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Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Wednesday, December 21, 2011 - 3:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It turns out I was mistaken about the weaponry.

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This is a Christmas-related puzzle
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Posted on Wednesday, December 21, 2011 - 4:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hmm, I don't really know where to start, but I'll try anyway.

Are we talking about "weaponry" in the literal sense, i.e. objects that you use to fight, kill or cause damage? If so, firearms? explosives? nuclear weapons? chemical weapons? biological weapons?

Was the weaponry used by anyone? By one person? more than one? an army? in a war?
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Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2011 - 1:57 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hmm, I don't really know where to start, but I'll try anyway.

Are we talking about "weaponry" in the literal sense, i.e. objects that you use to fight, kill or cause damage? Yes If so, firearms? explosives? nuclear weapons? chemical weapons? biological weapons? None of these

Was the weaponry used by anyone? By one person? more than one? an army? in a war? No to all
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Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2011 - 10:46 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are we talking about contemporary weapons? historical weapons?
Are white weapons relevant? Is the relevant weapons used to kill? to sports?
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Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2011 - 10:54 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is this a scrund Balin? Perhaps a misheard lyric from a christmas song?
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Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2011 - 10:54 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Nice puzzle title btw
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2011 - 4:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are we talking about contemporary weapons? historical weapons? More this
Are white weapons relevant? What are white weapons? Is the relevant weapons used to kill? to sports? Can be both; it's used more for sports now

Is this a scrund Balin? Perhaps a misheard lyric from a christmas song? Exactly

Nice puzzle title btw Thank you!
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Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2011 - 6:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are the lyrics in English?

Is it a traditional Christmas song? A modern one (e.g. Last Christmas)?

Does the song speak of weapons at all?
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Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2011 - 8:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are the lyrics in English? Yes

Is it a traditional Christmas song? Yes A modern one (e.g. Last Christmas)? No, but I admit that song is a bit of a guilty pleasure

Does the song speak of weapons at all? No
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Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2011 - 8:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ok, I don't know many English Christmas songs... especially not traditional ones. Nevertheless, is it
Silent Night, Holy Night?
Twelve Days of Christmas?
Joy to the world?
We wish you a merry Christmas?
Hark! The Herals Angels Sing?
(Probably quite a random list, but those are the only ones that I can think of, and I don't want to copy the wikipedia list of Christmas carols...)
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2011 - 9:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ok, I don't know many English Christmas songs... especially not traditional ones. Nevertheless, is it
Silent Night, Holy Night?
Twelve Days of Christmas?
Joy to the world?
We wish you a merry Christmas?
Hark! The Herals Angels Sing?
(Probably quite a random list, but those are the only ones that I can think of, and I don't want to copy the wikipedia list of Christmas carols...) None of these. I will add that it is a religious song.
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Posted on Friday, December 23, 2011 - 9:52 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the relevant song O come all ye faithful?

Ok, if not white weapons, it's probably called cold weapons, "non-firearm type weapon used for self-defense or killing including swords, daggers, sticks, and batons among others". Is that relevant?
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Posted on Friday, December 23, 2011 - 10:54 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I know it's not christmassy but is it something like the classic 'Axe of the Apostles'
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Posted on Friday, December 23, 2011 - 1:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the relevant song O come all ye faithful? No

Ok, if not white weapons, it's probably called cold weapons, "non-firearm type weapon used for self-defense or killing including swords, daggers, sticks, and batons among others". Is that relevant? OK, according to the Wikipedia article, it is a cold weapon.

I know it's not christmassy but is it something like the classic 'Axe of the Apostles' Ha! No
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Posted on Friday, December 23, 2011 - 8:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

yellow card Peter
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yellow card Peter May I ask as to what foul?
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Posted on Saturday, December 24, 2011 - 1:55 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it a sword? a knife? a crossbow?
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Posted on Saturday, December 24, 2011 - 3:52 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it a sword? No a knife? No a crossbow? No, but OTRT
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Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2011 - 12:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it a bow?
In the text you hear(d), is there any relevant action taken with the weaponry? If yes, is this action taken by a biblical figure?
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Is it a projectile weapon? Is it sharp? Heavy? Deadly?
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Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2011 - 1:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

or a catapult?
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Posted on Friday, December 30, 2011 - 5:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

a migrating coconut! =)
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jet-propelled cheezburgur?
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Posted on Saturday, December 31, 2011 - 12:44 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

why did I not think of that, shez kitteh???
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Posted on Tuesday, January 03, 2012 - 4:35 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it a bow? No, but so close...
In the text you hear(d), is there any relevant action taken with the weaponry? No, FA If yes, is this action taken by a biblical figure?

Is it a projectile weapon? Yes Is it sharp? Yes Heavy? No Deadly? Yes

or a catapult? a migrating coconut! =) jet-propelled cheezburgur? No to these
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a crossbow?
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Posted on Tuesday, January 03, 2012 - 4:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

an arrow? a spear? a (poison) dart? And the cheezburgur guess was so good, too...*sigh* Are you sure it wasn't a migrating coconut? =P
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Posted on Tuesday, January 03, 2012 - 5:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

a crossbow? an arrow? This a spear? a (poison) dart?
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Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2012 - 9:13 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

sorry Balin - didn't answer your question about the yellow card - Axe of the Apostles!
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sorry Balin - didn't answer your question about the yellow card - Axe of the Apostles! Fair enough. But I kind of enjoy bad puns.
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Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2012 - 11:29 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I now have a terrible feeling about where this puzzle is going..
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I now have a terrible feeling about where this puzzle is going.. You shouldn't. Given that it's a mondegreen, it's obviously going to be something fairly dumb.
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the dumber the better
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Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2012 - 4:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

the dumber the better Thanks for the assurance.

RECAP:

I misheard a lyric to a Christmas carol. The mishearing involves the word "arrow."
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Posted on Friday, January 06, 2012 - 5:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hmm... O Holy Night? Long lay the world in sin and "arrow" pining?
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Posted on Friday, January 06, 2012 - 8:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hmm... O Holy Night? Long lay the world in sin and "arrow" pining? Yes!

**********SPOILER**********

For most of my life, I always thought the Christmas carol "O Holy Night" included the line "Long lay the world in sin and arrow pining." This made sense to me, as I assumed the lyricist had used "arrow" to represent pain and suffering. However, I was descrunded only days before I posted the puzzle; the lyric is, of course, "error," not "arrow."

Nice work everyone, especially Kalira for that last step. New puzzle (s) soon.
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Again we manage to have the same scrund, although I never really gave much thought to the 'why' of it...
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Posted on Friday, January 06, 2012 - 9:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So I wasn't the only one who thought this? That makes me feel a little less stupid (emphasis on "a little")...
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Posted on Saturday, January 07, 2012 - 12:02 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Awwww. I can see why you might have the scrund, Balin...although when I learned the song, I learned it from a songbook, so I couldn't possibly get scrunded! *hugs Balin*
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Posted on Saturday, January 07, 2012 - 1:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

it's a beautiful carol too, and one we never hear in England
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Posted on Saturday, January 07, 2012 - 2:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Nice one Balin. We sang this at the my wife's grandmother's bedside minutes after she'd passed away on Christmas eve night. It just felt right for some reason.
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Posted on Monday, January 09, 2012 - 3:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Shez, you never hear that one in England? That's interesting -- it's all over the place here during the season. Hmm... I wonder if you hear ones over there that we rarely hear here.

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