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| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1436 Registered: 8-2001 |
I am a word dork. I love words, the origins of words, the nuances of meanings of words. So I’ve had great fun scouring the archives for Idiomuzzle puzzles. I also really love the game “Six Degrees (of Kevin Bacon)” as I’m a bit of a film buff as well. The thought occurred to me, why not combine the two? About this puzzle: The words in black are filler words and are not part of the solution statement. The words in GREEN are the starter words. Each of these will need to be decoded five times to reach the solution word (in RED), resulting in six steps from start to finish. The progression will follow the color steps below and I will answer your questions in the color of the step each word is on. (For example, initial questions will be answered in in blue until the Decode 1 word is determined.) Starter Word Decode 1 Decode 2 Decode 3 Decode 4 Solution Word What counts as an Idiom? Since I plan a series of these, I’ve had to go a little outside “true” idioms and am drawing from idioms, proverbs, maxims and well-known sayings. Rules: • Decoding involves finding synonyms, near synonyms, specific examples of the general type (or vice versa) and sound-alikes. Decoded words may change parts of speech moving between steps. For example, a word may be a noun moving from the starter word to Decode 1, but then be used in its verb form to move from Decode 1 to Decode 2. • In the decoding steps, more than one word might be used for a single word. This will be shown using parenthesis. For example, (white hot) might be used to indicate the decoded word incandescent. • Words should be decoded using true lateral questions or guesses. I will not answer questions about the number of letters in the solution word, letter it starts or ends with, or if it is a noun, verb, etc. However, if in doubt, ask away. At worst, I will decline to answer your question. • Words may be formal, informal, archaic usage or slang. (I realize this may disadvantage those without very strong English skills and I will help/hint when needed.) Hopefully that made sense and I’m not making this whole thing way too complicated. I mostly thought it would be fun to see how far away one can get from the original when travelling the twisting byways of variant meanings. If you admire the hooligans who were (stone throwers), then perhaps you would “Dislike” the rule that forbids groups who would incite riots from creating Facebook events for their planned uprisings. P.S. This puzzle took a good deal of time to write so please send early guesses etc. to Vesica at Gmail. Thanks! | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1555 Registered: 9-2009 |
This is just a question to make sure I understand the rules: Assuming that what I put in brackets are word / group of words to be decoded, while the ones not in brackets are words in the final solution, is it true that your puzzle statement can be re-written as: "If [admire] were [stone throwers] then [forbids] would [incite]." ? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1439 Registered: 8-2001 |
your puzzle statement can be re-written as: "If [admire] were [stone throwers] then [forbids] would [incite]." YES! I'm not sure I totally understand the point of sticking the phrase INSIDE another statement, but that was the previous format of these types of puzzles so I followed along. Perhaps I should have just changed that. Let's just use the short version: If admire were (stone throwers) then forbids would incite. GREEN = to be decoded RED = Word unchanged in solution. | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2709 Registered: 7-2009 |
I think the reason they're imbedded in other phrases is so that the black words in the sentence are spacers (so the parentheses wouldn't be necessary because you wouldn't put two green words next together unless they were meant to be read as one unit). That said, I'm not sure doing it that way is necessary, it's just the convention used in the original idiomuzzles and everyone else just copied it. admire = adore? respect? stone throwers = sling shots? bullies? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3896 Registered: 9-2010 |
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." Relevant? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1016 Registered: 2-2011 |
Not sure I've got this, but only one way to find out: admire - respect? esteem? appreciate? stone throwers - detractors? critics? attacker? forbids - prohibits? incite - entice? rouse? encourage? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1440 Registered: 8-2001 |
Noel admire = adore? No respect? No, but OTRT stone throwers = sling shots? No, but OTRT bullies? No Kayleetonkslupin "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." Relevant? Nope. Shez Not sure I've got this, but only one way to find out: admire - respect? No esteem? No, but both of these are OTRT appreciate? No stone throwers - detractors? No critics? No attacker? No forbids - prohibits? No, but OTRT incite - entice? No, but VERY much OTRT rouse? No encourage? No | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3492 Registered: 1-2007 |
Hi Vesica I've a theory so I'm going to mail you. | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3301 Registered: 1-2001 |
stone throwers = catapults? admire = look up to? revere? honor? forbids = outlaws? bans? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1450 Registered: 8-2001 |
