| Author | Message | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 15075 Registered: 4-2010 |
Molly would have been killed were it not for the fish. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2035 Registered: 2-2011 |
Molly = H/A/F? fish = plural? real fish? live? would Molly have been murdered? died in an accident? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 4468 Registered: 9-2010 |
Cockles and mussels? Was it in Dublin's fair city? =) | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2887 Registered: 7-2009 |
Fish = in the ocean? in a lake/pond? In a river/creek? In some other body of water? In an aquarium? On someone's plate? In someone's belly? Lying on the shore of someplace? In a boat? In a net or trap? Fake fish in some representational form (e.g. artwork, toys, a Jesus fish)? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 15076 Registered: 4-2010 |
Molly = H/A/F? Yes fish = plural? Singular real fish? Yes, in the context of the puzzle) live? No would Molly have been murdered? Yes died in an accident? Cockles and mussels? Was it in Dublin's fair city? =) No, but bonus points for knowing the inspiration of the puzzle (and title) Fish = in the ocean? in a lake/pond? In a river/creek? In some other body of water? In an aquarium? On someone's plate? In someone's belly? Lying on the shore of someplace? In a boat? In a net or trap? Fake fish in some representational form (e.g. artwork, toys, a Jesus fish)? No to all | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3514 Registered: 1-2001 |
A mounted fish? A fish that was once alive? Is the type of fish relevant? Is the location of the fish relevant? Did Molly use the fish in some way? Would anyone else besides Molly have been murdered if it were not for the fish? Was anyone else murdered even though Molly was not? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 15088 Registered: 4-2010 |
A mounted fish? No A fish that was once alive? Yes Is the type of fish relevant? Not particularly Is the location of the fish relevant? Yes Did Molly use the fish in some way? Yope Would anyone else besides Molly have been murdered if it were not for the fish? No Was anyone else murdered even though Molly was not? No | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3517 Registered: 1-2001 |
Is the size of the fish relevant? Its color? Its weight? Any feature of the fish? Did Molly ever own the fish? Was it her pet at one time? Was it someone else's pet? Was it a fish that had been caught in the wild? | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 771 Registered: 6-2009 |
Fishing relevant? (Recreational? Commercial?) Was the fish in North America? Europe? Was someone trying to kill Molly specifically? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4895 Registered: 5-2003 |
Was the fish in water? Was it alive at the time? Did Molly see it? Use it in some way? Could the murderer afterwards have tried again? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 15094 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the size of the fish relevant? No Its color? No Its weight? No Any feature of the fish? DOYD of "feature" Did Molly ever own the fish? DOYD of "own" Was it her pet at one time? No Was it someone else's pet? No Was it a fish that had been caught in the wild? No Fishing relevant? (Recreational? Commercial?) No Was the fish in North America? Europe? This could happen at places all over the world. Assume whichever you like. Was someone trying to kill Molly specifically? Yopish Was the fish in water? No Was it alive at the time? No Did Molly see it? Not when it saved her life Use it in some way? No Could the murderer afterwards have tried again? No | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4901 Registered: 5-2003 |
Is this a simulation of a fish? Is Molly playing a game? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 15099 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is this a simulation of a fish? No Is Molly playing a game? No | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4902 Registered: 5-2003 |
Did Molly care for the fish? Is anyone else besides Molly and the murderer relevant? Any non-human element besides the fish relevant? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 15100 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did Molly care for the fish? No Is anyone else besides Molly and the murderer relevant? Yes Any non-human element besides the fish relevant? No | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 15101 Registered: 4-2010 |
OOPER-BLAY: Is anyone else besides Molly and the murderer relevant? Yes, but not to most of the puzzle scenario. So you can assume No and solve it. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 4472 Registered: 9-2010 |
I not only know the song, I started humming it after reading the puzzle title, and it's still stuck in my head. Should I examine the lyrics of "Molly Malone" in more depth to find hints to this puzzle? Or would that not be a fruitful line of inquiry? does it matter that it was a fish? Could Molly have just as easily been saved by a cheezburgur? =) (I had to ask) | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2038 Registered: 2-2011 |
