| Author | Message | ||
| Dbw (Dbw)
New member Username: Dbw Post Number: 79 Registered: 6-2011 |
"But you just said you saw it!" | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 905 Registered: 7-2010 |
Speaker: HAM? Addressed person: HAM? It: An item? An event? A movie? A show? A video? Something on the internet? An animal? A vehicle? Something natural? Something man-made? A sight? Did the addressed person really see "it"? Does the speaker address the person referred to as "you" ...in person? ...on the phone? ...on the internet? Relevant? Let's say X = addressed person seeing "it" and Y = adressed person telling about it and Z = speaker saying the puzzle statement... Relevant how much time passed between X and Y? If so: Seconds? Minutes? Hours? Days? A week? More than a week? A month? More than a month? A year? Several years? Relevant how much time passed between Y and Z? If so: Seconds? Minutes? Hours? Days? A week? More than a week? A month? More than a month? A year? Several years? When the addressed person said he saw it, did he say it to the speaker? To another person? To a group of persons? | ||
| Dbw (Dbw)
New member Username: Dbw Post Number: 80 Registered: 6-2011 |
Speaker: HAM? yes Addressed person: HAM? yes It: An item? yes An event? A movie? A show? A video? Something on the internet? An animal? A vehicle? Something natural? Something man-made? yes A sight? yesish Did the addressed person really see "it"? yes Does the speaker address the person referred to as "you" ...in person? ...on the phone? this ...on the internet? Relevant? yes Let's say X = addressed person seeing "it" and Y = adressed person telling about it and Z = speaker saying the puzzle statement... Relevant how much time passed between X and Y? not really If so: Seconds? Minutes? Hours? this, most likely Days? A week? More than a week? A month? More than a month? A year? Several years? Relevant how much time passed between Y and Z? If so: Seconds? this Minutes? Hours? Days? A week? More than a week? A month? More than a month? A year? Several years? When the addressed person said he saw it, did he say it to the speaker? yes To another person? no To a group of persons? no | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 906 Registered: 7-2010 |
Can we call the speaker Max? And the addressed person Paul? So, Paul first told Max that he saw the item, and then said something that made Paul assume he hadn't seen it, right? Did Paul say things that were conflicting? Or Did Max want Paul to describe the item and Paul couldn't? Was Paul still seeing the item when they started to talk? Was he still seeing it when Max said the puzzle statement? Was Paul on a vacation? Traveling? On a business trip? Is "it" a building? A statue? A park? A cave? Something that's on display in an exhibition or a museum? An eletronic device? Did Paul call Max? Did Max call Paul? Relevant? Did Paul want Max to know that he saw it? Was Paul using a cell phone? Relevant? Wild guess: Geocaching relevant? | ||
| Dbw (Dbw)
New member Username: Dbw Post Number: 81 Registered: 6-2011 |
Can we call the speaker Max? ok And the addressed person Paul? ok So, Paul first told Max that he saw the item yes, and then said something that made Paul you mean Max? assume he hadn't seen it, right? yope Did Paul say things that were conflicting? yope Or Did Max want Paul to describe the item and Paul couldn't? no Was Paul still seeing the item when they started to talk? possible but unlikely Was he still seeing it when Max said the puzzle statement? possible but unlikely Was Paul on a vacation? possible Traveling? <yes> On a business trip? possible Is "it" a building? A statue? A park? A cave? Something that's on display in an exhibition or a museum? An eletronic device? none of these Did Paul call Max? yes Did Max call Paul? no Relevant? yes Did Paul want Max to know that he saw it? yes Was Paul using a cell phone? Relevant? irrelevant Wild guess: Geocaching relevant? nope | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 908 Registered: 7-2010 |
Yes, I meant Max in the third question of my previous post. Sorry for that. Is "it" one single item? Could a person take it with him? Or is it something that's fixed to the ground? Is it a monument? A sign? A castle? A sea? When Paul said the yope-ly conflicting things, did he tell the truth all the time? Did he simply misspeak something? Or confuse something? Or did he intend to say the things he said? | ||
| Dbw (Dbw)
New member Username: Dbw Post Number: 82 Registered: 6-2011 |
