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Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 1822 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Monday, August 15, 2011 - 9:39 am: |      |
When Nick took his new t-shirt out of the laundry machine, he got really angry. This puzzle is based on a recent event that got a lot of media attention in Germany. I don't know about other countries, but in any case - early $poilerz please e-mail. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 14269 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, August 15, 2011 - 2:35 pm: |      |
Is it relevant that the shirt was new? Had he worn it before? Nick = H? A? M? Is any other person relevant? Angry -- at himself? At the shirt? The machine? Someone else? |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 3551 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Monday, August 15, 2011 - 3:21 pm: |      |
Did the event occur in Germany? Any political considerations? is the term "Blueshirt" relevant? |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 1560 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Monday, August 15, 2011 - 4:02 pm: |      |
please see email |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 1824 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Monday, August 15, 2011 - 4:14 pm: |      |
Is it relevant that the shirt was new? yes Had he worn it before? maybe once Nick = H? A? M? yes Is any other person relevant? yes Angry -- at himself? At the shirt? The machine? Someone else? probably at all of them, but mostly at someone else Did the event occur in Germany? yes Any political considerations? yes is the term "Blueshirt" relevant? no please see email replied |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 14278 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, August 15, 2011 - 5:45 pm: |      |
Other person(s) relevant: just one? 2? 3? More? Lots more? H? A? M? |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 1825 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Monday, August 15, 2011 - 5:48 pm: |      |
Other person(s) relevant: just one? 2? 3? More? Lots more? more... H? A? M? but one H/A/irrel is directly relevant. Feel free to choose a name |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 14280 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, August 15, 2011 - 5:53 pm: |      |
How about Courtney? That's a unisex name. Is the washing machine in a public place? In a house? In Nick's house? In Courtney's? |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 1826 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Monday, August 15, 2011 - 5:56 pm: |      |
How about Courtney? That's a unisex name. ok Is the washing machine in a public place? In a house? In Nick's house? assume it's in Nick's house In Courtney's? no |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 14282 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, August 15, 2011 - 6:41 pm: |      |
Just making sure -- is this a washing machine? Or a dryer? |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 1827 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Monday, August 15, 2011 - 6:45 pm: |      |
Just making sure -- is this a washing machine? Or a dryer? a washing machine |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 3555 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 11:42 am: |      |
Did the T-shirt change colour in the wash? Was it blue to begin with? Did it turn brown? Nazis or neo-nazis relevant? |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 1829 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 12:09 pm: |      |
Did the T-shirt change colour in the wash? noish, but explore Was it blue to begin with? no Did it turn brown? no Nazis or neo-nazis relevant? YES, neo-nazis, very good q |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 3556 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 2:01 pm: |      |
Hmm could the condition of the T-shirt when it came out of the machine have implied that Nick was a neo-nazi? Was Nick in fact a neo-nazi? Did the garment shrink by any chance? Was he attempting to wash something off his t-shirt and failed? Are swastikas relevant? |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 1830 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 2:09 pm: |      |
Hmm could the condition of the T-shirt when it came out of the machine have implied that Nick was a neo-nazi? no Was Nick in fact a neo-nazi? YES Did the garment shrink by any chance? no Was he attempting to wash something off his t-shirt and failed? no Are swastikas relevant? no |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 14291 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 3:19 pm: |      |
Is Courtney a neo-nazi as well? Did the color of the shirt fade? Is the shirt's color relevant? |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 1831 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 3:20 pm: |      |
Is Courtney a neo-nazi as well? NO, good q! Did the color of the shirt fade? yope, explore Is the shirt's color relevant? yesish |
Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica
Post Number: 1778 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 4:42 pm: |      |
Did the shirt color fade in the wash? Did part of the shirt color bleed into another area of the shirt? Does the shirt, now washed, imply that Nick is not a Neo-Nazi? Does it imply that he is part of some other group? |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 1834 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 5:17 pm: |      |
Did the shirt color fade in the wash? yope Did part of the shirt color bleed into another area of the shirt? no Does the shirt, now washed, imply that Nick is not a Neo-Nazi? yes Does it imply that he is part of some other group? noish, but explore |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 14303 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 5:32 pm: |      |
Does Courtney know Nick is a neo-nazi? Does Nick know that Courtney isn't? Is Courtney's relationship to Nick relevant? |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 1837 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 7:00 pm: |      |
Does Courtney know Nick is a neo-nazi? yes Does Nick know that Courtney isn't? no - important q's! Is Courtney's relationship to Nick relevant? yes, they're strangers |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 14310 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 7:36 pm: |      |
Does Courtney know Nick is a neo-nazi because of the shirt? Did Nick take anything else out of the washing machine? Had he put anything else in? |
Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs
Post Number: 399 Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 7:40 pm: |      |
Was there something written on the T-shirt? Something that got washed out (partly or completely)? |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 1840 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 7:45 pm: |      |
Does Courtney know Nick is a neo-nazi because of the shirt? no Did Nick take anything else out of the washing machine? irrel Had he put anything else in? irrel Was there something written on the T-shirt? YES Something that got washed out (partly or completely)? yes, investigate |
Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs
