| Author | Message | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3834 Registered: 1-2007 |
Based on a true story this one. It actually happened to my sister. A woman meets an old friend and asks her whether she enjoyed Rome. The friend responds "How on earth did you know I was in Rome we haven't spoken in ages? How did the woman know? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1887 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did she (the friend visiting Rome) used some Roman colloquialism? Relevant what she was wearing? Did she make a comment about something that was a hint to her friend that she was in Rome? Did she order some specific Roman dish in a restaurant? Are the habits of ordinary Romans relevant? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 16152 Registered: 4-2010 |
"When in Rome, do as the Romans do" relevant? Did the woman know the friend had visited Rome before their conversation? Before they met? Did she figure it out during their conversation? During their meeting? Was there even any conversation before the question about Rome? Would the puzzle work for other Italian cities? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3836 Registered: 1-2007 |
Did she (the friend visiting Rome) used some Roman colloquialism? No Relevant what she was wearing? No Did she make a comment about something that was a hint to her friend that she was in Rome? No Did she order some specific Roman dish in a restaurant? No Are the habits of ordinary Romans relevant? no | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3837 Registered: 1-2007 |
"When in Rome, do as the Romans do" relevant? No Did the woman know the friend had visited Rome before their conversation? Yes Before they met? Yes Did she figure it out during their conversation? No During their meeting? No Was there even any conversation before the question about Rome? No Would the puzzle work for other Italian cities? It could but in this instance only Rome would work | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 16155 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is a third party relevant? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3838 Registered: 1-2007 |
Is a third party relevant? Yesish | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2596 Registered: 2-2011 |
was her bottom black and blue? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1310 Registered: 1-2011 |
Did the woman see photo(s) of the friend in Rome? Did someone tell the woman about the friend in Rome? Did a mutual friend/acquaitance see the friend i Rome and told the woman? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3839 Registered: 1-2007 |
was her bottom black and blue? Emm no. You might explain that one to me | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3840 Registered: 1-2007 |
Did the woman see photo(s) of the friend in Rome? no Did someone tell the woman about the friend in Rome? No Did a mutual friend/acquaitance see the friend i Rome and told the woman? No | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1889 Registered: 9-2009 |
The third party: gender relevant? age? nationality? More than one person? May we call the friend Mary and the woman being in Rome Laura? If yes, was the third party a relative of Mary? Friend? Acquaintance? Total stranger? Same questions for Laura, please. | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3849 Registered: 1-2007 |
The third party: gender relevant? No age? No nationality? No More than one person? Yes May we call the friend Mary and the woman being in Rome Laura? Absolutely If yes, was the third party a relative of Mary? Friend? Acquaintance? Total stranger? Well it's more than one person who would be unknown to her on an individual basis Same questions for Laura, please. Same Answer | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 16187 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did the third party have any sort of contact with Mary? With Laura? In a professional capacity? Was the third party a mailman? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1892 Registered: 9-2009 |
More than one person: less than 10? 100? 1000? More? Are they a group defined by their profession? Are they tourists? Is it relevant where the conversation between Laura and Mary took place? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3853 Registered: 1-2007 |
Did the third party have any sort of contact with Mary? No With Laura? Yes In a professional capacity? Yes Was the third party a mailman? No | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3854 Registered: 1-2007 |
More than one person: less than 10? 100? 1000? About this I would say More? Are they a group defined by their profession? Yes Are they tourists? No Is it relevant where the conversation between Laura and Mary took place? No | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2616 Registered: 2-2011 |
are they a group who went to a convention? are they in the entertainment industry? airlines? hotels? travel? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2617 Registered: 2-2011 |
are they a group who went to a convention? are they in the entertainment industry? airlines? hotels? travel? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3857 Registered: 1-2007 |
are they a group who went to a convention? No are they in the entertainment industry? airlines? Yes the relevant 3rd party is an airline hotels? travel? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 16195 Registered: 4-2010 |
Frequent flyer miles relevant? Did Mary work for the airline? Did Laura? Did either of them fly by the airline? Mary? Laura? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3863 Registered: 1-2007 |
