| Author | Message | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11109 Registered: 4-2010 |
Their perfect plan was ruined by a hinge. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 2685 Registered: 9-2010 |
Did the plan include leaving your name out of the title? :-P "Their" = H/A/M? H/A/F? 2? More? LTPF list of integers? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11110 Registered: 4-2010 |
Naturally, I forgot my name in the title. Could a mod remedy this please? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11111 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did the plan include leaving your name out of the title? :-P No; that's only the second time I've done that. Let's hope there's no pattern here. "Their" = H/A/M? H/A/F? 2? More? LTPF list of integers? 2 people, both HAM. | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 387 Registered: 12-2010 |
Time relevant? Location? Their ages? education? Relationship? Occupations? Did they want to commit a crime? Other relevant people in this puzzle? Victims= Is one of them you? Hinge - part of a door? A window? Can we call them Phineas and Ferb? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11116 Registered: 4-2010 |
Time relevant? Yes Location? Yope Their ages? Young adults education? Relationship? Occupations? These three are not, but... Did they want to commit a crime? Oh yes Other relevant people in this puzzle? Yes Victims= Yes, one Is one of them you? No Hinge - part of a door? A window? Neither Can we call them Phineas and Ferb? Sure | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 390 Registered: 12-2010 |
[LTPF of continents] and [LTPF of centuries], please. The victim - H/A/M? F? Anything else relevant about him/her? The crime - theft? robbery? murder? kidnapping? rape? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11121 Registered: 4-2010 |
[LTPF of continents] and [LTPF of centuries], please. North America, 20th century The victim - H/A/M? HTM, I think F? Anything else relevant about him/her? No The crime - theft? robbery? murder? This kidnapping? rape? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 405 Registered: 12-2010 |
Relevant why they wanted to kill him? Is the hinge a physical object? Does it connect two things? Or more like a metaphor? Did they commit a crime? And were caught later? Or didn't they commit it in the first place? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11144 Registered: 4-2010 |
Relevant why they wanted to kill him? Yope - see the puzzle statement Is the hinge a physical object? Yes Does it connect two things? Two parts of one thing Or more like a metaphor? No, it's a physical hinge Did they commit a crime? Yes And were caught later? Yes Or didn't they commit it in the first place? So no | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 223 Registered: 1-2011 |
Time of a day relevant? If so: morning? noon? afternoon? evening? night? Is it a true story? Did their plan involve hinge at all? Or they didn't expect the hinge? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11149 Registered: 4-2010 |
Time of a day relevant? No If so: morning? noon? afternoon? evening? night? Afternoon, but irrel Is it a true story? Yes Did their plan involve hinge at all? Noish Or they didn't expect the hinge? Yopish | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 2720 Registered: 9-2010 |
For want of a nail the shoe was lost? For want of a shoe the horse was lost? For want of a horse the rider was lost? For want of a rider the battle was lost? For want of a battle the kingdom was lost? And all for the want of a horseshoe nail? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11152 Registered: 4-2010 |
For want of a nail the shoe was lost? For want of a shoe the horse was lost? For want of a horse the rider was lost? For want of a rider the battle was lost? For want of a battle the kingdom was lost? And all for the want of a horseshoe nail? It was, but nails aren't relevant in this puzzle (other than in the title). | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 228 Registered: 1-2011 |
Did the hinge thing show up after the murder had been committed? Did everything went as it was planned with the murder part of the plan? and went worse in the "getting away with it" part of plan? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11156 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did the hinge thing show up after the murder had been committed? Yes, DOYD of "show up" Did everything went as it was planned with the murder part of the plan? Yesish and went worse in the "getting away with it" part of plan? Yes | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4502 Registered: 5-2003 |
Is the hinge part of a box or case? A weapon? A vehicle? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11169 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the hinge part of a box or case? A weapon? A vehicle? No to all | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4507 Registered: 5-2003 |
Is the hinge microscopic? Visible? Larger than a fingernail? A finger? A hand? A breadbox? Is it made from metal? Wood? something else? Is it man-made? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11177 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the hinge microscopic? No, but it's very small Visible? Yes Larger than a fingernail? A finger? A hand? A breadbox? Smaller than all of these Is it made from metal? This, I think Wood? something else? Is it man-made? Yes | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4516 Registered: 5-2003 |