Peter365 Hi Vesica I've a theory so I'm going to mail you. I appreciate that! However, that’s not it. Ixoye724 stone throwers = catapults? YES! admire = look up to? revere? honor? None of these. For this puzzle, you may feel free to use Thesaurus.com and put in admire. forbids = outlaws? YES! bans? UPDATED PUZZLE STATEMENT: (Also, I think this will be easier if I make the “null” words black, yes?? SO we are only working on the words in COLOR.) If admire were catapults then outlaws would incite. GREEN = Starter Word BLUE = Decode 1 | ||
| Sundowner (Sundowner)
New member Username: Sundowner Post Number: 803 Registered: 6-2003 |
incite -> excite? admire -> admiral? butterfly? monarch? king? admire -> extol? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1453 Registered: 8-2001 |
incite -> excite? YES! admire -> admiral? butterfly? monarch? king? No to these admire -> extol? No, but OTRT So far for ADMIRE we have: Respect, esteem and extol as close. HINT: Think in terms of admiring something someone has done. If admire were catapults then outlaws would excite. GREEN= Starter Word BLUE= Decode 1 | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3305 Registered: 1-2001 |
admire = appreciate? value? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1454 Registered: 8-2001 |
admire = appreciate? value? Neither of these. Appreciate is closer than value. | ||
| Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
New member Username: Gregoryuconn Post Number: 1391 Registered: 9-2010 |
Admire = support? Look up to? Love? Secret (as in secret admirer)? hero? pride? proud of? Catapults = launches? Tosses? Brass? Throws? Outlaws = criminals? A specific type of criminal? If so, would you accept the [LTPF list of crimes]? excite = arouse? Stimulate? Give joy to? Joy? Happy happy joy joy? Jubilant? Jubliation? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1461 Registered: 8-2001 |
Gregoryuconn Admire = support? Look up to? Love? Secret (as in secret admirer)? hero? pride? None of these. proud of? This is the closest yet. Catapults = launches? YES!! First guess. VERY nicely done. Tosses? Brass? Throws? And so no to these Outlaws = criminals? Right track, but not this word. A specific type of criminal? If so, would you accept the [LTPF list of crimes]? Not a specific type (as in “robber”). excite = arouse? Stimulate? No but right track Give joy to? Joy? No, wrong track Happy happy joy joy? LO-OG, LO-OG, Fun for a girl or a boy! Jubilant? Jubliation? No and wrong track. ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ If admire were launches then outlaws would excite. GREEN = Starter Word BLUE = Decode 1 CYAN =Decode 2 | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1020 Registered: 2-2011 |
Gotit! I'll email | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1462 Registered: 8-2001 |
I'll be on the lookout. | ||
| Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
New member Username: Gregoryuconn Post Number: 1392 Registered: 9-2010 |
First of all, what's a lo-og, second of all, I don't remember that being in any ad other than some bread/cake commercial, possibly Sarah Lee. And now for the guesses outlaws = crooks? Rascals? Menaces? launches = rocket? (As in a rocket launch)? Lift-off? So "arouse" and "stimulate" are on the right track for "excite" but "give joy to" is on the wrong track.... This wouldn't have anything to do with Anthony Weiner, would it? Or with... er, things that can be referred to by his last name? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1465 Registered: 8-2001 |
First of all, what's a lo-og, second of all, I don't remember that being in any ad other than some bread/cake commercial, possibly Sarah Lee. And now for the guesses Just me being a dork. Ren & Stimpy (from whence “HappyHappy JoyJoy) springs also did a parody commercial for “Log” that used the Slinky jingle (“It's Slinky, it's Slinky, for fun it's a wonderful toy/It's Slinky, it's Slinky, it's fun for a girl and a boy”). Thiers was “It's Log, Log, it's big, it's heavy, it's wood./It's Log, Log, it's better than bad, it's good!”…except they drew out the word “Log” to make it fit where “Slinky” had, making it two syllables – “Lo-og”. outlaws = crooks? Rascals? Menaces? No, but right track launches = rocket? (As in a rocket launch)? Lift-off? No to all So "arouse" and "stimulate" are on the right track for "excite" Yes but "give joy to" is on the wrong track.... Correct This wouldn't have anything to do with Anthony Weiner, would it? No Or with... er, things that can be referred to by his last name? Yesish, but this is a G-rated puzzle so keep it vague. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1027 Registered: 2-2011 |
oh - how do I email you? your email addresss is hidden | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1028 Registered: 2-2011 |
anyway, I could be wrong... outlaws = ragamuffins? rapscallion? rogue? scamp? scoundrel? launches = ships? boats? vessels? opens? initiates? starts? begins? commences? excite - motivate? kindle? inspire? encourage? fuel? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1471 Registered: 8-2001 |
