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Sunnygrace57 (Sunnygrace57)
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Posted on Sunday, January 15, 2012 - 4:49 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A man is relieved to hear that his friend has been shot and killed.
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Posted on Sunday, January 15, 2012 - 12:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Friend: a human? an animal?

"His" refers to the man in the puzzle statement?

Killed as in ordinary meaning of loosing one's life?

True story?

Games relevant? Military action? Politics?
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Posted on Sunday, January 15, 2012 - 10:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Friend: a human?yes an animal?

"His" refers to the man in the puzzle statement? yes

Killed as in ordinary meaning of loosing one's life? yes

True story?
no
Games relevant? Military action? Politics?no to all
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Posted on Monday, January 16, 2012 - 11:06 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the man's life in danger?
Has his friend attacked him?
Has his friend threatened him?

Had the friend been suffering from a severe disease?
Or otherwise been in a situation in which he was suffering?
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Posted on Monday, January 16, 2012 - 2:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the man's life in danger?
Has his friend attacked him? yes
Has his friend threatened him? yes

Had the friend been suffering from a severe disease? YES
Or otherwise been in a situation in which he was suffering?no
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Posted on Monday, January 16, 2012 - 2:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'm sorry, I messed up on the last post. The man THOUGHT his friend had a disease.
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Posted on Monday, January 16, 2012 - 5:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is the disease a mental illness? paranoia? schizophrenia?
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Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2012 - 4:27 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is the disease a mental illness? paranoia? schizophrenia? no to all
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Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2012 - 1:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Can we call the man George?
And the friend Oliver?

Is the disease one that causes severe pain? Or disability?

Did Oliver commit suicide?
Did Oliver want George to kill him?
Did Oliver want someone else to kill him (Oliver)?

Is the disease a genetic one?
Or one that is contagious?
Or can otherwise be contracted?

Did Oliver blame George for him being ill?
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Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2012 - 2:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Can we call the man George?
And the friend Oliver? sure

Is the disease one that causes severe pain?yes Or disability? no

Did Oliver commit suicide? no
Did Oliver want George to kill him? no
Did Oliver want someone else to kill him (Oliver)?

Is the disease a genetic one? yes, but irrel.
Or one that is contagious? no
Or can otherwise be contracted? no

Did Oliver blame George for him being ill?yesish, but I made a mistake, he didn't REALLY have the disease.
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Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2012 - 2:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Oops. Actually, George blamed himself for Oliver's death. I mixed up the names.
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Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2012 - 8:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was George relieved by Oliver's death because it meant that Oliver wouldn't have to suffer from the "disease" anymore?
Or because Oliver couldn't harm him any longer?
Did Oliver blackmail George?

Did George blame himself for Oliver's death because he allowed him to get into the situation in which he was killed?
Did George tell Oliver that he should die / get killed?
Was he in any way directly involved in Oliver's death?

Did George know Oliver's killer?
Did Oliver know his killer?
Is the killer HAM? Is this relevant?

Relevant for how long George and Oliver had known each other?
Relevant how old they are?
Are they only friends or also somehow related to each other?

Is money involved? Insurance?
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Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2012 - 11:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was George relieved by Oliver's death because it meant that Oliver wouldn't have to suffer from the "disease" anymore?
Or because Oliver couldn't harm him any longer?
Did Oliver blackmail George? no to all

Did George blame himself for Oliver's death because he allowed him to get into the situation in which he was killed? if you mean Oliver getting shot, than no. If you mean the disease that he thought Oliver had, than yes.
Did George tell Oliver that he should die / get killed? no
Was he in any way directly involved in Oliver's death? no

Did George know Oliver's killer? no
Did Oliver know his killer? no
Is the killer HAM?yes Is this relevant? no

Relevant for how long George and Oliver had known each other? no
Relevant how old they are? no
Are they only friends or also somehow related to each other? they're just friends, but as you'll see by the answer, they're not BEST friends.

Is money involved? yopeInsurance?no
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Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 12:29 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Shot: with a gun? A bow & arrow?
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Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 3:49 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Shot: with a gun?yes A bow & arrow?no
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Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 9:55 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is George a doctor?

was George relieved by Oliver's death because it meant Oliver wouldn't be able to tell people something?
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Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 10:35 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

George blamed himself that his not-so-best friend Oliver had a genetic disease, Olivier actually did not have a disease but George thought so, correct?