was the fish cooked? did someone eat the fish? did Molly? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 15103 Registered: 4-2010 |
I not only know the song, I started humming it after reading the puzzle title, and it's still stuck in my head. Should I examine the lyrics of "Molly Malone" in more depth to find hints to this puzzle? Or would that not be a fruitful line of inquiry? The song will not help you solve the puzzle does it matter that it was a fish? Yes Could Molly have just as easily been saved by a cheezburgur? Probably not =) (I had to ask) was the fish cooked? No did someone eat the fish? No did Molly? No | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3520 Registered: 1-2001 |
Did Molly ever realize that she was in any danger? Or did the fish somehow divert the murderer so that he/she never directly threatened Molly? So this fish had once been alive - had it died shortly before it somehow prevented Molly's death? Long before? Did Molly ever know that the fish existed? Was there more than one fish at any time? Had Molly ever seen the fish that saved her life? Is the fish the only factor in saving Molly's life? Or are other factors relevant? This all reminds me the line from the movie 'Ghost', said by Whoopi Goldberg's character Oda Mae: "Molly...you in danger, girl." | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2890 Registered: 7-2009 |
Was the fish in a freezer? refrigerator? grocery store? fish market? a dream? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 15107 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did Molly ever realize that she was in any danger? Yes Or did the fish somehow divert the murderer No so that he/she never directly threatened Molly? Yes So this fish had once been alive - had it died shortly before it somehow prevented Molly's death? Long before? This Did Molly ever know that the fish existed? Yes Was there more than one fish at any time? Assume no Had Molly ever seen the fish that saved her life? Yes Is the fish the only factor in saving Molly's life? Yes Or are other factors relevant? Not really This all reminds me the line from the movie 'Ghost', said by Whoopi Goldberg's character Oda Mae: "Molly...you in danger, girl." "You can't just blurt it out like that!" Was the fish in a freezer? At one point, yes! refrigerator? grocery store? fish market? a dream? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4904 Registered: 5-2003 |
Was the fish prepared in some way? How long before it saved Molly did the fish die? - Seconds, minutes, hours, days, weeks, months, years, decades, centuries? How soon before? Or after? it saved Molly was the fish placed in a freezer? Was the fish owned at any point by someone relevant? | ||
| Fionakelleghan (Fionakelleghan)
New member Username: Fionakelleghan Post Number: 358 Registered: 7-2011 |
Did Molly give the fish to her cat or her dog? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2047 Registered: 2-2011 |
was the fish frozen? did Molly use it as a weapon do defend herself? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2048 Registered: 2-2011 |
was the fish frozen? did Molly use it as a weapon do defend herself? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 15110 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was the fish prepared in some way? No How long before it saved Molly did the fish die? Irrel; it had been in her freezer, but it doesn't matter exactly how long - Seconds, minutes, hours, days, weeks, months, years, decades, centuries? How soon before? Or after? it saved Molly was the fish placed in a freezer? Say a couple days before Was the fish owned at any point by someone relevant? "Owned" when it was alive? No Did Molly give the fish to her cat or her dog? No was the fish frozen? At one point did Molly use it as a weapon do defend herself? No | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3522 Registered: 1-2001 |
Was the fish thawed when it saved Molly's life? Was it still intact (looked like it did when it was alive)? Or chopped up? Sliced? De-boned/filleted? Beheaded? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 15114 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was the fish thawed when it saved Molly's life? Yes, at least partially Was it still intact (looked like it did when it was alive)? Yes Or chopped up? Sliced? De-boned/filleted? Beheaded? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2052 Registered: 2-2011 |
did someone slip on it and fall? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 15116 Registered: 4-2010 |
did someone slip on it and fall? No | ||
| Fionakelleghan (Fionakelleghan)
New member Username: Fionakelleghan Post Number: 370 Registered: 7-2011 |
Did Molly use the fish as a counter-threat? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2055 Registered: 2-2011 |
