| Author | Message | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 372 Registered: 9-2006 |
He got so curious that he decided to try. Seconds later he was completely insane. He: human, male | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14218 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are all "he"s the same? Is he an adult? Child? Teen? Insane: medically/psychologically? | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 373 Registered: 9-2006 |
Are all "he"s the same? Yes Is he an adult? No Child? Yes Teen? Insane: medically/psychologically? Both | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2769 Registered: 7-2009 |
Was he insane before he tried? | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 374 Registered: 9-2006 |
Was he insane before he tried? No | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1780 Registered: 12-2010 |
Is he an infant? toddler? 3-5 years old? 6-10? 11-13? Hbe decided to try... to find something? to do something? to see something? | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 375 Registered: 9-2006 |
Is he an infant? toddler? 3-5 years old? 6-10? 11-13? 7 years-old. He decided to try... to find something? Noish to do something? Yesish to see something? Yes | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1781 Registered: 12-2010 |
Did he become insane from something he saw? something he heard? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 4191 Registered: 9-2010 |
or (following on Doriana's questions) did he become insane from something he smelled? tasted? felt? | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 376 Registered: 9-2006 |
Did he become insane from something he saw? Noish something he heard? or (following on Doriana's questions) did he become insane from something he smelled? tasted? No to all felt? Yesish | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1783 Registered: 12-2010 |
Are any other people involved? If so, are they family? friends? teachers? class mates? Relevant where this happened? Indoors? Outdoors? his home? a public place? school? | ||
| Fionakelleghan (Fionakelleghan)
New member Username: Fionakelleghan Post Number: 272 Registered: 7-2011 |
How about alcohol / liquor or [shudder] something like moonshine? Did his insanity wear off? Or was it forever? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14238 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did he try to stare at the sun? And went blind? | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 377 Registered: 9-2006 |
Are any other people involved? Yes If so, are they family? Some of them, yes friends? teachers? class mates? No to the rest Relevant where this happened? Yes Indoors? Yes Outdoors? No his home? No a public place? Yes school? No How about alcohol / liquor or [shudder] something like moonshine? No Did his insanity wear off? Or was it forever? This Did he try to stare at the sun? And went blind? No to both | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 958 Registered: 1-2011 |
Did he feel something hot? cold? sharp? Did he touch a physical item? Did he feel it with his hands? legs? torso? head? Was he disabled (apart of being insane later)? | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 378 Registered: 9-2006 |
Did he feel something hot? cold? sharp? No Did he touch a physical item? No Did he feel it with his hands? legs? torso? head? No to all Was he disabled (apart of being insane later)? No | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4047 Registered: 9-2009 |
Drugs involved? Poisons? Was he physically injured? Would any kid go insane from what happened? Permanently? Would an adult? Is a specific type of insanity relevant? Is this a true story? FYOI? FSEI? I have a suspicion, emailed. | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2771 Registered: 7-2009 |
Is radiation relevant? A chemical? A poison? | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 379 Registered: 9-2006 |
Drugs involved? Yope Poisons? No Was he physically injured? No Would any kid go insane from what happened? Yes Permanently? Yes Would an adult? Yes Is a specific type of insanity relevant? Yesish Is this a true story? FYOI? FSEI? this I have a suspicion, emailed. I emailed you back! Is radiation relevant? no A chemical? Yope A poison? No | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1516 Registered: 2-2011 |
did he swallow something? inject something? rub something on his skin? inhale something? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1791 Registered: 12-2010 |
