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Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Posted on Monday, July 11, 2011 - 6:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Don't try to be eco-friendly. You might end up in jail.

Early $poilers please email
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Posted on Monday, July 11, 2011 - 8:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

eco-friendly with what you are wearing? eating? doing?

Is the eco-friendly mentioned synonymous with "environmentally friendly"?

Would you be successful if you tried to be eco-friendly?

Are you guaranteed to go to jail if you get caught being "eco-friendly"?
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Posted on Monday, July 11, 2011 - 8:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"You" = any of us on the LTPF? any one person on the Earth right now, doing this eco-friendly action? or does it matter what country/countries the person/people being advised and the person doing the advising come from?

Is this something that could actually happen, or did you make it up? Did someone else make it up?

Is Romania relevant? The United States? The UK? Other countries relevant? If so, {LTPF list of relevant countries} please?
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Posted on Monday, July 11, 2011 - 8:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

eco-friendly with what you are wearing? eating? This one doing? And a bit of this

Is the eco-friendly mentioned synonymous with "environmentally friendly"? Yes

Would you be successful if you tried to be eco-friendly? Possibly

Are you guaranteed to go to jail if you get caught being "eco-friendly"? Hopefully not, but I read that this can happen

"You" = any of us on the LTPF? Hopefully not any one person on the Earth right now, doing this eco-friendly action? Yes or does it matter what country/countries the person/people being advised and the person doing the advising come from? Yes, as it is reported as a true story

Is this something that could actually happen, or did you make it up? It seems that it was a news item Did someone else make it up? See before

Is Romania relevant? No The United States? Yes, no other country relevant The UK? Other countries relevant? If so, {LTPF list of relevant countries} please?
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Posted on Monday, July 11, 2011 - 8:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does this involve a specific kind of food? A specific kind of packaging on the food?

Is there a law involved?

Are there two ways to eat something, and the more eco-friendly method is against a law?
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Posted on Monday, July 11, 2011 - 8:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does this involve a specific kind of food? Yesish A specific kind of packaging on the food? No

Is there a law involved? Yesish

Are there two ways to eat something, and the more eco-friendly method is against a law? No
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Posted on Monday, July 11, 2011 - 8:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is it to do with roadkill? cannibalism?

eating food marked as not fit for human consumption? pet food?
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Posted on Monday, July 11, 2011 - 8:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is it to do with roadkill? cannibalism?

eating food marked as not fit for human consumption? pet food?

No to all
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Posted on Monday, July 11, 2011 - 8:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is this related to eating someone else's food, that they would have otherwise discarded? You are trying to be eco-friendly by eating leftover food, but get in trouble for "stealing" or something similar?
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Posted on Monday, July 11, 2011 - 8:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is this related to eating someone else's food, that they would have otherwise discarded? You are trying to be eco-friendly by eating leftover food, but get in trouble for "stealing" or something similar?

No to both
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Dumpster diving? By the way, if this entire line of reasoning is wrong, just say so and I'll get off it. :-)

Your title is "junk food" so I thought it made sense.
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Posted on Monday, July 11, 2011 - 9:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Dumpster diving? No By the way, if this entire line of reasoning is wrong, just say so and I'll get off it. :-) It is OTWT, true :-)

Your title is "junk food" so I thought it made sense. It does, but it is not the answer. The meaning of the title was something like: I prefer junk food if the alternative is serving time in jail
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Posted on Monday, July 11, 2011 - 9:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the food something you could purchase at a restaurant? Can you eat it in your own kitchen?

Is it more acceptable in certain locations rather than others? Private versus public?

Does this food have calories?

Would the police be the people who "catch you" eating this? Would someone seeing you eat this turn you in if they were against this?

Is this a political issue? Is there a difference of opinion on whether this should be legal?

Is marijuana or hemp involved at all?
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Posted on Monday, July 11, 2011 - 9:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is the junk food cheeseburgers? kaylee kitteh loves cheezburgur...

is it fast food at all? from a specific restaurant? A chain?
McDonalds?
Burger King?
Wendy's?
Jack in the Box? (my mother sarcastically refers to this place as "Junk in the Box"...)
Carl's Jr./Hardee's?
In-N-Out Burger?
Five Guys?

Kentucky Fried Chicken?
Arby's?
Taco Bell?
Subway?
Togo's?
Quizno's?
Panda Express?
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Posted on Monday, July 11, 2011 - 10:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the food something you could purchase at a restaurant? Yes Can you eat it in your own kitchen? Yes

Is it more acceptable in certain locations rather than others? No, it's a very normal type of food Private versus public?

Does this food have calories? Probably, but usually few

Would the police be the people who "catch you" eating this? Not eating it, but... Would someone seeing you eat this turn you in if they were against this? Not eating, but...