Shez oh - how do I email you? your email addresss is hidden Well, yes…but it is in the last line of the puzzle post. My LTPF username at Gmail. outlaws = ragamuffins? No rapscallion? No rogue? YES scamp? scoundrel? No to both launches = ships? boats? vessels? No to these opens? initiates? starts? No, but right track begins? YES! excite - motivate? No kindle? No but right track inspire? No encourage? No fuel? No, but right track HINT: For “admire”, if I said I admire the way a coworker handled an angry customer, I could say that I __________ their actions. ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ If admire were begins then rogues would excite. GREEN = Starter Word BLUE = Decode 1 CYAN =Decode 2 PURPLE = Decode 3 | ||
| Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
New member Username: Gregoryuconn Post Number: 1398 Registered: 9-2010 |
Excite = ignite? Rogues = rouge? nomads? Begins = ends? starts? Genesis? admire = appreciate? desire? take pride in? support? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1474 Registered: 8-2001 |
Excite = ignite? No but very similar to this word. Rogues = rouge? Huh?? No nomads? No Begins = ends? starts? Genesis? No to all admire = appreciate? desire? take pride in? support? No to all. Appreciate and Take pride in are closest. (The word we are looking for would often be followed by “of” in the sentence I gave.) | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3310 Registered: 1-2001 |
admire = approve? be proud (of)? excite = fire up? spark? light? inflame? | ||
| Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
New member Username: Gregoryuconn Post Number: 1401 Registered: 9-2010 |
excite = ignition? ignites? ignitor? admire = be appreciative (of)? be proud (of)? Begins = Menachem (Begin)? Reagan? Bay of Pigs Invasion? (Like in "We Didn't Start the Fire") | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1032 Registered: 2-2011 |
excite = incite? begins = commences? opens? intigates? initiates? activates? creates? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1478 Registered: 8-2001 |
Ixoye724 admire = approve? YES! be proud (of)? No excite = fire up? spark? light? No to these inflame? YES! Gregoryuconn excite = ignition? ignites? ignitor? Solved! See above. admire = be appreciative (of)? be proud (of)? Solved! See above. Begins = Menachem (Begin)? Reagan? Bay of Pigs Invasion? (Like in "We Didn't Start the Fire") None of these Shez excite = incite? Solved! See above. begins = commences? opens? intigates? initiates? activates? creates? None of these. Initiates or instigates it the closest. ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ If approves were begins then rogues would inflames. BLUE = Decode 1 CYAN =Decode 2 PURPLE = Decode 3 | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3312 Registered: 1-2001 |
approves = yesses? okays? allows? accepts? agrees? begins = sets off? kicks off? opens? | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 353 Registered: 1-2010 |
approves=likes? begins=causes? leads (to)? inflames=lights? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1033 Registered: 2-2011 |
inflames = anger? provoke? agitate? kindle? rogues = vagabonds? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1481 Registered: 8-2001 |
Ixoye724 approves = yesses? okays? No, but these are on the right track. allows? accepts? No, wrong track agrees? No begins = sets off? kicks off? opens? None of these. Hominid approves=likes? No begins=causes? leads (to)? No inflames=lights? No HINT on both “approves” and “begins”: The current word and the next decode for both are linked when the word you have is used in a certain context/ “when talking about X”. This may help if you all are tiring of straight up guessing. | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1482 Registered: 8-2001 |
Shez inflames = anger? No provoke? agitate? These are closest. kindle? No rogues = vagabonds? No | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1034 Registered: 2-2011 |
inflame = incense? aggravate? needle? hassle? irritate? | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 354 Registered: 1-2010 |
approves=allows? lets? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1035 Registered: 2-2011 |
approves = endorses? supports? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1488 Registered: 8-2001 |
Shez inflame = incense? aggravate? needle? hassle? No to these irritate? YES! Hominid approves=allows? lets? No to both Shez approves = endorses? This is REALLY REALLY close. supports? No ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ If approves were begins then rogues would irritate. BLUE = Decode 1 CYAN =Decode 2 PURPLE = Decode 3 | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1037 Registered: 2-2011 |
approves = sanctions? irritate = rile? bother? aggravate? bother? exasparate? annoy? infuriate? worry? hassle? begins = prompts? originates? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1493 Registered: 8-2001 |
Shez approves = sanctions? No irritate = rile? No bother? No, but right track. aggravate? No bother? You have this one twice. exasparate? No annoy? No, but right track. infuriate? No worry? No hassle? No, but right track. begins = prompts? No originates? No Hint for “begins”: It would be common to see this word used for talking about “beginning” a journey or expedition. | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3317 Registered: 1-2001 |
begins = sets off? irritate = pester? aggravate? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1495 Registered: 8-2001 |
begins = sets off? No irritate = pester? aggravate? No | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3318 Registered: 1-2001 |
irritate = irk? chafe? worry? begins = embarks? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1496 Registered: 8-2001 |
