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Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
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Posted on Saturday, December 25, 2010 - 10:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did someone even check the facts? That makes no sense at all...Not to mention, it's insulting.
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Posted on Saturday, December 25, 2010 - 10:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

it = A statement? An action? An event?
Insulting... in general? A certain group of people?
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Posted on Saturday, December 25, 2010 - 10:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

it = A statement? This is closest. An action? An event?
Insulting... in general? A certain group of people? Thisish. Although more people should feel insulted on behalf of the "group", I would think...but they seem to miss the point.
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Posted on Saturday, December 25, 2010 - 10:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it a saying? An idiom? Or something lots of people say everyday?
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Posted on Saturday, December 25, 2010 - 10:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it a saying? An idiom? Or something lots of people say everyday? None of these.
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Posted on Saturday, December 25, 2010 - 10:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Christmas relevant?
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
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Posted on Saturday, December 25, 2010 - 10:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Christmas relevant? Yes.
Doriana (Doriana)
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Posted on Saturday, December 25, 2010 - 10:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the nativity story relevant? The historical facts? The way we celebrate Christmas nowadays?
Is the specific group that might consider it insulting women? men? people from a certain ethic/religious background? From a certain country?
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Posted on Saturday, December 25, 2010 - 10:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Got a hunch - emailed.
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
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Posted on Saturday, December 25, 2010 - 10:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the nativity story relevant? The historical facts? The way we celebrate Christmas nowadays? Not these
Is the specific group that might consider it insulting women? men? not gender related people from a certain ethic/religious background? did you mean ethical, or ethnic? From a certain country? Not from a particular country, but...
Doriana (Doriana)
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Posted on Saturday, December 25, 2010 - 10:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I meant ethnic, sorry. So, people from a certain ethnic background? From a certain ethical background?
Not from a country, but... from a continent? Region? City?
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Got a hunch - emailed. Email received, Balin...possible $poyler wrong. Nice try, but OTWT entirely.
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Saturday, December 25, 2010 - 10:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Race relevant?
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Posted on Saturday, December 25, 2010 - 10:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I meant ethnic, sorry. So, people from a certain ethnic background? From a certain ethical background?
Not from a country, but... from a continent? This. And to save invoking the LTPF list, it's Africa. Region? City?

Race relevant? Not really.
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Posted on Saturday, December 25, 2010 - 10:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The facts...related to Christmas? Related to Africa? Related to Africans?
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
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Posted on Saturday, December 25, 2010 - 10:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The facts...related to Christmas? Related to Africa?This, mostly. All three, really, but someone seriously screwed up as far as geography and climate when making this thing up... Related to Africans?
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Posted on Saturday, December 25, 2010 - 11:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did someone make a false claim about Africa? That it was a country? When it's really a continent?
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Posted on Saturday, December 25, 2010 - 11:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did someone make a false claim about Africa? More than one. That it was a country? When it's really a continent? I don't think that was actually stated, but I wouldn't be surprised if the lyricists were that stupid, what with all the other mistakes that were made...
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Posted on Saturday, December 25, 2010 - 11:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it a Christmas song? A Christmas poem?
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Posted on Saturday, December 25, 2010 - 11:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it a Christmas song? Well, it mentions Christmas, and it's a song, so I suppose it's a Christmas song, although its message is a little...off... A Christmas poem? Not this.
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Posted on Saturday, December 25, 2010 - 11:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Will there be snow in Africa this Christmastime?
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
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Posted on Saturday, December 25, 2010 - 11:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Will there be snow in Africa this Christmastime? *raises eyebrow* I think you may have it...but email for early $poyler?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Saturday, December 25, 2010 - 11:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sending off the missive.
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
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Posted on Saturday, December 25, 2010 - 11:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sending off the missive. Possible $poyler correct. Do you want to end it here?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Saturday, December 25, 2010 - 11:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'll end it if there are no questions by midnight, forum time. In the meantime, how about you take a look at some of my puzzles?
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
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Posted on Saturday, December 25, 2010 - 11:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Just jumped in on your new one.
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Sunday, December 26, 2010 - 12:13 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

OK, the solution...

The song: "Do They Know it's Christmas?" by Band Aid.

The climate error: "And there won't be snow in Africa this Christmastime."

The insulting part: "Well tonight thank God it's them instead of you."

I think Bono had an objection to that line which was satisfied before he would record it. I can't remember the details though.
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Posted on Sunday, December 26, 2010 - 12:36 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yes, more or less. Full lyrics and objections following, so ***SPOILER***

It's Christmas time
There's no need to be afraid
It's Christmas time
We let in light and we banish shade

And in our world of plenty
We can spread a smile of joy
Throw your arms around the world
At Christmas time

But say a prayer
Pray for the other ones
At Christmas time it's hard
But when you're having fun

There's a world outside your window
And it's a world of dread and fear
Where the only water flowing
Is the bitter sting of tears

And the Christmas bells that ring there
Are the clanging chimes of doom
Well tonight thank God it's them
Instead of you...

And there won't be snow in Africa this Christmas time Not even on Mt. Kilimanjaro?
The greatest gift they'll get this year is life
Where nothing ever grows, no rain or rivers flow Ever heard of the Nile?
Do they know it's Christmas time at all? I'm sure all the CHRISTIANS do...and probably even people who don't celebrate it do know about it...

Here's to you
Raise your glass to everyone
Here's to them
Underneath that burning sun Yeah, there's this tiny thing called *night time*. And another called *winter*. Also, not all of Africa is a desert, but the part that is, is probably freezing at night.

Feed the world
Feed the world

Feed the world
Let them know it's Christmas time and
Feed the world
Let them know it's Christmas time and
Feed the world
Let them know it's Christmas time and...Yeah, it's ok to suggest compassion for the needy, but making the whole continent of Africa and all its inhabitants sound like heat-plagued, starving, 'savages' who need to be "saved" is more than a little patronizing and insulting, not to mention inaccurate and stupid (as is their grasp on geography and climate). Not the best message at Christmas, I think. What's everyone else's take?

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