| Author | Message | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6534 Registered: 8-2001 |
Nilsa admitted to the police that she had murdered her husband, but she expected to go free, even though she did not claim self-defense or diminished responsibility and she was expecting her case to be handled fairly. How come? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1052 Registered: 12-2010 |
Is Nilsa H? A? F? Had she actually murdered her husband? If so, is it relevant how? Is any of the following relevant: Nilsa's age? religious background? ethnic background? education? physical appearance? character traits? profession? her husband's age? religious background? ethnic background? education? physical appearance? character traits? profession? Time/location relevant? Is the time span between her killing him and her admitting it relevant? Had she committed other crimes? Had her husband? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6536 Registered: 8-2001 |
Doriana (Doriana) New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1052 Registered: 12-2010 Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2011 - 11:40 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is Nilsa H? A? F? Had she actually murdered her husband? yes If so, is it relevant how? no Is any of the following relevant: Nilsa's age? religious background? ethnic background? education? physical appearance? character traits? profession? all irrel her husband's age? religious background? ethnic background? education? physical appearance? character traits? profession? all irrel Time/location relevant?yesish Is the time span between her killing him and her admitting it relevant? no Had she committed other crimes? no Had her husband? no | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1054 Registered: 12-2010 |
Is the country relevant? If yes, [LTPF list of continents & countries], please. Is it relevant where they were when she murdered him? Indoors? Outdoors? In a vehicle? At home? Is it relevant at what time of day the murder happened? What time of year? Same questions for her admitting it. Is it relevant how Nilsa admitted it? Did she go to a police station? Did she call a police station? Did she know any of the policemen/officers? Is anything else about the police relevant? Is the wording of what she said relevant? Would the puzzle work if she had murdered her child? robbed a bank? Are there any witnesses? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12913 Registered: 4-2010 |
Double jeopardy relevant? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 535 Registered: 8-2001 |
Is her profession relevant? Was it during a war/revolution/civil unrest? Was it illegal for her to kill her husband? You missed this Q of Doriana's: Is Nilsa H? A? F? Is her husband H? A? M? Based on a true story? From your imagination? Fictional source? Time period - Now-ish? 20th century? 19th? (insert more centuries here) Ancient History? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6540 Registered: 8-2001 |
Doriana (Doriana) New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1054 Registered: 12-2010 Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2011 - 11:50 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is the country relevant? If yes, [LTPF list of continents & countries], please. I know it could happen in the US, I';m not sure about elsewhere Is it relevant where they were when she murdered him? Indoors? Outdoors? In a vehicle? At home? Is it relevant at what time of day the murder happened? What time of year? Same questions for her admitting it. All are irrel Is it relevant how Nilsa admitted it? Did she go to a police station? Did she call a police station? Did she know any of the policemen/officers? Is anything else about the police relevant? Is the wording of what she said relevant? All are irrel Would the puzzle work if she had murdered her child? robbed a bank? yes to both Are there any witnesses? Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12913 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2011 - 1:07 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Double jeopardy relevant? yesish Vesica (Vesica) New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 535 Registered: 8-2001 Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2011 - 6:15 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is her profession relevant? no Was it during a war/revolution/civil unrest? no Was it illegal for her to kill her husband? yes You missed this Q of Doriana's: Is Nilsa H? A? F? yes to all Is her husband H? A? M? yes yo all Based on a true story? no From your imagination? no Fictional source? yes Time period - Now-ish? 20th century? 19th? (insert more centuries here) Ancient History? could be any time in US; I don't know about elsewhere | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1078 Registered: 12-2010 |
Is something about the US criminal justice system relevant? Had she been accused of murder before? And was found not guilty? | ||
| Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
New member Username: Gregoryuconn Post Number: 1014 Registered: 9-2010 |
About to email you a pssible $poilr | ||
| Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
New member Username: Gregoryuconn Post Number: 1015 Registered: 9-2010 |
From the email I sent to Nimue, who has asked me to spoil this: On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Gregory Koch <gregory.koch@uconn.edu> wrote: Would the solution by any chance be based on the "Double Jeopardy" rule that no person can be tried twice for the same crime? If so, I've heard it before but assuming it's the variant I've heard where she's convicted but he's not dead and then she kills him when she gets out of jail, then that clause would not apply, although I've heard it said (falsely) that it does. It only applies when it's the same crime. Otherwise, if I was sent to prison for robbing a bank, and then I robbed said bank again, I couldn't go to jail again for it. But many people swear such an occurrence is possible. By the way, I think that appeared in one of Paul Sloane's books, but I don't know which one. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12981 Registered: 4-2010 |
I was thinking the same thing; that's why I asked about double jeopardy. | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 784 Registered: 9-2008 |
I think that was part of an Ashley Judd/Tommy Lee Jones movie several years ago, huh? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6548 Registered: 8-2001 |
Doriana (Doriana) New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1078 Registered: 12-2010 Posted on Friday, April 08, 2011 - 9:31 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is something about the US criminal justice system relevant? yes Had she been accused of murder before? yes And was found not guilty? no Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn) New member Username: Gregoryuconn Post Number: 1014 Registered: 9-2010 Posted on Friday, April 08, 2011 - 10:10 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) About to email you a pssible $poilr you got it! See below Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn) New member Username: Gregoryuconn Post Number: 1015 Registered: 9-2010 Posted on Friday, April 08, 2011 - 10:37 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) From the email I sent to Nimue, who has asked me to spoil this: On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Gregory Koch <gregory.koch@uconn.edu> wrote: Would the solution by any chance be based on the "Double Jeopardy" rule that no person can be tried twice for the same crime? If so, I've heard it before but assuming it's the variant I've heard where she's convicted but he's not dead and then she kills him when she gets out of jail, then that clause would not apply, although I've heard it said (falsely) that it does. It only applies when it's the same crime. Otherwise, if I was sent to prison for robbing a bank, and then I robbed said bank again, I couldn't go to jail again for it. But many people swear such an occurrence is possible. By the way, I think that appeared in one of Paul Sloane's books, but I don't know which one. That's basically it.See below Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12981 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Friday, April 08, 2011 - 10:40 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) I was thinking the same thing; that's why I asked about double jeopardy. Kaygee (Kaygee) New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 784 Registered: 9-2008 Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2011 - 4:56 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) I think that was part of an Ashley Judd/Tommy Lee Jones movie several years ago, huh? I don't know; I got it from "Law & Order." *** SPOILER *************** 10 years ago, Nilsa's husband disappeared under suspicious circumstances. Nilsa was convicted of murdering him, although his body was never found. A few years later, it became evident why his body was never found: He was not dead. So Nilsa was released. Then she murdered him & claimed she could not be punished, because she already had been punished. By the way, although the "Law & Order" episode I got this from used double jeopardy, I think that a more interesting defense would be "The time I served for an offense I didn't commit should count toward the time I serve for an offense I did commit." This principle would apply even if the wrongful conviction had been for a completely different sort of crime, but it would would have the undesirable result of letting the wrongly convicted commit later crimes with impunity.By the way, I had no idea that this puzzle was in one of Paul's books. As I said, I got ion from "Law & Order." Please see my new puzzle you know where. |