irritate = irk? No, but right track. chafe? worry? No begins = embarks? No, but very right track. | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3319 Registered: 1-2001 |
begins = heads out? sets out? boards? launches? sets sail? commences? enters? gets going? originates? undertakes? irritate = bug? disturb? inconvenience? miff? provoke? ruffle? trouble? vex? stir (up)? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1498 Registered: 8-2001 |
irritate = bug? No, but right track disturb? inconvenience? miff? provoke? ruffle? trouble? No to these vex? This is on the right track too. stir (up)? No | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1039 Registered: 2-2011 |
approves = backs? INdorses? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1503 Registered: 8-2001 |
approves = backs? No, this meaning is the wrong track. INdorses? Some online dictionaries show this as the same as ENdorse. Those that do not actully show ENdorse as being closer in meaning to the mystery word than INdorse. | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 360 Registered: 1-2010 |
irritate=annoy? bug? disturb? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3328 Registered: 1-2001 |
begins = genesis? Did you see the earlier post about this word? | ||
| Sundowner (Sundowner)
New member Username: Sundowner Post Number: 810 Registered: 6-2003 |
approve -> confirm? consent? accredit? allow? permit? tolerate? mandate? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1509 Registered: 8-2001 |
Hominid irritate=annoy? No bug? Of these three, this is closest. disturb? No Ixoye724 begins = genesis? No Did you see the earlier post about this word? Whoops! I did not. Let me fix that now… begins = heads out? sets out? boards? No and wrong track launches? No but closer sets sail? commences? enters? gets going? originates? No undertakes? This is the closest yet, but still no. irritate = bug? disturb? inconvenience? miff? provoke? ruffle? trouble? vex? stir (up)? No to all. Bug and vex are closest. Sundowner approve -> confirm? consent? accredit? allow? permit? tolerate? mandate? No…these are the wrong direction. Further HINT on “approve”: You all were close with ‘endorse’. VERY close in fact. Think of ‘approve’ and ‘endorse’ in terms of business or lawmaking. Further HINT on “begins”: Actually, I’m out of hints. The best I can tell you is that the most common place to see the word you are looking for used is in talking about an expedition. As in “The great explorer announced his plans to ______ an expedition to the summit of Everest”. (Both these decodes are probably the MOST lateral in this puzzle…which is why they are taking a while and we're a bit stuck.) | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1510 Registered: 8-2001 |
Also, while most of these decodes have involved finding basic synonyms, remember we already had one where you needed to use a different definition/part of speech of the word (stone throwers to catapaults to launches). | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3335 Registered: 1-2001 |
Hmmmmm.... begins = tackles? commences? proceeds? approve = enact? pass? elect? ratify? legalize? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1567 Registered: 9-2009 |
begins = starts? | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2715 Registered: 7-2009 |
begins = sets off on? approve = sponsor? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3493 Registered: 1-2007 |
Begin - lead | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1516 Registered: 8-2001 |
Ixoye724 begins = tackles? commences? proceeds? No to all approve = enact? pass? elect? ratify? legalize? No to all. “Endorse” is closer than these. Noel begins = sets off on? No approve = sponsor? No Peter365 Begin – lead No | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2716 Registered: 7-2009 |
approve = support? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1517 Registered: 8-2001 |
approve = support? no | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1042 Registered: 2-2011 |
approve = sanction? consent? ratify? begins = mounts? irritate = cross? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1574 Registered: 9-2009 |
You missed my attempt... | ||
| Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
New member Username: Gregoryuconn Post Number: 1419 Registered: 9-2010 |
Begins = embarks? embarks on? Approves = supports? Endorses? sponsors? co-sponsors? passes (like a law)? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3344 Registered: 1-2001 |
approve = notarize? okay? thumbs-up? vote in? stamp? sign? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1529 Registered: 8-2001 |
Sorry for the long pause. Thought I would have more chance to respond while out of town on business. Sadly, I barely had time to sleep, let alone check in here. But it looks like we are making great progress here! Shez approve = sanction? consent? No to these. ratify? No, but also VERY close. begins = mounts? YES!! irritate = cross? No. Rbruma You missed my attempt...So sorry!! begins = starts? Now solved – See above. Gregoryuconn Begins = embarks? embarks on? Now solved – See above. Approves = supports? Endorses? sponsors? co-sponsors? passes (like a law)? No to these. Ixoye724 approve = notarize? okay? thumbs-up? vote in? stamp? No to these. sign? YES!! ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ UPDATED PUZZLE STATEMENT: If signs were mounts then rogues would irritate. CYAN =Decode 2 PURPLE = Decode 3 ORANGE = Decode 4 (next solve will be the word in the solution.) | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3907 Registered: 9-2010 |