Is this a political issue? I don't think so Is there a difference of opinion on whether this should be legal? It is reported as such, but beware FA

Is marijuana or hemp involved at all? Not at all

is the junk food cheeseburgers? kaylee kitteh loves cheezburgur... Me too. And I wouldn't say no to a shawarma either.

is it fast food at all? No, the subject of the puzzle is a kind of food that can be found on any table -- on yours or mine as we speak from a specific restaurant? A chain? No to the rest
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Posted on Monday, July 11, 2011 - 10:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

kaylee kitteh does not know what a shawarma is...is good?

few calories...is the food made with vegetables? fruits? is it a vegetable? fruit?
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Posted on Tuesday, July 12, 2011 - 12:09 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hmm. This sounds a bit like my neologism about picking up beer bottles and getting arrested for underage possession of alcohol. Is that in any way close?
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Posted on Tuesday, July 12, 2011 - 7:42 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

kaylee kitteh does not know what a shawarma is...is good? A shawarma is a kind of a middle eastern "burger", now widely available around the world. I like it -- at least in the variants that are sold here. Also known by the Turkish name of "kebab" or the Greek name of "gyros"

few calories...is the food made with vegetables? fruits? is it a vegetable? YES! The rest are a no fruit?

Hmm. This sounds a bit like my neologism about picking up beer bottles and getting arrested for underage possession of alcohol. Is that in any way close? Only in that it seems to me similarly stupid. Otherwise no
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Posted on Tuesday, July 12, 2011 - 8:23 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is it to do with growing your own food? or stealing food from farms and gardens?

is there a food it's illegal to grow?
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Posted on Tuesday, July 12, 2011 - 3:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is one specific vegetable relevant here?
Does it have to do with food labelled for "human consumption"?

Does it have to do with the sale of the vegetable?
Transporting it from farm to somewhere else?
Does it have to do with cooking the vegetable?
Serving it?

Does the law pertain to the vegetable in it's pure form (like a carrot)?
Or as part of something else (like carrot cake)?
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Is one specific vegetable relevant here?
Does it have to do with food labelled for "human consumption"?

Does it have to do with the sale of the vegetable?
Transporting it from farm to somewhere else? No and FA
Does it have to do with cooking the vegetable?
Serving it?

Does the law pertain to the vegetable in it's pure form (like a carrot)? Yes and slight FA. All unanswered are No
Or as part of something else (like carrot cake)?
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is it to do with growing your own food? YES!!or stealing food from farms and gardens? No

is there a food it's illegal to grow? Yope, beware FA
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Posted on Tuesday, July 12, 2011 - 5:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the relevant food grown in a garden? Somewhere where the grower does not have the right to grow food? Is it mistaken for something that it is not?

Are we talking solely about growing vegetables? One particular type of vegetable?

Is someone growing the food solely for their own use? Relevant? Are they giving it to others? Selling it?
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Is the relevant food grown in a garden? NoSomewhere where the grower does not have the right to grow food? Apparently, yes! Is it mistaken for something that it is not? No

Are we talking solely about growing vegetables? This was the real situation. I don't know if it applies to other plants as well One particular type of vegetable? No

Is someone growing the food solely for their own use? I think so, but irrelevant anyway Relevant? Are they giving it to others? Selling it?

Good questions. The only remaining thing is to discover where the vegetables were grown
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Reminded of the "green roof" of the California Academy of Sciences in San Francisco, where the plants on the roof keep the building cooler...are the vegetables being grown on the roof?
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Are they grown inside? Outside? On public property? Private property?
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Reminded of the "green roof" of the California Academy of Sciences in San Francisco, where the plants on the roof keep the building cooler...are the vegetables being grown on the roof? No

Are they grown inside? Outside? This On public property? Private property? And this
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Does the property on which they are grown belong to the grower? Are they grown outside a house? On a plot of land unconnected to a building? On an allotment?
Does the land where they are grown have a relevant primary purpose other than the growing of vegetables?
Is the illegality due to safety reasons? Reasons of appearance (eg it makes the area look untidy)?

Is it the growing itself that is illegal? The harvesting? Just going onto the land?
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Posted on Tuesday, July 12, 2011 - 7:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

are these things which are grown on land belonging to someone else? a private individual? a company? government or local government?
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Does the property on which they are grown belong to the grower? Yes Are they grown outside a house? Yes On a plot of land unconnected to a building? No On an allotment? Not sure what exactly this means, but I would say no
Does the land where they are grown have a relevant primary purpose other than the growing of vegetables? YES!
Is the illegality due to safety reasons? No Reasons of appearance (eg it makes the area look untidy)? YES! -- or at least some official thought that way

Is it the growing itself that is illegal? Yes, no to the rest The harvesting? Just going onto the land?

are these things which are grown on land belonging to someone else? No a private individual? The individual who owns the land a company? government or local government?
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So is the area on public display? Is it by the side of a road? Out the front of a house? The back? Is it a graveyard?
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Posted on Tuesday, July 12, 2011 - 8:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So is the area on public display? Yes Is it by the side of a road? Probably Out the front of a house? We have a winner! The back? Is it a graveyard?

******* SPOILER *******

According to some reports, Julie Bass of Oak Park, MI, decided to plant vegetables in her front yard, instead of the usual grass / flowers mixture. Apparently the city planner strongly disagreed, deeming the choice "unsuitable" and after giving her a fine decided to go further. The woman is facing 93 days in jail for her offense. It seems that the hearing will take place on July 26th.

The full story can be found here

Thanks to all who participated and to Enjay for the final solve.

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