| Author | Message | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1157 Registered: 9-2009 |
They were together during a happy day. However, she felt resentful. Eventually, he was not happy either. FMOI, based on humorous comments made by a friend. Since I was away: A Happy New Year to all the co-puzzlers and congrats to Peter for his new assignment | ||
| Fandres17 (Fandres17)
New member Username: Fandres17 Post Number: 41 Registered: 12-2010 |
Does the happy day was a special holyday? Did they where feeling unhappy since the beggining? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1159 Registered: 9-2009 |
Does the happy day was a special holyday? Did they where feeling unhappy since the beggining? No to both, if I understand correctly the first question | ||
| Fandres17 (Fandres17)
New member Username: Fandres17 Post Number: 42 Registered: 12-2010 |
Does the therm "happy day" refers to x-mas? new year? hallowen? another common holiday? or a birthday? anniversary? a sunny day? Was this a happy they to them? or to others? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1160 Registered: 9-2009 |
Does the therm "happy day" refers to x-mas? new year? hallowen? another common holiday? or a birthday? anniversary? a sunny day? No to all Was this a happy they to them? If by 'they' you mean 'day' this and... or to others? ... presumably this too | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 14 Registered: 1-2011 |
Them= 2 people? 3? 5? 10? more? Them= H?A?M? F? Mixed? Time and location relevant? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1161 Registered: 9-2009 |
Them= 2 people? 3? 5? 10? more? If by 'them' you mean 'they' in the puzzle statement, then 2 Them= H?A?M? F? Mixed? Assuming the above, one HAM (Woodworm will be pleased) and one HAF Time and location relevant? It happened three days ago in Rome. But both the time and location are largely irrelevant -- assume this century in Europe | ||
| Fandres17 (Fandres17)
New member Username: Fandres17 Post Number: 43 Registered: 12-2010 |
Did they have a sentimental relationship? relatives? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1163 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did they have a sentimental relationship? Yes! relatives? Yope | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 10580 Registered: 4-2010 |
Were they married? Engaged? Dating? Secret lovers? Was she resentful because of something he did? Said? That she hadn't known about? And later found out about? An affair? | ||
| Fandres17 (Fandres17)
New member Username: Fandres17 Post Number: 46 Registered: 12-2010 |
was she feeling bad, because of some attitude he took? he felt bad because of the same reason? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1164 Registered: 9-2009 |
Were they married? Yes, so no to the rest Engaged? Dating? Secret lovers? Was she resentful because of something he did? Said? That she hadn't known about? And later found out about? An affair? No to all was she feeling bad, because of some attitude he took? he felt bad because of the same reason? No to all | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 15 Registered: 1-2011 |
Was she resentful for some reason not caused by him? Was he feeling bad because her latter resentfulness? She was resentful during the whole day or only since something happen? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1166 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was she resentful for some reason not caused by him? Indeed Was he feeling bad because her latter resentfulness? Yes - nothing left to be discovered about this She was resentful during the whole day No and FA or only since something happen? Yes | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 35 Registered: 1-2011 |
The cause of her resentfulness was: someone else? if so, his/hers words or actions? something else? if so, weather? food? disappointment of some sort? something about travelling? Rome is their home city or were they travelling? Relevant? Any misunderstanding involved? She mistook something as offensive? insultive? Or was it deliberately offensive? insultive? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1167 Registered: 9-2009 |
The cause of her resentfulness was: someone else? Yes if so, his/hers Gender irrelevant words No or actions? Yes something else? if so, weather? food? So no to the rest disappointment of some sort? Yes something about travelling? Nothing related to traveling, though Rome is their home city or were they travelling? No or irrelevant to both Relevant? Any misunderstanding involved? She mistook something as offensive? insultive? Or was it deliberately offensive? insultive? Nothing was deliberately offensive and/or insulting | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 44 Registered: 1-2011 |
So: someone else caused her disappointment by his actions, right? She was disappointed with: that someone? that what happened? the day? Rome? Italy? Her husband? Are the details of time and location of the event that caused her resentfulness relevant? Was her becoming resentful justified? Or she exagerated? She was resentful towards someone? her husband? that another person? towards something? or just resentful in general? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 10628 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did she remain resentful for a long time? Was she resentful at the same time that he was not happy? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1170 Registered: 9-2009 |