Gas leaks relevant? Prescription drugs relevant? Are [LTPF list of integers] people relevant? Are those that are family members his mum? das? siblings? grandparents? cousins? aunts? uncles? Did they try to stop him? Were they present when this happened? "type of insanity" - is it a personality disorder? if so, Paranoid personality disorder? Schizoid personality disorder? Schizotypal personality disorder? Antisocial personality disorder? Borderline personality disorder? Histrionic personality disorder? Narcissistic personality disorder? Avoidant personality disorder? Dependent personality disorder? Obsessive-compulsive personality disorder? Depressive personality disorder? Passive-aggressive personality disorder? Sadistic personality disorder? Self-defeating personality disorder (masochistic personality disorder)? (found this on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personality_disorder#World_Health_Organization) | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 4195 Registered: 9-2010 |
ooh, hey, an LTPF list of personality disorders! good job doriana kitteh! *wonders if it is one of them* | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 380 Registered: 9-2006 |
did he swallow something? No inject something? No rub something on his skin? No inhale something? No, but explore Gas Yes leaks No relevant? Prescription drugs relevant? No Are [LTPF list of integers] people relevant? Employees Are those that are family members his mum? Yes das? yes siblings? Sister grandparents? cousins? aunts? uncles? No to rest Did they try to stop him? Noish Were they present when this happened? Yes "type of insanity" - is it a personality disorder? if so, Irrelevant to find out the specific type of insanity. It's enough to know he got completely crazy | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1798 Registered: 12-2010 |
Inhaling helium relevant? Laughing gas relevant? A public place - a shop? a restaurant/fast food place? a movie theatre? park? zoo? theme park? museum? | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 381 Registered: 9-2006 |
Inhaling FA, explore helium No relevant? Laughing gas relevant? No A public place - a shop? a restaurant/fast food place? a movie theatre? park? zoo? theme park? museum? None of the above | ||
| Fionakelleghan (Fionakelleghan)
New member Username: Fionakelleghan Post Number: 292 Registered: 7-2011 |
Danielvs, if I say that "C.W." and "N.W." are connected to your puzzle, am I close? am I exact? This is a great puzzle, even if I'm totally wrong. You have a superb expertise for the sinister, mate! I'm sorry that my email isn't working. But I won't say another word. If I'm totally wrong, of course, you can just say "no" to what I wrote. Otherwise, I will watch in silence. GREAT idea for a puzzle, even if I am wrong! Cheers from rainy Miami, Fiona | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1520 Registered: 2-2011 |
if it's not inhaling, is it holding his breath? would someone else who did the same thing also have gone insane? did he have some sort of medical condition or predisposition before this happened? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1521 Registered: 2-2011 |
if it's not inhaling, is it holding his breath? would someone else who did the same thing also have gone insane? did he have some sort of medical condition or predisposition before this happened? | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 382 Registered: 9-2006 |
Danielvs, if I say that "C.W." and "N.W." are connected to your puzzle, am I close? am I exact? Hmmm... Sorry, I don't think so, but you can email me if you think you know the answer (that is, when you get your email fixed). This is a great puzzle, even if I'm totally wrong. You have a superb expertise for the sinister, mate! Thank you! Cheers from rainy Miami Cheers from sunny Sao Paulo, Brazil, even though it's winter down here! if it's not inhaling, is it holding his breath? YES!!!! would someone else who did the same thing also have gone insane? Yes, some have even died did he have some sort of medical condition or predisposition before this happened? No | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1817 Registered: 12-2010 |
Did his brain not get enough oxygen? | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 384 Registered: 9-2006 |
Did his brain not get enough oxygen? No, this is not the reason why he got insane | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14250 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did he tie something around his mouth or neck to try and hold his breath longer? | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 385 Registered: 9-2006 |
Did he tie something around his mouth or neck to try and hold his breath longer? No | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1546 Registered: 2-2011 |
had he breathed something in which did him damage because he didn't expel it? was he scuba diving? | ||
| Fionakelleghan (Fionakelleghan)
New member Username: Fionakelleghan Post Number: 305 Registered: 7-2011 |
Danielvs, I hate to give up a puzzle that feels richly emotional to me. May I (at least) ask whether your puzzle is film-connected? If so, my earlier query with the abbreviations might make more sense. | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 388 Registered: 9-2006 |