Is "it" one single item? yes Could a person take it with him? no Or is it something that's fixed to the ground? yes Is it a monument? A sign? this A castle? A sea? When Paul said the yope-ly conflicting things, did he tell the truth all the time? yes Did he simply misspeak something? no Or confuse something? yes Or did he intend to say the things he said? yes | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 911 Registered: 7-2010 |
He confused something but also intended to say what he said? Did he confuse things on purpose? Is it a roadsign? A billboard? A sign containing a relevant poem or story? A sign containing a relevant picture? A neon sign? A placename sign? A direction sign? Are the contents of the sign amusing in some way? | ||
| Dbw (Dbw)
New member Username: Dbw Post Number: 83 Registered: 6-2011 |
He confused something but also intended to say what he said? yes Did he confuse things on purpose? no Is it a roadsign? A billboard? yes! A sign containing a relevant poem or story? A sign containing a relevant picture? A neon sign? A placename sign? A direction sign? Are the contents of the sign amusing in some way? no | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1134 Registered: 2-2011 |
so Paul saw the billboard and rang Max to tell him? had Max seen it for himself? did he know what was on it? was it an advertisement? did Max ask Paul a question about it? and Paul was unable to answer? or answered incorrectly? | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 912 Registered: 7-2010 |
Did Paul think that he had seen a famous/well-known sign but it was in fact a different one? Could Paul not fully remember what was on the billboard? Did Paul misunderstand Max? Did Max misunderstand Paul? | ||
| Dbw (Dbw)
New member Username: Dbw Post Number: 85 Registered: 6-2011 |
so Paul saw the billboard and rang Max to tell him? yes had Max seen it for himself? yes did he know what was on it? yes was it an advertisement? yes! did Max ask Paul a question about it? no and Paul was unable to answer? or answered incorrectly? Did Paul think that he had seen a famous/well-known sign but it was in fact a different one? no Could Paul not fully remember what was on the billboard? no Did Paul misunderstand Max? yesish Did Max misunderstand Paul? no | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 917 Registered: 7-2010 |
So Max assumed that Paul had seen a certain advertisement but it really wasn't the one that Paul had seen? Max' job relevant? Paul's job relevant? Does Max create advertisements? Is he responsible for the placements of advertisements? Does he own a company? Did Paul see one of "Max'" advertisements? Did Max think that Paul saw one of "his" advertisements? So, Max had seen the billboard before Paul saw it? But in the time in between, the advertisement on the billboard changed? So when Paul saw it, it looked different from what it was when Max saw it? Was the billboard moved? | ||
| Dbw (Dbw)
New member Username: Dbw Post Number: 87 Registered: 6-2011 |
So Max assumed that Paul had seen a certain advertisement but it really wasn't the one that Paul had seen? no. Max' job relevant? yes! Paul's job relevant? yes! Does Max create advertisements? noish... Is he responsible for the placements of advertisements? YES! Does he own a company? irr Did Paul see one of "Max'" advertisements? yes Did Max think that Paul saw one of "his" advertisements? yes So, Max had seen the billboard before Paul saw it? yes But in the time in between, the advertisement on the billboard changed? no So when Paul saw it, it looked different from what it was when Max saw it? no Was the billboard moved? no This is progressing faster than I expected. :-) | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1139 Registered: 2-2011 |
is Paul a model? | ||
| Dbw (Dbw)
New member Username: Dbw Post Number: 89 Registered: 6-2011 |
is Paul a model? no | ||
| Fionakelleghan (Fionakelleghan)
New member Username: Fionakelleghan Post Number: 52 Registered: 7-2011 |
Is Paul on television: as an actor as a spokesman for a cause? Does he often get hired in some situation that the public might see? "But you just said you saw it" - did Paul and Max refer to something that they had in common, but which they might easily confuse in a chat? | ||
| Dbw (Dbw)
New member Username: Dbw Post Number: 91 Registered: 6-2011 |
Is Paul on television: no as an actor as a spokesman for a cause? Does he often get hired in some situation that the public might see? no, none of these "But you just said you saw it" - did Paul and Max refer to something that they had in common, but which they might easily confuse in a chat? No | ||
| Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 524 Registered: 4-2007 |