Did they hide a dead body in something that could be opened by a hinge? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3626 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did the hinge: move? Break? Make a relevant noise? Did the hinged part fall off? Evidence left at the scene of the crime relevant? Or left somewhere else? Was the hinge on a pocket watch? Or locket? Did the hinged thing belong to the victim? One of the perpetrators? Someone else? Relevant? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 239 Registered: 1-2011 |
Did the hinge work properly, as the hinge should work? If so: was the plan ruined simply by the presence of the hinge at the time and place? Did the hinge malfunction somehow? If so: was the plan ruined by a malfunction of the hinge? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11204 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did they hide a dead body in something that could be opened by a hinge? No Did the hinge: move? No Break? No Make a relevant noise? No Did the hinged part fall off? No Evidence left at the scene of the crime relevant? Very yes Or left somewhere else? Was the hinge on a pocket watch? No but OTRT Or locket? Ditto Did the hinged thing belong to the victim? One of the perpetrators? This! Someone else? Relevant? Very Did the hinge work properly, as the hinge should work? Yes but irrel If so: was the plan ruined simply by the presence of the hinge at the time and place? Yes, DOYD of "presence" - see above Did the hinge malfunction somehow? No If so: was the plan ruined by a malfunction of the hinge? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 2763 Registered: 9-2010 |
was the hinge on something wearable? a locket? a necklace or bracelet clasp? a piercing of some sort? something bigger? glasses? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11227 Registered: 4-2010 |
was the hinge on something wearable? Yes... a locket? a necklace or bracelet clasp? a piercing of some sort? something bigger? glasses? ...this!! | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 2765 Registered: 9-2010 |
sunglasses? prescription glasses? for reading? far away? bifocals? is that even relevant? so did the hinge break? ruining their perfect plan somehow? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11228 Registered: 4-2010 |
sunglasses? prescription glasses? for reading? far away? bifocals? They were just ordinary eyeglasses; whether for near- or farsightedness is irrel is that even relevant? so did the hinge break? No ruining their perfect plan somehow? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11229 Registered: 4-2010 |
Well, they were almost just ordinary eyeglasses - I can't say more though, else I give it away, which I may have just done anyway. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 2766 Registered: 9-2010 |
North America: Canada? USA? Mexico? Other parts of N. America? 20th century: The Edwardian Era? WWI? The Roaring Twenties? The Great Depression? WWII? The Fifties? The Sixties? The Seventies? The Eighties? The Nineties? Turn of the Millenium? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11230 Registered: 4-2010 |
North America: Canada? USA? Mexico? Other parts of N. America? 20th century: The Edwardian Era? WWI? The Roaring Twenties? The Great Depression? WWII? The Fifties? The Sixties? The Seventies? The Eighties? The Nineties? Turn of the Millenium? USA, 1920s | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 2767 Registered: 9-2010 |
1920? 1921? 1922? 1923? 1924? 1925? 1926? 1927? 1928? 1929? AL? AK? AZ? AR? CA? CO? CT? DE? FL? GA? HI? ID? IL? IN? IA? KS? KY? LA? ME? MD? MA? MI? MN? MS? MO? MT? NE? NV? NH? NJ? NM? NY? NC? ND? OH? OK? OR? PA? RI? SC? SD? TN? TX? UT? VT? VA? WA? WV? WI? WY? (And yes, I am perfectly aware that not all of these were states in the 1920's...I just can't remember which ones were not, other than Arizona, Alaska, and Hawaii) | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 2768 Registered: 9-2010 |
(oh wait, never mind. *headdesk* Arizona was 1912, so that just leaves Alaska and Hawaii. Sorry, any Arizona residents I offended :-( ) | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11234 Registered: 4-2010 |
Cropping list - 1924, Illinois. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 2769 Registered: 9-2010 |
Leopold and Loeb? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11237 Registered: 4-2010 |
Leopold and Loeb? Yes... **********SPOILER********** Nathan Leopold and Richard Loeb were Nietzschean "supermen" who desired to commit a perfect crime. On May 21, 1924, they murdered a 14-year-old boy by bludgeoning him with a chisel and asphyxiating him with a sock, before hiding the body (and pouring hydrochloric acid over it), sending a random note, and disposing of all evidence. However, a policeman found a pair of eyeglasses at the scene with a unique hinge mechanism. Only three people in the Chicago area had that type of hinge on their glasses; one of them was Leopold. That evidence ruined their perfect crime, and eventually led to their arrest and imprisonment. Nice work, y'all. | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3228 Registered: 1-2007 |
Nice puzzle Balin . Leopold and Loeb is certainly one of the strangest murder cases that I've come across. The Wiki article that Kaylee linked to does not mention a fact that I'm sure I've read somewhere namely that Bobby Franks was not their prime target and was a classic case of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. I'm open to correction on this point as the wiki article suggests that he was the intended victim. I would loved to have heard Clarence Darrow make his closing arguement. It's supposed to be the most dramatic address ever made in court and I believe he reduced the judge to tears on one occasion. He was an amazing man. |
