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Noel (Noel)
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Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2011 - 9:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

He definitely had not expected to hear "yeah, we know."
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He = HAM?

Did he hear it from one person? More than one? Did the person/s talk directly to him? face-to-face? on a phone?

Did he say something relevant to the person/s before he got that reply?
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Was the response to something he said?
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He = HAM? yes
Did he hear it from one person? yes More than one? but there was probably more than one involved on the other end. Not really relevant, though Did the person/s talk directly to him? face-to-face? on a phone? this
Did he say something relevant to the person/s before he got that reply? yes
Was the response to something he said? yes
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Did he insult the people on the other end? and they admitted their fault by saying that? or did they actually know information he didn't expect them to know?
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Did he insult the people on the other end? no and they admitted their fault by saying that? so no or did they actually know information he didn't expect them to know? yes
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Did he tell personal information? A secret?
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Did he tell personal information? A secret? neither of these
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Did he ask something? Try to relay information to the other person?

Is their relationship relevant? Colleagues? Friends? relatives? do they know each other at all before this?
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Did he ask something? no Try to relay information to the other person? yes

Is their relationship relevant? yes, very Colleagues? Friends? relatives? none of these do they know each other at all before this? no
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Person on the other end: H? A? M?
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Was there an emergency situation? Did he call to get help?

Is it relevant if he called from a landline or mobile phone? GPS relevant?

Was either of them the customer of the other person?
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Person on the other end: H? A? M? yes, yes, gender irrel, but more likely to be M than F

Was there an emergency situation? Did he call to get help? yes to both

Is it relevant if he called from a landline or mobile phone? yes - mobile GPS relevant? no

Was either of them the customer of the other person? No one in this puzzle is a customer of anyone else in this puzzle.
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Did the emergency services already know about the emergency? Relevant the exact nature of the emergency?
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So the other person was a 911 dispatcher, correct?

Was he in danger? Was someone else? Did he witness something? Is a car accident relevant? A break-in? A holdup? A fire?
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which emergency service was he after - police? fire? ambulance?

was he phoning to report a very unusual incident? or was his surprise becaue he assumed he'd be the first to report it?
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Did the emergency services already know about the emergency? yes Relevant the exact nature of the emergency? yes

So the other person was a 911 dispatcher, correct? the way I heard it made it sound like he called the police directly

Was he in danger? yes Was someone else? yes Did he witness something? no Is a car accident relevant? A break-in? this one A holdup? A fire?

which emergency service was he after - police? this one fire? ambulance?

was he phoning to report a very unusual incident? no or was his surprise because he assumed he'd be the first to report it? yes
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Had people already called the police? Had other witnesses? The robbers themselves? The victims of the break-in?
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Had people already called the police? yes Had other witnesses? no The robbers themselves? yes! (but it's just one robber) The victims of the break-in? no
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had the robber got himself locked in? hurt himself? in some sort of predicament where he needed help?
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had the robber got himself locked in? he had locked a door, but would have had no problem unlocking it again hurt himself? no in some sort of predicament where he needed help? I don't know whether he was actually in danger, but he certainly thought he was, so I'll accept his judgement and say yes
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had he broken into somewhere where there was something dangerous? a wild animal?
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had he broken into somewhere where there was something dangerous? no a wild animal? no
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Since we're getting into having multiple "he's" now, let's call the robber "Robbie" and the original caller (the "he" the puzzle statement) "Colin." Hopefully those are pretty easy to remember and keep straight. =)
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did he not want to unlock the door?
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did he not want to unlock the door? correct
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was he trying to keep something in? out? somebody in? out?

was he frightened?

was he stuck?
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was he trying to keep something in? out? somebody in? out? this one

was he frightened? yes

was he stuck? no
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I think I may know this one so I shall tread carefully.

So Robbie called 911?
Because he was frightened?
Did he lock the door before he was scared?
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Did the homeowners come home early? Did Robbie feel like he was in danger?
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Vesica - it was in the news within the last month or so, although it was definitely not a major news story. I heard about it on the NPR program "Wait Wait...Don't Tell Me," but I have no idea what news agency originally reported it

So Robbie called 911? yes
Because he was frightened? yes
Did he lock the door before he was scared? no

Did the homeowners come home early? yes, DOYD of early Did Robbie feel like he was in danger? yes
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Did Robbie feel threatened by the homeowners?

