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Peter365 (Peter365)
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Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 10:20 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Good morning puzzlers

She found it strange that I ate the protection.


Please explain this puzzle statement
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I= you, Peter365?
She= H? A? F? Is her profession relevant?
Is time relevant? Is location?
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I = you, Peter365? Yes
She= H? A? F? Human Female Child/teen Is her profession relevant? No see above
Is time relevant? No Is location? No
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Did you actually eat something? Physically chewing with your teeth and swallowing it?

Was protection covering something edible? Was the protection itself also edible? and she just didn't know that?
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"Protection" - some part of a food? A wrapper?
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Did you actually eat something? Yes Physically chewing with your teeth and swallowing it? Indeed

Was protection covering something edible? Yes Was the protection itself also edible? Yes good question and she just didn't know that? Yes this is going to go quickly

"Protection" - some part of a food? Yes A wrapper? No
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Were you eating a fruit? And she expected you to peel it first? If so, apple? pear? kiwi? other?
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Adding to the list of fruits - apple? Potato? Lime? Lemon? Orange? Grapefruit? Grape?
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Were you eating a fruit? And she expected you to peel it first? If so, apple? pear? kiwi? other? no to all
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Adding to the list of fruits - apple? Potato? Lime? Lemon? Orange? Grapefruit? Grape? Adding to list of no's I'm afraid.
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Were you eating a vegetable? Was the protection used as something usually not edible, but in this case made from edible material (like rice paper instead of normal paper)?
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Were you eating a vegetable? No Was the protection used as something usually not edible, but in this case made from edible material (like rice paper instead of normal paper)? no nothing like that. It was a perfectly edible item
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Was the food item a candy? Dessert? Bread? Pasta? Dairy? Meat? Fish? *tries to remember the food groups from 2nd grade* Poultry?
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Was the food item a candy? Dessert? Bread? This Pasta? Dairy? Meat? Fish? *tries to remember the food groups from 2nd grade* Poultry?
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Did she think you had to cut off the crust first?
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Just to clarify: bread is what the word "protection" refers to? Or bread is the edible item inside protection?
Was it the whole bread or bread as a part of the other dish? Sandwiches relevant? The fact that soup is sometimes served in the loaf of bread relevant?
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Did she think you had to cut off the crust first? No but very much in the right ballpark

Just to clarify: bread is what the word "protection" refers to? Yes...but Or bread is the edible item inside protection? Yes it's both things which is all you really need to solve
Was it the whole bread or bread as a part of the other dish? Well I was making a sandwich but not really relevant Sandwiches relevant? See above The fact that soup is sometimes served in the loaf of bread relevant? No

Next post will spoyle I fancy
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Did the young lady have a habit of eating only the inside, soft part of bread? I know some parents prepare it like this for the children...
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Did the young lady have a habit of eating only the inside, soft part of bread? I know some parents prepare it like this for the children...Sort of along the right lines but there's more to this than not eating the crusts
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Is the "protection" the crust? Did she always cut the crust off bread before eating it? And dispose of the crust? Or feed it to the birds (or other animals)?
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Is the heel of the loaf relevant? as it's usually used to protect the middle slices from drying out?
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Was the crust burnt (perhaps it was a toasted sandwich)?
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Is the "protection" the crust? Did she always cut the crust off bread before eating it? And dispose of the crust? Or feed it to the birds (or other animals)? No to all

Is the heel of the loaf relevant? Yes as it's usually used to protect the middle slices from drying out? Yes but I had never heard this put like this before

Was the crust burnt (perhaps it was a toasted sandwich)? No

That'll do

******************SPOILER*******************

Kalira's post has basically solved and put me in a bit of a spot. My daughter's classmate was having tea in our house over the Christmas period. I love the heel of the loaf and I was making a sandwich with both heels (I'm the only person in my house that eat's them). The classmate exclaimed in a shocked voice "Why are you eating the bread protector" . This struck my family and I as hilarious as we'd never heard the heel so described.

What worries me is that Kalira has put forward the same theory that a heel is not for eating but merely to keep the slices fresh. Please tell me I haven't been eating a scrund for nigh on 40 years.