Did Paul see the fixture ( from a far away or from the back, let's say ) versus Max thought that Paul saw the advertisement placed on the billboard? Or the other way around: Max wanted his friend to admire his engineering, but Paul only noticed the ad? | ||
| Dbw (Dbw)
New member Username: Dbw Post Number: 95 Registered: 6-2011 |
Did Paul see the fixture ( from a far away or from the back, let's say ) versus Max thought that Paul saw the advertisement placed on the billboard? No, Paul read the ad on the billboard. Or the other way around: Max wanted his friend to admire his engineering, but Paul only noticed the ad? No... but closer to the right track ;-) | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1148 Registered: 2-2011 |
Max wanted Paul to spot something in the ad which Paul didn't even notice? | ||
| Dbw (Dbw)
New member Username: Dbw Post Number: 96 Registered: 6-2011 |
Max wanted Paul to spot something in the ad which Paul didn't even notice? No... but sort of the right track ;-) | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1597 Registered: 8-2001 |
Was it a usual billboard? Alongside a road? A large sign above eye level? Was it a "billboard" on a vehicle? A car? A truck? Was it a static billboard (unchanging)? Was it a rotating billboard (the ones that change the display every few minutes)? Was it an electronic billboard? We determined Paul's profession is relevant, yes? Is he a co-worker of Max's? In the same profession but with a different company? Is he a client of Max's? It the billboard advertising for Paul? | ||
| Dbw (Dbw)
New member Username: Dbw Post Number: 98 Registered: 6-2011 |
Was it a usual billboard? yes Alongside a road? yes A large sign above eye level? yes Was it a "billboard" on a vehicle? no A car? A truck? Was it a static billboard (unchanging)? yes Was it a rotating billboard (the ones that change the display every few minutes)? no Was it an electronic billboard? possible, but irrelevant We determined Paul's profession is relevant, yes? Is he a co-worker of Max's? no In the same profession but with a different company? noish Is he a client of Max's? yope! It the billboard advertising for Paul? no | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1152 Registered: 2-2011 |
was Paul a potential client for Max? | ||
| Dbw (Dbw)
New member Username: Dbw Post Number: 101 Registered: 6-2011 |
was Paul a potential client for Max? yes!! | ||
| Yatin509 (Yatin509)
New member Username: Yatin509 Post Number: 42 Registered: 6-2011 |
So Paul is a client for Max then Paul didn't saw the billboard? Is Paul pretending that he didn't saw the Billboard? Max's professional is one of who arranges spaces for advertisements? Max arranged an ad space for Paul? Did Paul first say that he liked Max's work and then said that he even didn't watch it? Paul trying to get rid off Max? Paul is an arranger for a company and he got a better deal? | ||
| Dbw (Dbw)
New member Username: Dbw Post Number: 102 Registered: 6-2011 |
So Paul is a client for Max no; see previous post then Paul didn't saw the billboard? no; he did see it. Is Paul pretending that he didn't saw the Billboard? no Max's professional is one of who arranges spaces for advertisements? yes Max arranged an ad space for Paul? no Did Paul first say that he liked Max's work and then said that he even didn't watch it? not exactly but this is on the right track Paul trying to get rid off Max? no Paul is an arranger for a company "arranger" is not the right word, but if you mean someone who arranges deals for a company, then yes and he got a better deal? no | ||
| Fionakelleghan (Fionakelleghan)
New member Username: Fionakelleghan Post Number: 79 Registered: 7-2011 |
Does the billboard advertise such events as a NASA shuttle launch? Or a movie, with actors and actresses posing their hot bodies, or widely smiling, or waving guns, etc.? Is the billboard there to announce the construction of, say, a new condominium? Or other city infrastructure? Does it have anything to do with Grey Poupon? :D | ||
| Dbw (Dbw)
New member Username: Dbw Post Number: 105 Registered: 6-2011 |
Does the billboard advertise such events as a NASA shuttle launch? Or a movie, with actors and actresses posing their hot bodies, or widely smiling, or waving guns, etc.? Is the billboard there to announce the construction of, say, a new condominium? Or other city infrastructure? Does it have anything to do with Grey Poupon? none of these | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1184 Registered: 2-2011 |
is it relevant what the ad is for? so Paul saw the billboard but didn't notice something relevant about it? | ||
| Dbw (Dbw)
New member Username: Dbw Post Number: 106 Registered: 6-2011 |