Did Robbie expect the homeowners to come home later than they did?
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Did Robbie feel threatened by the homeowners? yesish

Did Robbie expect the homeowners to come home later than they did? yes
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Did the homeowners discover Robbie in the house? Did they threaten him?
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Did the homeowners discover Robbie in the house? yesish/yope Did they threaten him? no
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Did they discover him outside the house?
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Did they discover him outside the house? hmm. yope?

Clarification on these last two posts. Robbie was in the house when discovered, but...
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Did he run away?
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did Robbie himself phone 911 to give himself up?

did someone else break in?
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Did he run away? no

did Robbie himself phone 911 to give himself up? this was a side effect of him phoning, but not his reason for it

did someone else break in? no
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Wait, did he think the homeowners were burglars and had also gotten the idea to break in, so he ran away from them and then they realized he was a burglar and then Robbie called 911 to report that the house had been broken into (thinking he could get off the hook and the "second burglars" would go to jail and he would seem like a good citizen) but since it was the owners they had already called 911?
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Wait... Is Colin one of the homeowners?
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Wait, did he think the homeowners were burglars and had also gotten the idea to break in, so he ran away from them and then they realized he was a burglar and then Robbie called 911 to report that the house had been broken into (thinking he could get off the hook and the "second burglars" would go to jail and he would seem like a good citizen) but since it was the owners they had already called 911? no, but fun story =)

Wait... Is Colin one of the homeowners? yes (technically, it's an apartment and he's a renter, but since the distinction is completely irrelevant to the situation, you can continue to call him a homeowner or you can switch to something like resident. All that's important is that he lives there.)
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Did some of the other residents call 911? Was Robbie a resident?
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Did some of the other residents call 911? no Was Robbie a resident? irrelevant
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Did Colin discover the crime when he came home?

Had Robbie been arrested already before Colin called 911?
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Did Colin discover the crime when he came home? yes

Had Robbie been arrested already before Colin called 911? no
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Did Colin discover Robbie himself?
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Did Colin discover Robbie himself? sorry, I'm not sure I understand the question. No one told him Robbie was there. Is that what you're asking?
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Rewording...Did Colin actually see Robbie in person? In the apartment? Hiding?
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Rewording... thank you Did Colin actually see Robbie in person? In the apartment? Hiding?
Good questions. No to all.
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Most of my puzzles are obscure news stories, so it is actually pretty likely I've seen this one. Your e-mail is hidden (as is mine actually) or I would e-mail my possible solution.

Is it relevant what room Robbie is locked in?
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Is it relevant what room Robbie is locked in? No, but it happened to be the bathroom.
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It must not be the same story, as it was relevant that it was the bathroom in the one I heard.

Was Robbie in the bathroom when Colin arrived home?
Did Colin threaten Robbie?
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PS, I've been trying to figure out a way to give you a clue about the answer to see whether you know it or not without giving it away to everyone else, but I can't think of one. I really don't want to list my email address, though. I'd say just keep participating until and unless you get to a point when you know that you've read/heard it. Just don't jump straight to the end any of the specific stories you know (as you've been careful not to do thus far).
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It must not be the same story, as it was relevant that it was the bathroom in the one I heard. Interesting. It doesn't seem particularly relevant to me in this story, but we'll see

Was Robbie in the bathroom when Colin arrived home? yes
Did Colin threaten Robbie? no
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Was he in Colin's bathroom?

Did Robbie call 911 to get him out of the bathroom?
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So Colin called 911?
To report that someone was in his home (apartment, whatever)?
And the dispatcher said "yeah, we know"?
Because Robbie had already called?

Did Colin let Robbie know he was there?
Shout through the door?
But he didn't threaten him?
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Was he in Colin's bathroom? yes

Did Robbie call 911 to get him out of the bathroom? no.

So Colin called 911?
To report that someone was in his home (apartment, whatever)?
And the dispatcher said "yeah, we know"?
Because Robbie had already called? yes to all

Did Colin let Robbie know he was there? not deliberately
Shout through the door? no
But he didn't threaten him? no

BLOOPER!
Was Robbie in the bathroom when Colin arrived home? I originally said yes, but yope is probably more accurate
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Did Robbie hide in the bathroom when Colin arrived home?

Was Robbie entirely inside the bathroom?
(I have this vision of a robber locking themselves in the bathroom, trying to escape through the window, and getting stuck...)

Also, oddly this does NOT seem to be the news blurb I'd seen, unless you are changing the details a lot.

