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Doriana (Doriana)
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Until recently, I had a scrund about the spelling of a certain word. This word exists in several languages (spelled slightly differently). It's a very common word that you often see in newspapers etc, but somehow I always misread it.
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is the word a noun? verb? adjective? adverb? article? conjunction? interjection?
Doriana (Doriana)
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is the word a noun? this verb? adjective? adverb? article? conjunction? interjection?
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Is it found in: German? English? Italian? Spanish? Portuguese? French? Russian? Greek? Other?
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Forgot something: is it a proper noun? Does it refers to politics? Geography? Weather? Time?
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cheeseburger? :-D oh wait, it can't be that...
Doriana (Doriana)
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Is it found in: German? English? Italian? Spanish? Portuguese? French? Russian? Greek? Other? all of them except for Greek. It's of Latin origin and you can also find it in other Slavic, Romance and Germanic languages

Forgot something: is it a proper noun? no Does it refers to politics? usually this one Geography? Weather? Time?
Doriana (Doriana)
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cheeseburger? :-D oh wait, it can't be that... lol, it's not cheeseburger and not Käseburger either
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Did you misread it in one specific language? In all languages?

Is it a name of a public building? (Like the houses of parliament?) Of a public office (president for example)?

Does the scrund relate to doubling of consonants or vowels? Is the word's etymology relevant?
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Did you misread it in one specific language? In all languages? this

Is it a name of a public building? (Like the houses of parliament?) Of a public office (president for example)? no to both

Does the scrund relate to doubling of consonants or vowels? no Is the word's etymology relevant? no
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Politics...does the word refer to elections? Certain people?
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Politics...does the word refer to elections? often Certain people? please clarify
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Does it refer to candidates? Active politicians? Former politicians? Voters?
Doriana (Doriana)
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Does it refer to candidates? this... Active politicians? Former politicians? Voters?
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Incumbents?
Doriana (Doriana)
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Incumbents? I've never heard that word before, lol. So... no
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Candidates of a certain party? Returning candidates? New candidates? Dark-horse candidates?

Incumbent candidates are candidates who are currently in power - for instance, assuming Barack Obama runs for U.S. president in 2012, he will be the incumbent, since he is currently president.
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Candidates of a certain party? Returning candidates? New candidates? Dark-horse candidates? could be all of them - think simpler!

Incumbent candidates are candidates who are currently in power - for instance, assuming Barack Obama runs for U.S. president in 2012, he will be the incumbent, since he is currently president. Thanks for the explanation! It seems to be an exclusively English word, at least it doesn't exist in German or French.
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Now that is a sort of puzzle for which brute force attacks come in handy, along the lines of : "Is the word [LTPF list of integers] long? Does it start with [LTPF list of letters of the Latin alphabet]? The second letter is [LTPF list of letters of the Latin alphabet]?" Etc... :-)

Is the noun referring to a material object? An idea? Is it an abstract noun? Is it refering to the moment when the new candidates are sworn in? Constitution relevant?
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Is the noun referring to a material object? this An idea? Is it an abstract noun? Is it refering to the moment when the new candidates are sworn in? no Constitution relevant? no

No brute force attacks please! Especially because you're so close to the solution. Your thinking is just way too lateral and difficult right now.
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Male candidates? Female candidates? Well-known candidates? Little-known candidates? Celebrity candidates? All candidates? Candidates for a certain political position?
Doriana (Doriana)
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Male candidates? Female candidates? Well-known candidates? Little-known candidates? Celebrity candidates? All candidates? this, because... Candidates for a certain political position?
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Is the word "candidate"?
Doriana (Doriana)
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Is the word "candidate"? oh yes.
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Did you think that candidates were candid? When in fact they tend to, well, not be?
Doriana (Doriana)
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Did you think that candidates were candid? When in fact they tend to, well, not be? that too, but that would be another scrund, lol. The only relevant thing is the spelling of "candidates"
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Did you think the word was spelled with a K instead of a C? That any of the letters were doubled? Were not there? Were changed?

Did you think it was something like "candy-dates"?
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Did you think the word was spelled with a K instead of a C? In fact, it is spelled with a K in German so that I could have had that scrund as well, but no That any of the letters were doubled? no Were not there? this Were changed? no

Did you think it was something like "candy-dates"? sounds nice, but no
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Did you think the word was "candates"?

In your scrund, was the word missing one letter? 2? 3? 4? More?
Doriana (Doriana)
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Did you think the word was "candates"? close

In your scrund, was the word missing one letter? this - a consonant 2? 3? 4? More?
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Cadidate? Canidate? Candiate? Candidae? Andidate?

It doesn't make sense, though
Doriana (Doriana)
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Cadidate? Canidate? this Candiate? Candidae? Andidate?

Nice work, it's time for the

********SPOILER********
I used to think that the word "candidate" (or "Kandidat" in German) was spelled withouth the d in the middle. And even now that I know the correct spelling, I don't hear the d sound.

I just googled it, and the Merriam-Webster Dictionary lists the pronunciation without the d sound as a possibility: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/candidate - so it does make sense (;
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"Canidate": something young adolescents ask their parents when they want to go out with someone for the first time.

I've never actually heard it pronounced "canidate" before, but thinking about it, I could see where that pronunciation might come into play.

Nice puzzle, doriana kitteh! Or rather...niys puzzl, doriana kitteh!
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Nice puzzle, Doriana. Thinking now, even here it tends to be pronounced as "cannidate", but I wasn't aware that this might be a widespread tendency.

I should have thought though, because your puzzle about "all Germans must know each other" was an early warning! :-)
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hmmmm...until I read this puzzle...I didn't realize I had the same scrund...LOL! Thanks for clearing that up!

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