had he breathed something in No which did him damage because he didn't expel it? was he scuba diving? No Danielvs, I hate to give up a puzzle that feels richly emotional to me. May I (at least) ask whether your puzzle is film-connected? Hi Fiona! No, the story hasn't been turned into a movie as far as I know. You can ask more direct questions if you wish, just to make sure it's not the story you have in mind... Well, I guess there's no need to give up this puzzle! :o) | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 389 Registered: 9-2006 |
RECAP: A 7-year-old boy is in a public place with his dad, mum and sister. (...) he got so curious that he decided to try. So, he held his breath and seconds later he was completely and permanently insane. Other people who did the same thing (on different occasions) also got completely insane or died. | ||
| Fionakelleghan (Fionakelleghan)
New member Username: Fionakelleghan Post Number: 306 Registered: 7-2011 |
Oh! - More questions, but gotta run! More soon. Fiona | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 392 Registered: 9-2006 |
HINT: Sci-fi. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14288 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are they on Earth? In space? | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 393 Registered: 9-2006 |
Are they on Earth? Yes In space? No | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14298 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is it relevant where on Earth they were? Were they above sea level? Below? At? | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 394 Registered: 9-2006 |
Is it relevant where on Earth they were? No Were they above sea level? Below? At? Irrelevant | ||
| Wunderland (Wunderland)
New member Username: Wunderland Post Number: 1373 Registered: 3-2005 |
Was he holding his breath to avoid inhaling something harmful? | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 404 Registered: 9-2006 |
Was he holding his breath to avoid inhaling Yes something harmful? but no | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1565 Registered: 2-2011 |
was there a sudden change in atmospheric pressure? if he had breathed in, would he have inhaled something which would have prevented him going insane? | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 410 Registered: 9-2006 |
was there a sudden change in atmospheric pressure? I don't think so if he had breathed in, would he have inhaled something which would have prevented him going insane? YES!... but may be a FA | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1576 Registered: 2-2011 |
if he had breathed in, would he have breathed in air? | ||
| Sundowner (Sundowner)
New member Username: Sundowner Post Number: 870 Registered: 6-2003 |
Was he told all the time to never hold breath? because otherwise something bad would happen? he would go insane? Was it common knowledge in that era that holding one's breath would result in insanity? or was it a myth? which, due to unusual circumstances, proved true in the case of this boy? Relevant that the boy is 7 years old? would the same have happened to an adult who held his breath? Was the boy's insanity the result of holding breath and still something else? Did the boy have a genetic modification? that made him more prone to insanity? (was he genetically engineered in any way?) Would it help to narrow down the type of insanity? psychical disorder? dementia? amnesia? | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 414 Registered: 9-2006 |
if he had breathed in, would he have breathed in air? No Was he told all the time to never hold breath? Yes because otherwise something bad would happen? Exactly! he would go insane? irr Was it common knowledge in that era Wonderful!, explore that holding one's breath would result in insanity? Yes, but may contain FA or was it a myth? No which, due to unusual circumstances, proved true in the case of this boy? No Relevant that the boy is 7 years old? No would the same have happened to an adult who held his breath? Yes Was the boy's insanity the result of holding breath and still something else? YES!, explore Did the boy have a genetic modification? No that made him more prone to insanity? (was he genetically engineered in any way?) No Would it help to narrow down the type of insanity? psychical disorder? dementia? amnesia? No, irrelevant | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1583 Registered: 2-2011 |
would he have breathed in water? a gas? nitrogen? oxgen? | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 421 Registered: 9-2006 |
would he have breathed in water? No a gas? Yes nitrogen? oxgen? None | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1594 Registered: 2-2011 |
would he have breathed in a poisonous gas? and he was the only one who didn't so he was the last person left alive? | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 425 Registered: 9-2006 |
would he have breathed in a poisonous gas? No and he was the only one who didn't so he was the last person left alive? No, and FA | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14373 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was the atmosphere harmful? The gas: Carbon dioxide? Carbon monoxide? | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 430 Registered: 9-2006 |
