / Government / Military
Sales / Marketing
Technical / Science / Engineering
Teaching / Child care
Transport
Food Service
Other
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Is he a doctor? Her doctor?
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Is he a doctor? yes Her doctor? yes!
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Would it help to figure out the disease? Was it ALS?
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Would it help to figure out the disease? Yes, it's more or less the solution Was it ALS? no
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Was it a congenital defect? Did it affect her heart? Nerves? Muscles? Brain?
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Was it a congenital defect? no Did it affect her heart? no Nerves? yes Muscles? no Brain? yes
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Leprosy?
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Leprosy? no
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Was it a chronic disease?
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Was it a chronic disease? yep
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Did he infer from her statement of love that she had that particular disease, which is fatal?
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Did he infer from her statement of love that she had that particular disease, which is fatal? yes!!

The very last step is to find out the disease, and then the solution is complete
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Was it a prion disease? A viral disease?
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Was it a prion disease? A viral disease? No to both; it's caused by bacteria
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Meningitis? Tetanus? Botulism?
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I'm lost here :-) Is it a common disease? Some that doesn't need specialized knowledge to be pin-pointed? Meningitis?
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Meningitis? Tetanus? Botulism? no to all
Is it a common disease? quite Some that doesn't need specialized knowledge to be pin-pointed? yes, although I didn't know it was caused by bacteria until I looked it up Meningitis? no

HINT: The patient is quite old and caught this disease a long time ago. And remember, she didn't know she had it until she told her doctor she loved him.
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Alzheimer?
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Alzheimer? no

Do you want to continue guessing the disease? I think you're really close to the solution now so that I could also spoil it if you gave me a complete sentence with all the neccessary information (:
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Well, let's try: an elderly woman said to her doctor that she is in love with him. The doctor then realizes that the woman is suffering from a neurological disorder that will be fatal to her. The disease, caused by a bacteria, is not yet determined in this puzzle. Is there more to to it?

If some characteristics of the disease are of utmost importance, do not $poil it yet. Someone more knowledgeable that me in this area might find it
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an elderly woman said to her doctor that she is in love with him. The doctor then realizes that the woman is suffering from a neurological disorder that will be fatal to her. The disease, caused by a bacteria, is not yet determined in this puzzle. Is there more to to it? That's it

Okay, I won't spoil it yet - someone still has to find out how this specific disease is related to the woman's feelings towards her doctor.
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you should say $poil, not the other, until you mean to end the puzzle, otherwise the mods might shelve it prematurely...I'm not sure why it happens that way, but it does...not a good idea to spell the word until you mean it. :-)

Did the bacteria give her some sort of psychosis?
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"you should say $poil, not the other, until you mean to end the puzzle, otherwise the mods might shelve it prematurely...I'm not sure why it happens that way, but it does...not a good idea to spell the word until you mean it. :-)" Oh, okay! Thanks for the info, I didn't know that! (:

Did the bacteria give her some sort of psychosis? Yes, "some sort of", but it's only a part of the disease.
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Did she think the doctor was someone else? A love interest from her past? A famous person from the past?

Did she have dementia?
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Did she think the doctor was someone else? Noish - She knew he was her doctor, but she also talked about someone else. But that's not really relevant A love interest from her past? no A famous person She compares the doctor to a famous person, but see above from the past? no

Did she have dementia? no
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Did she confuse the doctor with the famous person?
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Did she confuse the doctor with the famous person? No, she only compares him to the famous person. But the famous person is not really relevant and might confuse _you_ (; I don't know if this is of any help, but it's Ashton Kutcher.
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Did she compare the doctor to a younger Ashton Kutcher?
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Did she compare the doctor to a younger Ashton Kutcher? Younger than the doctor? Yes. But I think you really shouldn't pursue this thought, it won't help you. I guess I shouldn't have mentioned him in the first place...
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Did the woman have a celeb crush on AK?
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Did the woman have a celeb crush on AK? yes, kind of
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Did the woman know AK?
Doriana (Doriana)
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Did the woman know AK? not personally
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Did the woman think that the doctor was AK? Looked like AK?
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Did the woman think that the doctor was AK? no Looked like AK? yesish, she points out some things they have in common
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Did she think that the doctor had AK's eyes? Were their eyes different colors? Or did she point out some other "similarity" that actually didn't exist?
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Did she think that the doctor had AK's eyes? yes Were their eyes different colors? I don't know, and irrel Or did she point out some other "similarity" that actually didn't exist? no, and I think the similarity actually exists

By the way, her "celeb crush" on AK is also caused by her disease.
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So, let me try and recap what we know:

-The woman has a celebrity crush on Ashton Kutcher, caused by the disease.
-The woman confuses the doctor with AK, and tells him she loves him.
-By this statement, the doctor realizes that she has the disease (which affects the nerves and brain) and she will die.

Is that all correct? Did I miss anything?
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-The woman has a celebrity crush on Ashton Kutcher, caused by the disease. yes
-The woman confuses the doctor with AK, and tells him she loves him. no! She knows that the doctor is the doctor, she just points out a similarity between him and AK. There's nothing wrong with her memory or something like that
-By this statement, the doctor realizes that she has the disease (which affects the nerves and brain) and she will die. yes

Is that all correct? see above Did I miss anything? no, nothing relevant (:
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Did she say that she loved AK?
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Did she say that she loved AK? no, just that she finds him attractive. And she actually never used the word "love" when she talked to the doctor
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Did she make a comparison about something that she shouldn't ordinarily have been able to? (i.e. if she were blind, and said their eyes looked similar)
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Did she make a comparison about something that she shouldn't ordinarily have been able to? (i.e. if she were blind, and said their eyes looked similar) no, the comparison is absolutely ok. I for example could have made it too
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Alright, I'm headed towards nursing school so I'll throw my hat in the ring as far as diseases caused by infection. I think all this AK stuff is throwing us way off...

Botulism?
Diphtheria?
Tetanus?
Syphilis?
Malaria? (Which can cause hallucinations)

Does the disease specifically target the eyes?
Conjuctivitis?
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Botulism?
Diphtheria?
Tetanus?
Syphilis? YES!!
Malaria? (Which can cause hallucinations)

Does the disease specifically target the eyes?
Conjuctivitis?

And once again, Sam found the last missing piece of information, nice work! Here's the

********SPOILER********
This puzzle is based on the episode "Poison" of House.
An old Lady, Georgia, tells House that she's feeling very well lately and that she has sexual phantasies involving younger men, especially Ashton Kutcher. She also starts flirting with House and tells him she finds him attractive.
House figurs out that her sudden personality change is caused by neurosyphilis, and she admits that she might have caught it as a teenager. House prescribes penicillin, but she refuses treatment because the brain damage makes her feel so good.


The House episode is based on a true story featured in Oliver Sacks' book "The man who mistook his wife for a hat". In this version, the old lady doesn't have a crush on the doctor, but only tells him that she feels young and vivacious again.
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Posted on Thursday, December 23, 2010 - 9:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Nice! Keep those puzzles coming, this one was tricky. Thanks to everyone else for the groundwork!
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Nice one Doriana! I was way OTWT trying to think at "pure" neurological diseases... and I never thought of syphilis, which I categorized as simply a STD. Luckily I'm not a doctor :-)
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Posted on Thursday, December 23, 2010 - 10:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This was a good one!

I have vague recollections of the episode, but I haven't watched the show in a while.

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