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Nimue (Nimue)
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Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2011 - 12:35 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

When Celinette uses a common phrase to describe her activities, people think, well, that activity is something we all do. They overlook the fact that Celinette's phrase can have a much more sinister sense. What is it?
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Are her activities illegal? dangerous? Do they involve a loss of life? injury? property loss?
Nimue (Nimue)
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Are her activities illegal? yesdangerous? IOnly insofar as an illegal activity endangers her liberty because she could go to prison for it Do they involve a loss of life? noinjury? no property loss? no
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Is her crime a felony or misdemeanor? Is it considered serious by most people? Does it involve fraud? prostitution? illegal drugs?
Nimue (Nimue)
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Is her crime a felony or misdemeanor? felonyIs it considered serious by most people? yes Does it involve fraud? yes prostitution? no illegal drugs? no
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Does it have anything to do with conning people?
Money laundering?
False representation?
Creative accounting?
Nimue (Nimue)
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Does it have anything to do with conning people? yes
Money laundering? no
False representation? yes
Creative accounting? noish
Balin (Balin)
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Does she con a lot of people?

Does she perform a "professional" con? A street hustle?
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Does she con a lot of people?possibly

Does she perform a "professional" con? yes or yesish A street hustle? no
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Does she represent herself as a police officer?
Judge?
City Employee?
A security guard?
Someone in the medical field?
Does she pretend to need help?
Be doing a job?
Helping/rescuing someone else?
Stopping a crime?

Is this a one man con?
Two man? More than two people involved?
Can she con multiple people at one time?

Does the con involve exchanging a good or service for money?
A promise of a good or service?
Is this con performed at a bank? An ATM?
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Does she represent herself as a police officer?
Judge?
City Employee?
A security guard?
Someone in the medical field?
Does she pretend to need help?
Be doing a job?
Helping/rescuing someone else?
Stopping a crime? no to all

Is this a one man con? irrel
Two man?ditto More than two people involved? ditto
Can she con multiple people at one time? yes

Does the con involve exchanging a good or service for money? yes
A promise of a good or service? ossibly
Is this con performed at a bank?possibly An ATM? no
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Does the con involve selling something for much higher value than it has?

Does she represent herself as a dealer or expert in the item she exchanges?

An art dealer? Antiques? Jewelry? Precious metals? Stones?

Can it be done at any location?

Do goods actually change hands? Or does she promise something in exchange for money that she never delivers?

Is a contract involved?
Nimue (Nimue)
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Does the con involve selling something for much higher value than it has? yope

Does she represent herself as a dealer or expert in the item she exchanges? no

An art dealer? Antiques? Jewelry? Precious metals? Stones? no to all

Can it be done at any location? yes

Do goods actually change hands? yesish Or does she promise something in exchange for money that she never delivers? no

Is a contract involved? no
Vesica (Vesica)
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Posted on Thursday, April 14, 2011 - 8:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So when Celinette uses the phrase, is she accurately describing what she does?
But people don't pick up on it, assuming the more innocuous meaning?

Is she a laundress?
Nimue (Nimue)
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Vesica (Vesica)
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So when Celinette uses the phrase, is she accurately describing what she does? yes
But people don't pick up on it, assuming the more innocuous meaning? yes

Is she a laundress? no
Redwine (Redwine)
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Posted on Friday, April 15, 2011 - 9:49 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does Celinette represent herself as a legal representative of the company? or bank?

Does her crime involve forgery?
Is anybody physically hurt by her crime?
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do credit or debit cards change hands?

do her victims hand over the keys to their car?

does she steal their identity?
Nimue (Nimue)
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Does Celinette represent herself as a legal representative of the company? no or bank? no

Does her crime involve forgery? yes or yesish
Is anybody physically hurt by her crime? no--except maybe very indirectly
Shez (Shez)
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do credit or debit cards change hands? no

do her victims hand over the keys to their car? no

does she steal their identity? no
Twilightseeker (Twilightseeker)
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Does she make counterfeit money? Does she forge signatures? Make "fake" things that people think are valuable, such as paintings or other art?
Nimue (Nimue)
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Does she make counterfeit money? YES!!! So now it should be a SNAP to guess the ambiguous phrase she uses to describe her activity! Does she forge signatures? see above Make "fake" things that people think are valuable, such as paintings or other art? see above
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"making money"?
Nimue (Nimue)
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Shez (Shez)
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"making money"?YES!!

******** SPOILER **************
Most adults "make money," but counterfeiters go to prison for doing so! Please go to the bottom of the page for my new puzzle.
Vesica (Vesica)
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Hee! Very clever!
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Posted on Saturday, April 16, 2011 - 8:40 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Awesome puzzle. That's very fun.
Shez (Shez)
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Posted on Saturday, April 16, 2011 - 10:43 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

groan! I think we were all really dim, that's what makes it so good!

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