mounts = horses? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1530 Registered: 8-2001 |
mounts = horses? YES! ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ UPDATED PUZZLE STATEMENT: If signs were HORSES then rogues would irritate. CYAN =Decode 2 PURPLE = Decode 3 ORANGE = Decode 4 RED = SOLUTION WORD. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1104 Registered: 2-2011 |
signs = signals? autographs? marks? notices? symbols? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1536 Registered: 8-2001 |
Signs = signals? autographs? marks? notices? symbols? None of these. | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 393 Registered: 1-2010 |
signs=notices? posters? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3505 Registered: 1-2007 |
signs = Omens? Portents? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3506 Registered: 1-2007 |
Vesica Seconds after posting my question what I think might be the solution popped into my head. I'll e-mail it to you and bow out if i'm right. | ||
| Sundowner (Sundowner)
New member Username: Sundowner Post Number: 829 Registered: 6-2003 |
irritate -> hassle -> ride? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1557 Registered: 8-2001 |
Hominid signs=notices? posters? No to both. Peter365 signs = Omens? Portents? No, but these are both the synonyms for the word we want. I'll e-mail it to you and bow out if i'm right. You are indeed correct!! Well done! Sundowner irritate -> hassle -> ride? I was looking for a different middle word, but the final one is correct – so good enough!! ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ UPDATED PUZZLE STATEMENT: If signs were HORSES then rogues would RIDE. CYAN =Decode 2 PURPLE = Decode 3 ORANGE = Decode 4 RED = SOLUTION WORD | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3910 Registered: 9-2010 |
Rogues = thieves = beggars? (*has "Hoist the Colours" from PotC stuck in head* "yo ho, thieves and beggars, never shall we die...") | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1131 Registered: 2-2011 |
signs = auguries? presages? | ||
| Fionakelleghan (Fionakelleghan)
New member Username: Fionakelleghan Post Number: 38 Registered: 7-2011 |
If clones were outlawed, then only outlaws would have clones? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1583 Registered: 8-2001 |
Kayleetonkslupin Rogues = thieves = beggars? Not the way I got there, but we will go with this – YES! Shez signs = auguries? presages? Auguries could work, but let’s say ‘prophecies’, shall we? Fionakelleghan If clones were outlawed, then only outlaws would have clones? Made me grin, but no. ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ UPDATED PUZZLE STATEMENT: If prophecies were HORSES then BEGGARS would RIDE. CYAN =Decode 2 PURPLE = Decode 3 ORANGE = Decode 4 RED = SOLUTION WORD We’re far enough along that open guess are fine. We should be just about done… | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1145 Registered: 2-2011 |
no no! I guessed this ages back, but even knowing the answer I'm having fun guessing the steps. in fact, maybe even more fun. | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1587 Registered: 8-2001 |
Well, as long as we're not driving you batty! Guess away. One word left to decode, unless you are dead set on figuring out how to get to "Beggars" as well. (By way of hint: You need to use "rogue" as a verb, not a noun.) | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3912 Registered: 9-2010 |
If wishes were horses, then beggars would ride? (I'm pretty sure that's the answer, although the path from prophecies to wishes is eluding me) | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1590 Registered: 8-2001 |
If wishes were horses, then beggars would ride? (I'm pretty sure that's the answer, although the path from prophecies to wishes is eluding me) That is it! Shez - Did you still want to work on how to get to "wishes"?? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1149 Registered: 2-2011 |
no - please put me out of my misery! | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1606 Registered: 8-2001 |
Hopefully those of you who participated enjoyed this. I tried to be flexible in the path from start to finish, but below I have listed my original mapping for the decodings. ****** SPOILER ****** The phrase is “If wishes were horses, then beggars would ride.” While there are many possible ways to get from start to finish, here is what I had mapped out. admire > approves > signs > prophesies > expectations > wishes stone throwers > catapults > launches > begins > mounts > horses forbids > outlaws > rogue > cheats > fleeces/swindles > beggars incite > excite > inflame > irritate > nag > ride Hopefully it was more fun than frustrating. So…do I run one of these again sometime or is everyone thrilled to see this one finished? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1155 Registered: 2-2011 |
grrr! I can't believe I didn't get it. Loved this puzzle - more, more more! | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 13981 Registered: 4-2010 |
Wow - we've had 2- or 3-stage idiomuzzles but never this many! Nice work! | ||
| Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd Post Number: 1832 Registered: 6-2008 |
What does this idiom mean, by the way? |