So: someone else caused her disappointment by his actions, right? Yes She was disappointed with: that someone? Yesish, but more importantly... that what happened? ... this one the day? No Rome? Italy? No to both. Rome and Italy are not relevant, as noted above Her husband? No Are the details of time and location of the event that caused her resentfulness relevant? Yope to both. Beware FA Was her becoming resentful justified? Or she exagerated? That is a subjective assessment. CA She was resentful towards someone? See above her husband? See above that another person? Yes, see above towards something? Yope, please clarify or just resentful in general? Please clarify Did she remain resentful for a long time? Unknown and irrel Was she resentful at the same time that he was not happy? Yes | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 56 Registered: 1-2011 |
I try to establish how she expressed her resentfulness, but it is difficult to ask questions about. That's why it lookes like I'm asking the same questions over and over again Did she express her resentfulness to: her husband? that another person? everybody in sight? Did she express her resentfulness by: not talking to people? demostrating her bad mood? crying? shouting at somebody? She didn't express her resentfulness at all, she just felt so? The specific location: outside? inside? home? government building? entertainment building? shop? restaurant/cafe? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1171 Registered: 9-2009 |
I try to establish how she expressed her resentfulness, but it is difficult to ask questions about. That's why it lookes like I'm asking the same questions over and over again I understand. I try to be as specific as I can Did she express her resentfulness to: her husband? Yes that another person? Probably everybody in sight? Unknown and irrelevant Did she express her resentfulness by: not talking to people? demostrating her bad mood? crying? shouting at somebody? That is unknown and irrelevant. Somehow she made it clear that she was not pleased She didn't express her resentfulness at all, she just felt so? No The specific location: outside? This one, so no to the rest inside? home? government building? entertainment building? shop? restaurant/cafe? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 10713 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was the location part of the cause for her resentfulness? Would it be helpful to learn the country this took place on? If so, is it on [LTPF list of continents]? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 60 Registered: 1-2011 |
So, the outside: a park? a street? an outdoor stadium? outdoor car parking? other? The action that caused resentfulness was positive (like someone did something unwanded) or negative (like someone didn't do something expected)? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1172 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was the location part of the cause for her resentfulness? In a sense, hard to answer. Yope Would it be helpful to learn the country this took place on? No, but you can assume Rome, even though it is irrelevant If so, is it on [LTPF list of continents]? So, the outside: a park? a street? This, but there's more to it. No to the rest an outdoor stadium? outdoor car parking? other? The action that caused resentfulness was positive (like someone did something unwanded) or negative (like someone didn't do something expected)? Both | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 64 Registered: 1-2011 |
So, a street: bus stop? shopping street? outside the house? they have just exited the building? they were about to enter the building. Trying to explain "both": someone did something unwanted instead of something expected? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1173 Registered: 9-2009 |
So, a street: bus stop? shopping street? outside the house? they have just exited the building? This one, none of the others they were about to enter the building. Trying to explain "both": someone did something unwanted instead of something expected? Indeed. Beware FA though | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 10743 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the specific building relevant? Is it a home? Their home? A public building? A place of business? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1174 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is the specific building relevant? Yes Is it a home? Their home? A public building? This one, none of the rest A place of business? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 10748 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is it a library? Government building? Church? Cathedral? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1175 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is it a library? Government building? Church? This one Cathedral? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 10752 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is it relevant why they were in a church? Was it a Protestant church? Orthodox? Catholic? Confession relevant? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 10753 Registered: 4-2010 |
Were they getting married? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1176 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is it relevant why they were in a church? Yes, see below Was it a Protestant church? Orthodox? Catholic? This one, but irrelevant Confession relevant? No Were they getting married? Yes! | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 10763 Registered: 4-2010 |
She felt resentful - during the wedding? Before it? After it? At the reception? On the wedding night? On the honeymoon? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 67 Registered: 1-2011 |
Someone did "faux pas" in his/her wishes to the newly married couple? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 10794 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was something revealed that, for all intensive purposes, should not have been? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1178 Registered: 9-2009 |
She felt resentful - during the wedding? Before it? After it? This one At the reception? On the wedding night? On the honeymoon? And probably a bit of this too Someone did "faux pas" in his/her wishes to the newly married couple? Not in his/her wishes, but someway OTRT Was something revealed that, for all intensive purposes, should not have been? Not this kind of thing | ||