Did Robbie call 911 before Colin arrived home?
Did Robbie call 911 to have the police come protect him from Colin?
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Did Robbie hide in the bathroom when Colin arrived home? yes

Was Robbie entirely inside the bathroom? yes
(I have this vision of a robber locking themselves in the bathroom, trying to escape through the window, and getting stuck...) no, he's not stuck in the window or anything else, and as far as I know, he never tried to leave out the window

Also, oddly this does NOT seem to be the news blurb I'd seen, unless you are changing the details a lot. good. how funny they're both about robbers in bathrooms!

Did Robbie call 911 before Colin arrived home? hmmm...yope? To resolve this yope and others, it will help to be more specific about what you mean by arriving home

Did Robbie call 911 to have the police come protect him from Colin? yesish or yope
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Did Colin leave home at some point?
Did Colin go somewhere, like the store or work?
Or was he simply outside?

Was Colin "home" when Robbie broke in?
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Okay, I found the story I had seen because I'm finding it hard to believe there are two of them. Mine was from about 2 months ago. Saved the link so we can have a good laugh if they are, in fact, different. But since I'm finding two or three versions of the story, I think they are the same. (Maybe, depending on your answers to my questions about Colin's whereabouts...)
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Also, this really threw me "but more likely to be M than F" - 911 operators are actually predominately female.
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Did Colin leave home at some point? yes
Did Colin go somewhere, like the store or work? I can't remember. I think he just went for a walk
Or was he simply outside? assume he's just out for a walk

Was Colin "home" when Robbie broke in? no

Also, this really threw me "but more likely to be M than F" - 911 operators are actually predominately female. Sorry, I was thinking of him calling the police directly, and police are predominantly male. But realistically, you're probably right, he probably did call 911.

Vesica, I just Googled "robber calls cops from bathroom" and the first several stories that came up are basically it (Robber name = Chapek), although some of the details (including the exact order of events) are different from the way I heard it (which is not surprising, given that my source was a comedic news quiz). I'm not sure why I didn't think to look up the robber's name before for you to compare. This puzzle is based on the way I heard and remember the story, not the sequence of events that are written in those news stories online, but it's very similar.

Obviously, no one else use Google on this one!
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Also, I can see why you said the bathroom was very relevant to the actual news story. In my version, though, he doesn't take a shower.
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Did Robbie hear Colin come in? And called 911 to report Colin breaking in? When it was really Robbie who'd broken in?
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Did Robbie hear Colin come in? no And called 911 to report Colin breaking in? no When it was really Robbie who'd broken in?
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I will bow out of this one, but when you get done, I have a link to a news vid that includes both calls. Pretty funny!!

Also GREAT puzzle! I was thinking of doing one myself based on this. It's funny how sometimes knowing the story (sort-of) hurts more than helps in the solving!
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Did Robbie try to break in through the bathroom?
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did another burglar break in between Robbie breaking in and Colin coming home?

did Robbie know Colin was arriving home before he actually walked in? like, he saw the car coming up the drive?

did Robbie phone to give himslef up before Colin could find him?
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Did Robbie try to break in through the bathroom? I don't know. Irrelevant

did Robbie know Colin was arriving home before he actually walked in? yes like, he saw the car coming up the drive? well, since you've already established that Colin was on a walk, Robbie actually saw Colin walk up the sidewalk, but close enough.

did Robbie phone to give himslef up before Colin could find him? not exactly, but sort of ORT
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did Robbie phone 911 because he was scared? or because he didn't want Colin to be scared?

did he want the police to know in case Colin came in and shot him?
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did Robbie phone 911 because he was scared? yes or because he didn't want Colin to be scared? no

did he want the police to know in case Colin came in and shot him? no
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Was he scared of Colin?
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Was he scared of Colin? yope!
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did he think Colin was someone else?
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did he think Colin was someone else? no
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I feel the need for a RECAP:

Colin left home and went for a walk. Meanwhile, Robbie broke into Colin's home.

Robbie saw Colin walking up the drive when he returned from his walk. He became afraid (only yopishly of Colin), thought he was in danger, locked himself in the bathroom, and called the police.

Colin had not threatened Robbie in any way, and Robbie was not trying to make sure the police would know what had happened if he were shot by Colin. He was not stuck in the bathroom or in a window. He never tried to escape the bathroom. The room he was in is irrelevant as long as whatever room it was could be locked from the inside.