is it relevant what the ad is for? yes so Paul saw the billboard but didn't notice something relevant about it? yes | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1193 Registered: 2-2011 |
was the ad for food and drink? cigarettes? clothes? cars? real estate? a movie? did Paul not notice because there was a scantily clad lady in the ad? | ||
| Dbw (Dbw)
New member Username: Dbw Post Number: 107 Registered: 6-2011 |
was the ad for food and drink? cigarettes? clothes? cars? real estate? this is closest... a movie? did Paul not notice because there was a scantily clad lady in the ad? no | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1624 Registered: 8-2001 |
About the ad: Did it include a picture of a home? A property? The name of the relators? The name of the advertising agency? A phone number? A website? Did it promote a deal? Did Paul not notice: The company being advertised? The name of the company that owned the billboard? (I've seen some with this info at the bottom) Where the ad was located? The property being advertised? | ||
| Dbw (Dbw)
New member Username: Dbw Post Number: 108 Registered: 6-2011 |
About the ad: Did it include a picture of a home? no A property? no The name of the realtors? FA The name of the advertising agency? no but... A phone number? yes A website? no Did it promote a deal? no, except in the sense that it was advertising something Did Paul not notice: The company being advertised? no The name of the company that owned the billboard? no (I've seen some with this info at the bottom) Where the ad was located? kinda! The property being advertised? again, kinda! You are really very close, you just need to think a bit...laterally from where you are ;-) | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1196 Registered: 2-2011 |
did the billboard advertise that this space was available for advertising? | ||
| Dbw (Dbw)
New member Username: Dbw Post Number: 109 Registered: 6-2011 |
did the billboard advertise that this space was available for advertising? YES! | ||
| Fionakelleghan (Fionakelleghan)
New member Username: Fionakelleghan Post Number: 114 Registered: 7-2011 |
Did the art design on the billboard use trompe l'oeil or other artistic tricks and treats? Is the space that is advertised aimed at a specific group of people? Rich people? Up-and-coming people? Foreigners looking to get a toe-hold? [Hey, Dbw - please see where I confessed and thanked you re Hot Fuzz. I was probably having a glass of wine, to make that huge a mistake.] | ||
| Dbw (Dbw)
New member Username: Dbw Post Number: 111 Registered: 6-2011 |
Did the art design on the billboard use trompe l'oeil or other artistic tricks and treats? no Is the space that is advertised aimed at a specific group of people? no | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1219 Registered: 2-2011 |
was the billboard blank except for a notice saying that this space was available for advertising? and a number? did Paul ring up to enquire about advertising? | ||
| Dbw (Dbw)
New member Username: Dbw Post Number: 113 Registered: 6-2011 |
was the billboard blank except for a notice saying that this space was available for advertising? and a number? yes did Paul ring up to enquire about advertising? yes | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1241 Registered: 2-2011 |
did Paul ask where he could have his ad? | ||
| Dbw (Dbw)
New member Username: Dbw Post Number: 114 Registered: 6-2011 |
did Paul ask where he could have his ad? YES So can you guess how the conversation went? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1258 Registered: 2-2011 |
Paul: I see from your sign that you have some advertising space available Max: yes that's right Paul: where is it? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1669 Registered: 8-2001 |
*snicker* I so hope that's right. That would be awesome. | ||
| Dbw (Dbw)
New member Username: Dbw Post Number: 115 Registered: 6-2011 |
Shez nailed it! ****SPOILER**** Paul, a local businessman, spotted a billboard that read "ADVERTISING SPACE AVAILABLE: CALL 555-1234." When he called to inquire, he didn't immediately realize the billboard was advertising itself and so they were both kind of confused: Max: Hello, Acme Advertising. Paul: I see from your sign that you have some advertising space available. Max: Yes, that's right. Paul: Where is it located? Max: pause But you just said you saw it! Paul: pause Oh, right, obviously. Nice work Shez!! | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1273 Registered: 2-2011 |
thanks Dbw - nice puzzle! | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1678 Registered: 8-2001 |
*giggles* Awesome puzzle! |