| Kalira (Kalira)
New member Username: Kalira Post Number: 552 Registered: 2-2009 |
::pokes Balin:: sorry... it's one of my peeves, though in theory it could be defended in this situation :-) The thing she was resentful about -- was it directly related to their wedding (for example, the caterer didn't show up)? or did it just happen to coincide with the wedding (for example, there was a car accident outside the church)? Was it something someone said to her? them? as they left the church? The person who caused her resentment -- is he/she a passerby? part of the celebration? (part of the wedding party? a guest?) | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 2500 Registered: 9-2010 |
*joins in poking Balin, but then gives Balin a cheeseburger when Kalira's not looking* :-D Did something come to light about a former relationship one of them had with someone else? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1180 Registered: 9-2009 |
The thing she was resentful about -- was it directly related to their wedding Yes (for example, the caterer didn't show up)? Not this, though, but OTRT or did it just happen to coincide with the wedding (for example, there was a car accident outside the church)? So, no Was it something someone said to her? them? as they left the church? The person who caused her resentment -- is he/she a passerby? part of the celebration? Yope, if I understand correctly. None of the rest (part of the wedding party? a guest?) Did something come to light about a former relationship one of them had with someone else? Not this kind of thing -- a sillier and simpler cause | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 77 Registered: 1-2011 |
Ok, so someone who caused her resentfulness was someone hired by the couple in connection with the wedding? Driver? Person who organises wedding? Priest? Florist? Musicians? Was any of the details changed in comparison to what had been planned? If so: the detail is now: inappropriate? considered unlucky? Any wedding traditions/customs/prejudices/superstitions relevant? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1182 Registered: 9-2009 |
Ok, so someone who caused her resentfulness was someone hired by the couple in connection with the wedding? Yes! Driver? Person who organises wedding? Priest? Florist? Musicians? None of these Was any of the details changed in comparison to what had been planned? No If so: the detail is now: inappropriate? considered unlucky? She seemed to think this way Any wedding traditions/customs/prejudices/superstitions relevant? Might be, but I'm unaware of them Just a few steps left | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 78 Registered: 1-2011 |
Was it a bridesman/bridesmaid? Something with the wedding rings? Or with wedding gifts? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 10815 Registered: 4-2010 |
*reaches over the past few posts and pokes Kalira back, takes cheezburger from Kaylee* I don't know what "intensive purposes" means; I just know that it's something people randomly add to conversation. Person o' resentfulness: one of the wedding party? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1183 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was it a bridesman/bridesmaid? Something with the wedding rings? Or with wedding gifts? No to all. Kalira was closer with the caterer Person o' resentfulness: one of the wedding party? No | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 97 Registered: 1-2011 |
Ok, so something was wrong with the food? With specific type of food? Wedding cake? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1186 Registered: 9-2009 |
Ok, so something was wrong with the food? Nothing was wrong with the food. I guess it's a FA here. So no to the rest With specific type of food? Wedding cake? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 98 Registered: 1-2011 |
Ok, so newly married couple went out of the church and then someone hired by them in connection with wedding did something that made her resentful. The incident is more or less about this, that something unwanted happened instead of something expected. She felt resentful because she seemed to consider the incident unlucky. Is that all correct? The incident is connected with something that happens commonly on weddings immediately after exiting church? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1188 Registered: 9-2009 |
Ok, so newly married couple went out of the church and then someone hired by them in connection with wedding did something that made her resentful. The incident is more or less about this, that something unwanted happened instead of something expected. She felt resentful because she seemed to consider the incident unlucky. Is that all correct? Entirely The incident is connected with something that happens commonly on weddings immediately after exiting church? Yes, or at least it is in my experience | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 10841 Registered: 4-2010 |
Showering the couple with rice? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1189 Registered: 9-2009 |
Showering the couple with rice? No | ||
| Kalira (Kalira)
New member Username: Kalira Post Number: 558 Registered: 2-2009 |
Does it have anything to do with how they leave the church? like a limo? or a carriage? or just a car? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1191 Registered: 9-2009 |
Does it have anything to do with how they leave the church? like a limo? or a carriage? or just a car? No. It's simpler than this | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 10858 Registered: 4-2010 |
"Decorating" the wedding car? Leaving for the reception? The reception itself? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1192 Registered: 9-2009 |