Frequent flyer miles relevant? No Did Mary work for the airline? Did Laura? Neither did Did either of them fly by the airline? Yes Mary? No Laura? Yes | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 16199 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did Laura fly that airline to Rome? From Rome? (Just making sure, in lateral puzzles you never know) | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3870 Registered: 1-2007 |
Did Laura fly that airline to Rome? From Rome? both in fact(Just making sure, in lateral puzzles you never know)Always pays to check an assumption | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1330 Registered: 1-2011 |
Did Laura get anything from the airline, which only passengers to/from Rome get? Is marking the luggage with the codes of the airport relevant? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3873 Registered: 1-2007 |
Did Laura get anything from the airline, which only passengers to/from Rome get? No Is marking the luggage with the codes of the airport relevant? No but nice thought | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1897 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is it relevant what exactly the airline was? Or this could work with any airline? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3875 Registered: 1-2007 |
Is it relevant what exactly the airline was? Or this could work with any airline? Any airline would do and this could have happened for any destination also | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 16209 Registered: 4-2010 |
Had she forgotten something on the plane at one point? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3877 Registered: 1-2007 |
Had she forgotten something on the plane at one point? No | ||
| Andy_hornby (Andy_hornby)
New member Username: Andy_hornby Post Number: 353 Registered: 11-2011 |
had she appeared on tv or in a newspaper without realising it? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3879 Registered: 1-2007 |
had she appeared on tv or in a newspaper without realising it? No but another good thought | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 5232 Registered: 9-2010 |
Facebook? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3884 Registered: 1-2007 |
Facebook? No | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1904 Registered: 9-2009 |
At the time of the meeting was Laura carrying something relevant? Did Mary realize that Laura had been in Rome at the moment when they met or at some earlier moment? | ||
| Andy_hornby (Andy_hornby)
New member Username: Andy_hornby Post Number: 359 Registered: 11-2011 |
is GPS relevant at all? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3893 Registered: 1-2007 |
At the time of the meeting was Laura carrying something relevant? No Did Mary realize that Laura had been in Rome at the moment when they met or at some earlier moment? At an earlier moment | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3894 Registered: 1-2007 |
is GPS relevant at all? No | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2652 Registered: 2-2011 |
but Mary didn't work for the airline? does her work bring her in contact with the airline? does she work for the police? some government agency? did she realize in the course of her work? or when she herself was trying to book a flight? did she find out on the interweb? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3896 Registered: 1-2007 |
but Mary didn't work for the airline? Correct does her work bring her in contact with the airline? does she work for the police? some government agency? No to all did she realize in the course of her work? or when she herself was trying to book a flight? did she find out on the interweb? None of these things | ||
| Andy_hornby (Andy_hornby)
New member Username: Andy_hornby Post Number: 362 Registered: 11-2011 |
out of office notification? voicemail greeting? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3897 Registered: 1-2007 |
out of office notification? voicemail greeting? no to both | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2662 Registered: 2-2011 |
did Mary see Laura in Rome in a film? a TV advert? youtube? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3900 Registered: 1-2007 |
did Mary see Laura in Rome in a film? a TV advert? youtube? No but good ideas all Time for a hint i think. Both Mary and Laura performed the same action that is very relevant | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1342 Registered: 1-2011 |
Did Mary and Laura perform the same action at the same time? Was Mary in Rome on purpose? Were the flights to other destinations directed to Rome instead (for example due to weather reasons)? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3903 Registered: 1-2007 |
Did Mary and Laura perform the same action at the same time? No and this is an important point Was Mary in Rome on purpose? Mary was not in Rome but if you meant Laura then she was there on holiday Were the flights to other destinations directed to Rome instead (for example due to weather reasons)? No | ||
| Amu (Amu)
New member Username: Amu Post Number: 50 Registered: 2-2010 |
When I read this puzzle, my immediate thought was something like after Laura travelled with an airline, they sent an ad to all of her friends on Facebook/email contacts that she used that airline to go to Rome. But it seems to have been debunked! Did Mary perform the action first and Laura after? Or the other way around? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3905 Registered: 1-2007 |
When I read this puzzle, my immediate thought was something like after Laura travelled with an airline, they sent an ad to all of her friends on Facebook/email contacts that she used that airline to go to Rome. But it seems to have been debunked! No nothing like that Did Mary perform the action first and Laura after? Or the other way around? Laura first Mary second | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 610 Registered: 8-2011 |