when the fish started to defrost did it smell bad? and that warned Molly? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 15118 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did Molly use the fish as a counter-threat? No when the fish started to defrost did it smell bad? Yes!! and that warned Molly? Yes!!f | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3526 Registered: 1-2001 |
Had someone taken the fish out of the freezer? Had the freezer lost power, causing the fish to thaw? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 15127 Registered: 4-2010 |
Had someone taken the fish out of the freezer? Yes Had the freezer lost power, causing the fish to thaw? No | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3527 Registered: 1-2001 |
Had Molly taken the fish out of the freezer? Someone else? Had anything else been taken out of the freezer? Did Molly see the freezer open? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 15132 Registered: 4-2010 |
Had Molly taken the fish out of the freezer? NO Someone else? Yes Had anything else been taken out of the freezer? Yes Did Molly see the freezer open? No | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2076 Registered: 2-2011 |
did the smell of the fish alert Molly to the fact that someone had removed something from the freezer? the other thing - food? a weapon? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 15136 Registered: 4-2010 |
did the smell of the fish alert Molly to the fact that someone had removed something from the freezer? Yope the other thing - food? Many things had been removed from the freezer, all foodstuffs, but... a weapon? | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 826 Registered: 7-2006 |
Some murder scenarios in LTPF have famously used ice as the murder weapon. Is this such a scenario? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 15139 Registered: 4-2010 |
Some murder scenarios in LTPF have famously used ice as the murder weapon. Is this such a scenario? No | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3528 Registered: 1-2001 |
Did the person who removed items from the freezer want to kill Molly? Was the freezer in Molly's house? Were items removed from the freezer by someone who was looking for something specific in the freezer? Had Molly hidden something in the freezer? Was something encased in ice? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 15143 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did the person who removed items from the freezer want to kill Molly? Noish Was the freezer in Molly's house? Yes Were items removed from the freezer by someone who was looking for something specific in the freezer? Yes Had Molly hidden something in the freezer? No Was something encased in ice? No | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2088 Registered: 2-2011 |
was the person looking for a food item? a weapon? money? drugs? had this person hidden something there? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 15146 Registered: 4-2010 |
was the person looking for a food item? a weapon? money? This drugs? had this person hidden something there? No | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3529 Registered: 1-2001 |
Did the person think that Molly had hidden money in the freezer? Had Molly ever actually hidden money in the freezer? Was money ever put in the freezer unbeknowst to Molly? Was Molly at her house when the person took the items out of the freezer? Or did she arrive home, smell fish, realize that someone had been there and may still be there? So she didn't go inside further, but went elsewhere to call the police? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 15152 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did the person think that Molly had hidden money in the freezer? No, but he hoped she had Had Molly ever actually hidden money in the freezer? No Was money ever put in the freezer unbeknowst to Molly? No Was Molly at her house when the person took the items out of the freezer? No... Or did she arrive home, smell fish, realize that someone had been there and may still be there? So she didn't go inside further, but went elsewhere to call the police? ...exactly. **********SPOILER********** A man broke into Molly's house and was searching for money. Knowing that some people keep money in the freezer, he searched there; finding nothing, he returned everything to the freezer. However, he missed a fish that had been in there. The burglar kept searching the house while the fish thawed and began to smell. When Molly came home, she smelled the fish and realized that someone had been in her house, so she left to call the police. As it happened, the burglar was still in the house and would have killed Molly if she hadn't smelled the fish and had wandered in on him. Bueno solve, everyone. New puzzle below, and someone wake up my other two ("Awareness isn't everything" and "Taking a chess break"), which haven't been posted on in a while. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2099 Registered: 2-2011 |
great puzzle Balin |