Was the atmosphere harmful? No The gas: Carbon dioxide? Carbon monoxide? None of these. The specific gas is irrelevant, the important thing is its purpose. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1604 Registered: 2-2011 |
was the purpose of the gas to fill the lungs? and therefore prevent insanity? is the effect of the gas on the brain relevant? was it supposed to put them to sleep? diminish the senses? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1826 Registered: 8-2001 |
Following up on your hint: I'm thinking not based on a true story, yes? Based on a book? TV show? Movie? From your imagination? Is the "Earth" they are on identical to Earth as we know it? Time period relevant? Nowish? Are they moving at the time this occurs? Walking? Riding inside a conveyance of some sort? You answered that, had he inhaled, he would not have breathed in air, only a gas, but it is not relevant what gas - correct? Do humans in this universe no longer need respiration to live? (she ponders, since breathing in gas that contains NO oxygen would result in death for current human physiological parameters.) Is it relevant how they get oxygen in their blood? Are the people in this puzzle alive? Human? Is the gas always present? Is it what everyone breathes in all the time? Is it only around in certain places? Certain times? Is everyone getting a "dose" of something? Something needed for living? Something that controls behavior? Controls thought? Controls some physiological process (like ovulation, digestion, etc.)? | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 434 Registered: 9-2006 |
was the purpose of the gas to fill the lungs? Yes and therefore prevent insanity?Yope, may contain FA is the effect of the gas on the brain relevant? was it supposed to put them to sleep? YES, very ORT!!!!! diminish the senses? Following up on your hint: I'm thinking not based on a true story, yes? Not based on a true story Based on a book? Yes TV show? Movie? From your imagination? No to the rest Is the "Earth" they are on identical to Earth as we know it? Yes Time period relevant? YES!!!, explore Nowish? No Are they moving at the time this occurs? If you mean at the moment he holds his breath, then no. But... Walking? No Riding inside a conveyance of some sort? Not at the instant he holds his breath You answered that, had he inhaled, he would not have breathed in air, only a gas, but it is not relevant what gas - correct? Correct Do humans in this universe no longer need respiration to live? No, they need it to live (she ponders, since breathing in gas that contains NO oxygen would result in death for current human physiological parameters.) Is it relevant how they get oxygen in their blood? Irr Are the people in this puzzle alive? No Human? Yes Is the gas always present? In the atmosphere? No Is it what everyone breathes in all the time? No Is it only around in certain places? Around in the atmosphere? No Certain times? If you mean in the atmosphere, no Is everyone getting a "dose" of something? Yes Something needed for living? Yesish, but may lead to FA Something that controls behavior? No Controls thought? Controls some physiological process (like ovulation, digestion, etc.)? Yes, see the answer for Shez | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1827 Registered: 8-2001 |
I actually meant not in the atmosphere for these questions since you had already indicated that they were breathing in 100% of the unknown gas and 0% air (regular, atmospheric air)...So...reasking: Is the gas/dosage always present around these people? Are they breathing it all the time? At certain times of day? On certain days of the year? Following a certain other event? Before a certain other event? You had already answered that they were indoors... Is it what everyone breathes in, indoors, all the time? Is it only inside certain places? Inside one place? Time Period: 2000-2100? 2101-2200? Later? In Earth's Past? Are they in a pre-human time period? Exploring the making them sleep - Do they need to be asleep for some reason? To keep them from seeing something? Hearing something? To help keep them alive while some event happens? Are they unable to fall asleep with out the dose? Is it a natural sleep? Can they awake during it without intervention? Random shot in the dark: Are they on actual planet earth or do they just think they are? (I know you said book, but I can't stop thinking of "Dark City".) | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 436 Registered: 9-2006 |
