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Andrew walked into a bar and gently asked for a beer. The bartender got angry and threw him out. How come?
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Does the fact that Andrew asked "gently" for a beer have anything to do with it?

Is the fact that Andrew asked for beer important? Would it have made a difference if he had asked for wine? Spirits? Water?
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Does the fact that Andrew asked "gently" for a beer have anything to do with it? no

Is the fact that Andrew asked for beer important? yes Would it have made a difference if he had asked for wine? yes Spirits? yes Water? yes
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was it, say, root beer he asked for? As opposed to real beer, lol?

Or if it was real beer that he asked for, does the type matter? I don't drink alcohol, so I don't know all the kinds of beer that are out there...
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was it, say, root beer he asked for? As opposed to real beer, lol? lol, no. He asked for real beer

Or if it was real beer that he asked for, does the type matter? yes I don't drink alcohol, so I don't know all the kinds of beer that are out there...You don't have to. You just have to know that it's a specific type of beer that you asked for.
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"he", not "you", lol
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lol...so, he asked for a specific type of beer. Was it a specific size? Beer comes in pints, I know, lol...

Was it a type of beer that the bar didn't have?

Is the century relevant? Decade? LTPF lists, please?
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lol...so, he asked for a specific type of beer. Was it a specific size? no Beer comes in pints, I know, lol...

Was it a type of beer that the bar didn't have? yes

Is the century relevant? Decade? LTPF lists, please? late 20th or 21st century, I'd say
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was the specific country this occurred in relevant? was the man a foreigner? was the specific beer not sold in that country at all?
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was the specific country this occurred in relevant? yesish - Germany was the man a foreigner? no was the specific beer not sold in that country at all? no, but OTRT
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Was Andrew of legal drinking age? Was Andrew being insulting? Did the barman think he was?
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Was Andrew of legal drinking age? yes (Fun fact: It's 16 in Germany!) Was Andrew being insulting? yope Did the barman think he was? yes
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Did Andrew know that the beer which he ordered was not at that bar?
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Did Andrew know that the beer which he ordered was not at that bar? yes
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Did Andrew want to see how far he could push the bartender before being thrown out?
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Did Andrew want to see how far he could push the bartender before being thrown out? yope - he didn't plan to ask more than one question
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Did he repeat the question? More than once?
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Did he repeat the question? More than once? no, just once, and he was thrown out
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Was Andrew planning to be thrown out? Had Andrew asked the question before? That same day?
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Was Andrew planning to be thrown out? yope - at least he was not planning to drink a beer Had Andrew asked the question before? no That same day? no
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Relevant the size of the beer he ordered? Was Andrew a regular at the bar? Had he been to that particular bar before?
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Relevant the size of the beer he ordered? no Was Andrew a regular at the bar? no Had he been to that particular bar before? probably not
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Is anything about that type of beer relevant, other than that it was not sold at the bar? Had others asked for that same beer earlier? Many others? Right before Andrew?
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Is anything about that type of beer relevant, other than that it was not sold at the bar? yesish - it's relevant why it was not sold at that bar. HINT: If there had been a bar next door, it wouldn't have sold it either Had others asked for that same beer earlier? probably Many others? probably Right before Andrew? maybe
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Was it illegal to sell that beer at that place?
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Was it illegal to sell that beer at that place? no
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Did the bar have a license to sell that beer?

Did the bar sell a certain brand that was Beer X's rival?
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Did the bar have a license to sell that beer? yes

Did the bar sell a certain brand that was Beer X's rival? Yes! You're almost there. There's a rivalry between two beer brands, but also...
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But also...between two bars? Between the bartender and Andrew?
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Did Andrew sell Beer X? Beer X's rival? Was he trying to get the bar to sell Beer X?
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But also...between two bars? Between the bartender and Andrew? no to both

Did Andrew sell Beer X? No, Andrew didn't sell anything, or did you mean the bar? Beer X's rival? Was he trying to get the bar to sell Beer X? yesish

I'll do a short recap to get the beer brands straight: Andrew walks into a bar and asks for a Beer X, although the bar usually sells Beer Y (X's rival). Lots of people have done exactly the same before. The bartender gets angry and throws him out.
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Does Andrew brew Beer X?
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Does Andrew brew Beer X? no
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And Andrew did this on purpose, right?

Do Beers X and Y have similar names?
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Does the bartender know Andrew? Know of Andrew?

Does Andrew know the bartender? Know of the bartender?
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And Andrew did this on purpose, right? yes

Do Beers X and Y have similar names? no

Does the bartender know Andrew? Know of Andrew? Does Andrew know the bartender? Know of the bartender? no to all

It'd help you to find out more about the rivalry...
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Has the rivalry been longstanding? Is either of the two beers brewed by the bartender? Or his family?
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Has the rivalry been longstanding? yes Is either of the two beers brewed by the bartender? Or his family? no to both
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Is the rivalry well-known?
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Is the rivalry well-known? in Germany, yes - Google might help here
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Are the two types of beer exclusively German? Or are they known worldwide?
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Kölsch/Koelsch? In Cologne and Düsseldorf?
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Are the two types of beer exclusively German? this Or are they known worldwide? as far as I know, they're not.

Do you want me to tell you the brand names? That'd make it easy for you to find out the rivalry I'm talking about
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And Altbier, I meant...the article on Kölsch misled me a bit.
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Kölsch/Koelsch? In Cologne and Düsseldorf? yes!

Wanna put the pieces together, Kaylee kitteh?
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Was this for an advertisement? To promote the beer?
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Was this for an advertisement? To promote the beer? no to both
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Relevant that Kölsch looks similar to Koch? (not that I think it's really relevant, but I never pass up an opportunity to notice something about Kochs, like Mr. Gregory Coke, lol)
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Relevant that Kölsch looks similar to Koch? no... You were really close with Kölsch/Altbier and Cologne/Düsseldorf
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Kölsch — pale, light-bodied, beer which can only legally be brewed in the Cologne region. 11-12° Plato, 4.5-5% ABV.

Altbier — a dark amber, hoppy beer brewed around Düsseldorf. 11-12° Plato, 4.5-5% ABV.
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"The rivalry between the cities of Cologne and Düsseldorf, bitter in the past but today mostly a humorous matter, is often expressed by the preference of one of these types of beer, and ordering the wrong kind in the wrong city has in fact resulted in abuse and even violence in the past, although today a couple of jokes about "immigrants" or "foreigners" is probably all that would result." Kölsch article on Wikipedia
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Kölsch — pale, light-bodied, beer which can only legally be brewed in the Cologne region. 11-12° Plato, 4.5-5% ABV.

Altbier — a dark amber, hoppy beer brewed around Düsseldorf. 11-12° Plato, 4.5-5% ABV. So far, so good. Two beers and two cities.

Where's the rivalry and what did Andrew do where?
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Where's the rivalry and what did Andrew do where? lol, you just answered it... So here comes the

********SPOILER********

I grew up in Leverkusen, a town right between Cologne and Düsseldorf, two cities that have had a great rivalry for almost 1000 years. Both cities brew their local beer, Kölsch in Cologne and Alt in Düsseldorf.

Andrew walked into a bar in Düsseldorf and ordered a glass of Kölsch which is a very common prank. Usually, the bartender makes a joke or tells you that Kölsch is not sold in Düsseldorf, but our poor Andrew came across one of those who get very angry.
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I know Leverkusen for a certain Hotel-Restaurant with a particularly hilarious name from an English perspective. Not that I have ever been there (the city or the hotel).

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