Post Number: 402 Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 7:57 pm: |      |
Was it written in German? (Ich spreche kein Deutsch!!! :o) ). Did one or more letters vanish? Was it a sentence? A word? |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 1841 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 8:01 pm: |      |
Was it written in German? yes, but irrel (Ich spreche kein Deutsch!!! :o) ). Did one or more letters vanish? all of them vanished - explore Was it a sentence? A word? several words, but they didn't form a complete sentence - more like a slogan |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 14314 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 8:56 pm: |      |
Did the letters leave an imprint on the shirt? Did it read something else? |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 1842 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 9:29 pm: |      |
Did the letters leave an imprint on the shirt? no Did it read something else? yes |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 3557 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 10:08 pm: |      |
Did Nick have a tattoo? |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 1843 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 10:20 pm: |      |
Did Nick have a tattoo? irrel |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 14320 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 12:15 am: |      |
Did all of the letters completely fade? Partially fade? Did some completely fade and some partially fade? |
Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs
Post Number: 408 Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 2:39 am: |      |
Content of the 'slogan': racist? related to neo-nazi ideas? If all the letters vanished, was there something left on the T-shirt, such as a symbol? somthing else? |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 1844 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 8:44 am: |      |
Did all of the letters completely fade? this Partially fade? Did some completely fade and some partially fade? no to rest Content of the 'slogan': racist? no related to neo-nazi ideas? yesish If all the letters vanished, was there something left on the T-shirt, such as a symbol? yes, but not a symbol somthing else? so, this HINT: Find out more about Courtney's role |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 14329 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 2:01 pm: |      |
Does Courtney's role involve the shirt? The laundry? The washing machine? |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 1848 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 5:03 pm: |      |
Does Courtney's role involve the shirt? this, no to rest The laundry? The washing machine? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 14345 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 6:37 pm: |      |
Did Courtney sell Nick the shirt? Did he make it? |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 1850 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 8:21 pm: |      |
Did Courtney sell Nick the shirt? not sell, but... Did he make it? yesish |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin
Post Number: 4230 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 8:23 pm: |      |
give it to Nick? |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 1851 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 8:36 pm: |      |
give it to Nick? yes I think a little RECAP might be helpful. Let's see what we have found out so far... Nick is a neo-nazi, Courtney is not. Courtney, who knows that Nick is a neo-nazi, gives him a t-shirt with a nationalist slogan. When Nick takes it out of the washing machine, the slogan has faded completely and something else was visible on the t-shirt. |
Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs
Post Number: 432 Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Friday, August 19, 2011 - 7:51 am: |      |
Did Nick get angry at Courtney because, after seeing what was now visible on the T-shirt, he realized Courtney was not a neo-nazi (contrary to what he had thought)? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 14384 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Friday, August 19, 2011 - 2:28 pm: |      |
The "something else" visible -- did it make fun of Nick? Of neo-nazis? |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 1855 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Friday, August 19, 2011 - 4:51 pm: |      |
Did Nick get angry at Courtney because, after seeing what was now visible on the T-shirt, he realized Courtney was not a neo-nazi (contrary to what he had thought)? yes with a slight ish The "something else" visible -- did it make fun of Nick? Of neo-nazis? DOYD of "make fun of", but explore Two very helpful questions (: |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 14392 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Friday, August 19, 2011 - 8:13 pm: |      |
Was there an image on the shirt as well? Did that wash away too? Part of it? |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 1856 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, August 20, 2011 - 12:24 am: |      |
Was there an image on the shirt as well? yes Did that wash away too? Part of it? part of it |
Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs
Post Number: 439 Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, August 20, 2011 - 12:51 am: |      |
Did Courtney know the letters would vanish after the washing process? And that there was such an image underneath the slogan? Was Courtney trying to teach Nick a lesson (I mean, trying to make Nick change his neo-nazi ideas)? |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 1857 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, August 20, 2011 - 10:55 am: |      |
Did Courtney know the letters would vanish after the washing process? yes And that there was such an image underneath the slogan? yes Was Courtney trying to teach Nick a lesson (I mean, trying to make Nick change his neo-nazi ideas)? yes! Very good round of q's, and we have found everything for the ********SPOILER******** Courtney works for an organisation called Exit that tries to convince neo-nazis to change their ideas. At a right-wing concert, he and his co-workers give out free t-shirts with a skull and the slogan "Hardcore Rebels - National and Free." Nick gets one of those t-shirts and takes it home where he washes it. Too bad there's a hidden message on the t-shirt: When he takes it out of the washing machine, the original slogan has faded and now it reads "If your T-shirt can do it, so can you. We'll help free you from right-wing extremism." So of course, Nick gets really angry. http://gizmodo.com/5829551/free-t+shirts-given-to-neo+nazis-contained-a-secret-message-after-being-washed Thanks for playing, nice work! Thumbs up for Balin and Danielvs as well as for Galfisk and Shez who sent me correct early spoilers (: |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 14405 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, August 20, 2011 - 2:36 pm: |      |
Funny and clever! |
Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs
Post Number: 442 Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, August 20, 2011 - 9:14 pm: |      |
Interesting puzzle! I just wonder how these guys would be 'brain-washed'... =) |