Colin arrived at his home and discovered Robbie; however, he never saw Robbie. Robbie was in the apartment in the bathroom at the time (but...). Colin called the police to report Robbie as an intruder, and was surprised at their reply. The police already knew about the break-in because Robbie had already called.

My earlier difficulties with answering questions related to the timing of Colin arriving home stemmed from the fact that there are two separate, relevant events that could be described as arriving home: first Colin is seen on the sidewalk approaching the building, then Colin arrives at his actual front door.

Based on this recap, there are only a few pieces of missing information in the puzzle(so you're close to finished), but I'd say one of the missing pieces is still a pretty big leap.
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did Colin have a big dog with him?
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Did Colin have a big dog with him? YES! Two big German shepherds, in fact.
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so the dog is one missing piece - Robbie was frightened of the dog? and I'm guessing that the dogs were the ones who realised there was an intruder in the bathroom?

am I allowed to ask what else we need to work out?
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Was Robbie scared of the dogs? Of something else too? Did the dogs alert Colin to the presence of Robbie?
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so the dog is one missing piece - Robbie was frightened of the dog? yes and I'm guessing that the dogs were the ones who realised there was an intruder in the bathroom? that is a logical guess, but no. It was Colin.

Was Robbie scared of the dogs? yes Of something else too? no Did the dogs alert Colin to the presence of Robbie? no

am I allowed to ask what else we need to work out? You got the big thing (the German shepherds), so the only small but essential thing left is how Colin realized Robbie was in the house, given that he didn't see Robbie and the dogs had nothing to do with it.
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had Robbie left something outside the bathroom? his tools? his jacket? a heap of things he was stealing?

had he been helping himself to food and drink and left the evidence out? I hope it's this - it's my favourite
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had Robbie left something outside the bathroom? his tools? his jacket? a heap of things he was stealing?

had he been helping himself to food and drink and left the evidence out? I hope it's this - it's my favourite

no to all. (sorry it wasn't your favorite =)
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was there some other evidence outside the bathroom? had he left the lights on? the TV? the radio?

did Colin see the bathroom light shining under the door? did Colin hear him? making the call?

did Robbie use the house phone to call and Colin could see another handset flashing?
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was there some other evidence outside the bathroom? had he left the lights on? the TV? the radio?

did Colin see the bathroom light shining under the door? did Colin hear him? making the call? this one!

did Robbie use the house phone to call and Colin could see another handset flashing?

****** SPOILER ******

Robbie broke into Colin's apartment while Colin was out. Colin returned while Robbie was still there. Robbie saw Colin walking up the side walk with two very large German shepherds and panicked. Robbie locked himself in the bathroom and called the police. Colin arrived at the front door of his house and heard a voice - he overheard Robbie, who was still on the phone with the police! Concerned about the unexpected voice in his house, Colin called the police to report an intruder. He was quite surprised when they more or less replied, "yeah, we know," having already received Robbie's panicked call from the bathroom.


Ok, so that's the version I was using, which was probably distorted twice -- once by the comedians on the program I heard it on, and once by the fact that I was going from memory of something I head heard several days before. It turns out that in the real story, "Robbie" is perhaps even more of an idiot than he was in this puzzle. Two key differences are:
1. He was in the bathroom for a specific reason, which is that he decided to take a shower while he was there!
2. He wasn't just afraid of the dogs. He made the somewhat dubious lateral leap that a man with two German shepherds must also have a gun, so he called the police not because of his fear of the dogs directly, but because he was afraid of the gun that he assumed Colin must be carrying.

Either way, it's a funny story, and I'm looking forward to the recordings that Vesica has a link to.

Vesica - given how much you like obscure news, if you don't already listen to "Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me," you should give it a try. It's available as a free podcast.

Thanks to all who participated, and congratulations to Shez for putting it together at the end.
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phew! thanks Noel. I still prefer my own version of events!
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I think we all have a lot of wiggle room in "Based on a true story".

Here's the link to the story with an embedded video that includes excerpts from both 911 calls.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/09/home-intruder-calls-911-on-self_n_833370.html
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It's not in this report, but my favorite part of this story is where "Robbie" claims he was kidnapped by Mexicans who put him in the shower. Because yeah...
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Haha, I totally missed the detail* before that "Colin" was actually a woman. The real story just gets funnier and funnier!

(*one detail among many, it seems, but hey, it's my puzzle so the story can go however I want it to go =) )

I'd love to hear his explanation of why Mexican kidnappers would put someone in another person's shower and then just leave him there...

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