"Decorating" the wedding car? Leaving for the reception? The reception itself? No to all | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 10870 Registered: 4-2010 |
Does the "something" happen immediately after: exiting the church building? Exiting the church grounds? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1194 Registered: 9-2009 |
Does the "something" happen immediately after: exiting the church building? Normally this around here, and relevant to the puzzle... Exiting the church grounds?... but this also might be the case. Also before going to the church and at the reception | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 99 Registered: 1-2011 |
Welcoming the newly married couple with bread? Something with flowers? A toast? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1197 Registered: 9-2009 |
Welcoming the newly married couple with bread? Something with flowers? A toast? No to all | ||
| Kalira (Kalira)
New member Username: Kalira Post Number: 559 Registered: 2-2009 |
Is the thing that was supposed to happen something that generally happens at all weddings? all weddings of a certain faith? only at weddings that meet certain criteria (for example, the saber arch happens only at a military wedding)? (theoretically) at only a few weddings? Was she resentful because it didn't happen at all? because it happened in a way she didn't want it to? because it failed in some way? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1198 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is the thing that was supposed to happen something that generally happens at all weddings? I'd say yes, but I have a limited experience - Christian, orthodox and catholic all weddings of a certain faith? Religion is not relevant only at weddings that meet certain criteria (for example, the saber arch happens only at a military wedding)? (theoretically) at only a few weddings? No to the rest -- it is a very common thing, so to speak, that can happen even outside a wedding ceremony Was she resentful because it didn't happen at all? No, good question because it happened in a way she didn't want it to? Yes, and ... because it failed in some way? ... Yesish | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 10921 Registered: 4-2010 |
Does the thing involve the newlyweds? The guests? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1203 Registered: 9-2009 |
Does the thing involve the newlyweds? The guests? All, normally. For the purpose of this puzzle, only the newlyweds are relevant | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 10934 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is food relevant at all? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 116 Registered: 1-2011 |
Are any common superstitions relevant? like broken glass/mirrors, black cats etc.? Taking photos relevant? Was the person who caused the incident a photographer? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1204 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is food relevant at all? No Are any common superstitions relevant? like broken glass/mirrors, black cats etc.? No to both Taking photos relevant? Was the person who caused the incident a photographer? A big Yes! to both This can be $poiled right now, but let's wait a little bit to see if we can determine what his mistake was | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 10978 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did he not put film in the camera? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1205 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did he not put film in the camera? No, he shot rather good pictures... But not according to the newlyweds | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 10986 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did he shoot pictures of the newlyweds? Of the guests? Of the ceremony? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1206 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did he shoot pictures of the newlyweds? Yope, and this is important and close to the solve. No to the rest Of the guests? Of the ceremony? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 10988 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did he shoot pictures of the bride? The groom? Them together? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 121 Registered: 1-2011 |
Ok, so the thing that was wrong with the pictures... Did the photographer shoot the newlyweds separately? Or when they looked silly/ridiculous? Did the bride not liked herself on the photos? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1208 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did he shoot pictures of the bride? Yope The groom? yes Them together? Yope Ok, so the thing that was wrong with the pictures... Did the photographer shoot the newlyweds separately? yope Or when they looked silly/ridiculous? no Did the bride not liked herself on the photos? Yesish Enough of this, let's proceed to the ******* SPOILER ******* Our photographer, not being a professional wedding photographer but rather an artist-to-be, tried to shoot some unconventional pictures for a very conservative couple... one of those being shooting the groom while his bride's shadow was on the ground...! Which of course enraged her and eventually enraged the groom himself. The idea sparked from a little conversation that we have a few days ago in Rome, after my wife took a similar picture and tried to convince a friend -- this time a professional -- that he should try those new techniques for a real wedding. "God forbids" -- he answered -- "I won't get any contract afterwards... It's good for an exhibition but wrong for the public" Thanks to all who participated, especially Marta and Matt for sticking with it to the end! | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 146 Registered: 1-2011 |
Wow :-) Great puzzle, I like it! | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11037 Registered: 4-2010 |
Great puzzle! |