Actually my favourite brand of sliced bread have started including a bread sliced shape of card paper which is definitely intended as a "bread protector" and yet these loaves still have two heels.

All opinions on this matter of life and death topic are welcome


Cheers
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I like eating the heel, too. Even if they're merely meant as bread protectors, I can't imagine there's anything wrong with eating them.
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I eat the heel too, but I always eat both heels together, usually as toast or a sandwich. Or a toasted sandwich. No scrund this time!
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I also like the heels. Around here they are called what in English can be translated as "corners". There's also a rather popular saying (of unknown origin) that the people who like to eat them will get along very well with their mother-in-law. I can testify from experience that heels (aka "corners") are good and also that the saying's truthfulness is doubtful :-)

Nice puzzle, Peter.
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You mean the ends? Or is this some slang I don't know.
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I think so, Mr. Coke. I didn't know some people called them "heels" either. As a kid, I always preferred the slices in the middle, but now I don't care.
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I have never heard of using the heels as "bread protectors". Amazing.

We call them "Knützchen", which is probably the most German looking word I've ever seen.
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It's always been referred to as the "heels" or the "ends" in my house, and I've never liked them. I know they keep the bread inside from drying out a bit, but I never consciously thought of them as "bread protectors". What an amazing excuse for why I shouldn't eat them! *grin* Long live the bread protectors! Well, not live...just not get eaten :-D By me, anyway.
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Like Kaylee, I don't really think of them as "bread protectors" consciously, but in my house (and many of my friends'), you used them to keep the middle slices from drying out, then ate them as the last two slices of bread. This usually helped because when the slicer thingie cuts the bread, the heels/ends are generally not as thick as the other slices, so they weren't as "good" as the middle, breadier slices (in our childhood minds). Plus, they were already crusty, so the crust end of the heel doesn't dry out as much as a bready side of a middle slice would. So we ate them, just after the rest of the loaf.

Now what I want to know is, who are all these people who freeze their loaves of bread? What's up with that??
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I don't know what's up with it, but my mom does it, for some reason. :-( That makes me forget the bread exists. *keeps my raisin bread in the refrigerator*
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Also, re: the card paper "bread protector," I find myself reacting badly to that... while I can be pretty sure that basically nobody has touched/manhandled the bread since it was cut, I don't know where that card paper (is that like what west-of-the-ponders call cardstock? or cardboard?) has been. I think I'd be weirded out by whatever germs might be on it, while the bread loaf itself is more of a closed system, germwise. (Apparently I put way too much thought into that.)
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My mom freezes loaves of bread as well. I don't get it either.
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I call them both "heels," but my sister has gotten into the strange habit of calling the first one (the one at the open end of the bag) the "heel" but the second one the "butt." I have no idea where she picked that habit up from, because I've never heard another person say it, and I think it's hilarious that she distinguishes between the two, because they're identical.
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Ask her, Noel. I'm extremely curious now. *grin*
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We called them crusts - I know that's the bit around each other slice, but it's part of the same whole surround.
I have curly hair because I ate mine.
I do keep the crust over the other slices to keep them fresher nowadays, but I also tie the bag with those clips which also helps.
If we were cutting an unsliced loaf, the end bit would actually be the biggest and then that would be lathered with butter.
Without Lipitor I would have much higher cholesterol.
I did a puzzle once about health problems in later life due to teeth marks. i.e. I always liked my butter thick enough to see teeth marks in it.
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Wow this silly puzzle certainly prompted a lot of debate.

My Mother always said that eating the heel would make my hair curly and unfortunately she was right. If I let my hair grow for too long it goes horribly kinky so I have it 2 bladed every 4 weeks. It does make me look a bit like one of "America's most wanted" but preferable to curly hair in my opinion especially now that I'm going grey.

My wife is one of those people who puts loaves of bread in the freezer much to my bemusement. I simply cannot see the logic in doing this. I mean buy a fresh loaf every day I say.

With regard to teeth marks in butter , my Granny used to give us a slice of home made soda bread with about an inch thick of butter on it and then just to make it completely unhealthy dipped it in a bowl of sugar. Not good for the teeth but completely yummy.

Thanks for all your comments, they certainly gave me a chuckle.
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Peter, I had to google "soda bread" - but that sounds yummy!

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