I actually meant not in the atmosphere for these questions since you had already indicated that they FA were breathing in 100% of the unknown gas No and 0% air (regular, atmospheric air)...So...reasking: Is the gas/dosage always present around these people? No Are they breathing it all the time? No At certain times of day? No On certain days of the year? Not necessarily Following a certain other event? No Before a certain other event? YES, explore You had already answered that they were indoors... Yes Is it what everyone breathes in, indoors, all the time? No Is it only inside certain places? This Inside one place? Time Period: 2000-2100? 2101-2200? Later? 24th century In Earth's Past? So no Are they in a pre-human time period? Exploring the making them sleep - Do they need to be asleep for some reason? YES, explore To keep them from seeing something? Yesish Hearing something? To help keep them alive Yesish while some event happens? Yes Are they unable to fall asleep with out the dose? Yes, they need the gas to fall asleep Is it a natural sleep? No, I guess Can they awake during it without intervention? Let's assume no Random shot in the dark: Are they on actual planet earth This or do they just think they are? No (I know you said book, but I can't stop thinking of "Dark City".) No, that's not it (: | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1624 Registered: 2-2011 |
have they just arrived on earth? are they just about to leave a spaceship or time machine? or are they just about to leave the earth in a spaceship or time machine? are they about to travel through a wormhole? fly at fantastic speed? | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 437 Registered: 9-2006 |
have they just arrived on earth? No are they just about to leave a spaceship No or time machine? No or are they just about to leave the earth Yes in a spaceship No or time machine? Not exactly are they about to travel through a wormhole? Almost that fly at fantastic speed? No, not fly | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14400 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are they going into a hypersleep? | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 441 Registered: 9-2006 |
Are they going into a hypersleep? No | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14404 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are they about to time-travel? | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 443 Registered: 9-2006 |
Are they about to time-travel? No Well, I guess there's not much left to find out... So here it goes: ****************SPOILERS************************ This puzzle is based on the short story "The Jaunt", published on Stephen King's book "Skeleton Crew" (1985), a collecion of short stories. Although I'm not a biiiig fan of Stephen King, I love sci-fi and found this story pretty amazing and never forgot it. For sci-fi lovers out there, I highly recommend reading it. It's short, you won't take more than a couple of hours to read it. XXIV century. Teleportation (known as "Jaunting"), is commonplace now, and has replaced airplanes and spaceships. As a family waits at the lounge to be jaunted to Mars, the father explains to their children the curious circumstances of the discovery of teleportation. He tells them how the scientist who developed it started the experiences with mice, and how the effect on them was at first inexplicable and disturbing: the teleported mice would either die instantly or behave strangely before dying moments later. Eventually, he realizes that the mice could only survive the "Jaunt effect" while unconscious. (However, he refrains from telling his children the gruesome account of what happened to the first human to be jaunted while conscious, a condemned murderer who was offered full pardon for agreeing with the experiment. The man 'came through' and immediately had a heart attack, having said only a single sentence: 'It's eternity in there'). The reason for the "Jaunt effect" is that while physically the process occurs almost instantaneously (<0.000000007 seconds), to a conscious mind it lasts an eternity and beyond; one is simply left alone with his thoughts for an unthinkable length of time (estimated billions of years), the result being that the mind will either shut itself down or be driven insane. (Don't read below if you intend to read the original short story). Listening to his father, the boy got so curious to know what lied 'out there' that he decided to find out. He held his breath when the mask with the gas was placed over his face (in order to be conscious while getting jaunted), and emerged on Mars completely insane, hair white with shock, corneas yellowed with age; he confirmed the terrible nature of the conscious Jaunt: "Longer than you think, Dad! It's longer than you think!". He had seen the unseeable forever and ever, and clawed his eyes out before the Jaunt attendants wheeled him away. Congratulations to Galfisk (who discovered quite early what this puzzle was about) and to all of you who participated, especially Balin and Shez, who never gave up. =) | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14411 Registered: 4-2010 |
Wow, that sounds insane indeed! Great puzzle! | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4192 Registered: 9-2009 |
The short story is available for free online here: http://www.epubbud.com/read.php?g=T5DCB524&p=1 I'm almost done reading it again. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1633 Registered: 2-2011 |
great puzzle, thanks |