Did Mary perform the action because Laura had performed it first? Is the location where they met/spoke relevant? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2672 Registered: 2-2011 |
when Mary performed the action did she realise Laura had been in Rome? did she hear something? see something? did the action involve writing something? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3913 Registered: 1-2007 |
Did Mary perform the action because Laura had performed it first? No Is the location where they met/spoke relevant? No | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3914 Registered: 1-2007 |
when Mary performed the action did she realise Laura had been in Rome? After she had performed the action she realised Laura had been in Rome did she hear something? see something? Saw something did the action involve writing something? No | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 16262 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did Laura do something relevant in Rome? Meet the Pope? | ||
| Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 534 Registered: 4-2007 |
Was Mary meeting Laura from her trip, saw her wave a special good-buy to the flight crew, automatically repeater the gesture, and realized the crew is from Rome? Did they also say "Chao!"? ( Just a wild guess ). | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1366 Registered: 1-2011 |
Was Mary ever in Rome? Did Mary travel recently to another destination? Is the action connected with travelling? Flying? Did Laura receive a letter from Rome? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3919 Registered: 1-2007 |
Did Laura do something relevant in Rome? Yes Meet the Pope? no | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3920 Registered: 1-2007 |
Was Mary meeting Laura from her trip, saw her wave a special good-buy to the flight crew, automatically repeater the gesture, and realized the crew is from Rome? Did they also say "Chao!"? ( Just a wild guess ). No but a nice thought and surely there's a puzzle lurking there | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3921 Registered: 1-2007 |
Was Mary ever in Rome? Irrelevant Did Mary travel recently to another destination? No Is the action connected with travelling? Only yopishly see hint below Flying? No Did Laura receive a letter from Rome? No I think you need a hint . Think of something a lot of people would take on holiday. I certainly do anyway | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1370 Registered: 1-2011 |
Did Laura try to sell a guidebook about Rome in the Internet? What people would take on holiday - is that a guidebook? a photo camera? a rucksack? a bag? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3924 Registered: 1-2007 |
Did Laura try to sell a guidebook about Rome in the Internet? No What people would take on holiday - is that a guidebook? a photo camera? a rucksack? a bag? None of these either I'm afraid | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1371 Registered: 1-2011 |
Is passport relevant? What people would take on holiday - is it money? any specific clothing? pocket dictionary? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3925 Registered: 1-2007 |
Is passport relevant? No What people would take on holiday - is it money? any specific clothing? pocket dictionary? none of these. Think of a lazy by the pool type holiday | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 16279 Registered: 4-2010 |
Swimsuit? Change of clothes? Towel? Sunglasses? Sunscreen? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3930 Registered: 1-2007 |
Swimsuit? Change of clothes? Towel? Sunglasses? Sunscreen? No to all . More what you might do while lazing on the beach or by the pool | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 16282 Registered: 4-2010 |
Beach ball? Beach blanket? Beach umbrella? Swimming relevant? Tanning? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3933 Registered: 1-2007 |
Beach ball? Beach blanket? Beach umbrella? Swimming relevant? Tanning? Maybe I've misled you a bit, it's not related specifically to the beach but most people I know would bring a couple of these things on hols to enjoy while relaxing. They can be enjoyed just as much at home though. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 16283 Registered: 4-2010 |
Books? Magazines? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3934 Registered: 1-2007 |
Books? Yes Magazines? | ||
| Amu (Amu)
New member Username: Amu Post Number: 65 Registered: 2-2010 |
Mary took the same book from the library and it had Laura's ticket as a bookmark in it? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3936 Registered: 1-2007 |
Mary took the same book from the library and it had Laura's ticket as a bookmark in it? Holy moley I'm impressed Amu......What a great shot. *************Spoiler************ As I said this actually happened to my sister. She borrowed a book from the library only to discover therein her friends boarding pass for a recent flight to Rome that was obviously used as a bookmark. The friend had a fairly uncommon name and given that we come from a small town it could only have been her. So my sister when she next saw Laura asked with total confidence whether she had enjoyed her trip to Rome. Quite a coincidence their both borrowing the same book without anyone else doing so in between. Thanks to all who played and kudos once again to Amu for the clinical kill | ||
| Amu (Amu)
New member Username: Amu Post Number: 69 Registered: 2-2010 |
Great! Thanks, Balin guessed the book though. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 16294 Registered: 4-2010 |
Nice shot Amu, and great puzzle Peter! |