Was George relieved by Oliver's death because it meant Oliver would not discover what George had to do with the assumed disease?

Did George do something bad to Olivier/Olivier's relatives, which George thought caused the disease?
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Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 12:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did Oliver threaten George because he thought he had the disease, and was angry?
If Oliver had the disease, would he have had it from birth (since it is a genetic condition)? Or did he think George gave it to him?
Does this disease exist in real life?
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Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 4:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is George a doctor? YES

was George relieved by Oliver's death because it meant Oliver wouldn't be able to tell people something?noWas George relieved by Oliver's death because it meant Oliver would not discover what George had to do with the assumed disease?
yesDid George do something bad to Olivier/Olivier's relatives, which George thought caused the disease?noDid Oliver threaten George because he thought he had the disease, and was angry?
If Oliver had the disease, would he have had it from birth (since it is a genetic condition)?the actual disease is irrelevant, but yes Or did he think George gave it to him? no
Does this disease exist in real life?yes
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Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 4:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Would Oliver have died soon from the disease (if he'd actually had it) anyway?
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Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 6:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Random thought: Were George and Oliver related to one another?

Autopsy (or lack thereof) relevant?
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Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 7:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Would Oliver have died soon from the disease (if he'd actually had it) anyway?yes
Random thought: Were George and Oliver related to one another? no

Autopsy (or lack thereof) relevant?no. it was pretty obvious that he was shot.
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Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 8:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is George a very bad doctor?
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Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 8:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is George a very bad doctor?no, but he broke a rule.
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Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 9:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

did he violate the Hippocratic Oath? did he violate the laws of confidentiality? health and safety practices?
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Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 11:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

did he violate the Hippocratic Oath?yesish did he violate the laws of confidentiality?no health and safety practices?yes-mostly this.
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Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 11:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he "diagnose" George?
If so, did he misdiagnose him on purpose?
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Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2012 - 12:24 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he "diagnose" George? yesIf so, did he misdiagnose him yeson purpose?no
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Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2012 - 12:54 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So George accidently misdiagnosed Oliver?
Did an obvious mistake happen?
Like, was a blood sample or the records of Oliver's confused with that of a different patient?
Or was it a disease that was likely to be confused with something else?
Or something with rather unspecific symptoms?

Did Oliver think that he would not live long anymore?
If so, did he make a drastic life-altering change based on that assumption?
Like, did he sell his house? Or spend all his money?
Or did he do something to prevent having children?

Relevant how much time passed between the "diagnose" and Oliver's death?
If so, days? weeks? Months? Years? Decades?

Has Oliver ever found out that he really didn't have the disease?
If so, relevant how much time passed between the "diagnose" and Oliver finding it out?
If so, days? weeks? Months? Years? Decades?
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Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2012 - 5:43 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So George accidently misdiagnosed Oliver?yesDid an obvious mistake happen? yes
Like, was a blood sample or the records of Oliver's confused with that of a different patient?FA
Or was it a disease that was likely to be confused with something else? yesish
Or something with rather unspecific symptoms? yes
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Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2012 - 8:54 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You didn't answer the greater part of the questions from my latest post ;-)

Is the FA that George actually didn't diagnose Oliver in his capacity of a doctor in a hospital or with his own practice?
Did he diagnose Oliver in his freetime instead?

Wild guess: Is George no doctor of medicine but of some completely different area?
And he pretended to be a medical doctor in front of Oliver?
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Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2012 - 9:51 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did George do the necessary examinations/records of Oliver? Did Oliver change his life after hearing the diagnosis?
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Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2012 - 2:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the FA that George actually didn't diagnose Oliver in his capacity of a doctor in a hospital or with his own practice?
Did he diagnose Oliver in his freetime instead? YES!
************SPOILER**************** This is from Scrubs. "Oliver" pays "George" $20 to examine his rash, and the doctor says he only has eczema. However, Oliver is later wheeled into the hospital DOA (hence the title.) George second guesses himself and asks if Oliver had thrombocytopenic purpura, a deadly disease. He thought he would be fired for diagnosing a patient outside of the hospital. However, after hearing that Oliver was really shot and realizing that his job was not in jeopardy, he said to the dismay of everyone around him, "Well, that's a relief!"

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