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Several people are seated around a large table, all of them are silent. Suddenly they all begin to laugh. Then Mick enters the room. Less than an hour later everyone except Mick leaves the room either angry, crying or both. What's going on?

This one should be somewhat fun, not extremely complicated. I'm piecing together the 3rd installment of Dr. Wieck adventures but since there are at least 2 lateral adventures in progress I'll hold off on it for now.
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Can't wait for Wieck 3!

Is Mick H? A? M?
Are the people around the table H? A? M?
Exact number of people relevant?
Do they all leave at the same time? Individually?
Is a jury relevant? A seance?
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Is Mick H? A? M? Yes
Are the people around the table H? Yes A? Yes M? Some are, some are not
Exact number of people relevant? No
Do they all leave at the same time? Yes Individually? No
Is a jury relevant? A seance? Neither
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Are all of the people laughing at the same thing? Is Mick the cause of the anger/crying?

I've never participated in a Wieck adventure, but I will soon!
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Are all of the people laughing at the same thing? Yes
Is Mick the cause of the anger/crying? He is a big part of it, yes

I've never participated in a Wieck adventure, but I will soon! Well hopefully it will be fun. It will pick up where the 2nd one left off and there will be some continuation of the plot...
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Kyeann: The 2nd one is called "Yo ho!" or something like that. They were both fun to participate in, and I suggest you do read both over. (The first one has "Wieck" in the title.)

Is Mick angry? Crying?
Are any of the people around the table related? To each other? To Mick?
Specific type of table relevant? Are they at a casino?
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Kyeann: The 2nd one is called "Yo ho!" or something like that. They were both fun to participate in, and I suggest you do read both over. (The first one has "Wieck" in the title.)
Correct, it's in the archives from Oct. 2010 (I had no idea it had been that long since that puzzle ran).


Is Mick angry? Crying? No to both
Are any of the people around the table related? No To each other? To Mick? Neither
Specific type of table relevant? No
Are they at a casino? No
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I read it in my mad lateral-adventure spree in which I searched for and read every puzzle with 'lateral adventure' in the title :-).
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Did this happen at a workplace? A comedy club? A theater?

Was Mick upset about the laughing?
Did someone at the table tell a joke, and that caused the laughter?
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Did this happen at a workplace? Yes
A comedy club? A theater? Neither of these

Was Mick upset about the laughing? No
Did someone at the table tell a joke, and that caused the laughter? No, but OTRT
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Did someone at the table do something to make everyone laugh?

Was Mick a supervisor of the people sitting at the table? If so, did he terminate their jobs?
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Did someone at the table do something to make everyone laugh? No - good q

Was Mick a supervisor of the people sitting at the table? No... If so, did he terminate their jobs? ...so no.
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Are they in a conference room? On a conference call?
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Are they in a conference room? Yes
On a conference call? No
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Are all the people at the table coworkers? Is Mick also a coworker?
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Are all the people at the table coworkers? No
Is Mick also a coworker? No
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Does Mick work at this workplace?
Are the people at the table clients or customers or this business? Were they trying to sell something to the business?
Was their silence in their given situation a cause of laughter?
Did Mick hear them laugh?
Is this a surprise party for Mick?
Aside from being a type of workplace what would have a conference room, is the type of business relevant?
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Does Mick work at this workplace? No
Are the people at the table clients or customers or this business? Neither
Were they trying to sell something to the business? No
Was their silence in their given situation a cause of laughter? No
Did Mick hear them laugh? Yes
Is this a surprise party for Mick? No
Aside from being a type of workplace what would have a conference room, is the type of business relevant? No
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are the people gathered there for a training course?

a business meeting?

do they start to laugh because they hear something? a noise coming from outside the room?

did Mick announce that the company was folding? that it was being taken over?
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are the people gathered there Yes, but not...for a training course?

a business meeting? Not this either

do they start to laugh because they hear something? a noise coming from outside the room? No to both

did Mick announce that the company was folding? No that it was being taken over? No
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Are they trying to start a business?
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Good one, Balin!
Did the people laugh at something they saw? heard?
Are they crying/angry because of something Mick said? did?
Would they be crying/angry if they hadn't laughed?
Did Mick intend to upset the group?
Is Mick a messenger of some kind? Does he give them bad news? Present something else unpleasant? Take something pleasant away from them?
Do the people work at the workplace? Are they stockholders? Does Mick interact with the workplace regularly? daily? Is he a stockholder? consumer? vendor?
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Are they trying to start a business? No
Did the people laugh at something they saw? Yes heard? This also
Are they crying/angry because of something Mick said? Indirectly, yes, and...did?...yes, also indirectly
Would they be crying/angry if they hadn't laughed? Good q - no, most likely any person who had not laughed would not be angry or crying
Did Mick intend to upset the group? Hmmm...this wasn't his primary goal but it's very likely he knew that it would happen
Is Mick a messenger of some kind? Well not officially but OTRT
Does he give them bad news? No
Present something else unpleasant? No
Take something pleasant away from them? YES, indirectly he does!
Do the people work at the workplace? No
Are they stockholders? No
Does Mick interact with the workplace regularly? No daily? No
Is he a stockholder? consumer? vendor? No to all

Nice, helpful set of questions here!
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Did they lose money?
Were they embarrassed?
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Did they lose money? No
Were they embarrassed? No
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Were "they" being tested in some way?
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Were "they" being tested in some way? Yet another great q - mostly "yes" with just a little "no" involved. If you can figure out why I answered this way you'll have it mostly solved.
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Were some of them being tested, and others not?
And did Mick come take their tests, and return them? And they all got bad results?
Or am I OTWT?
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Were they students? Was this some sort of moral test or test of character? A competency test?
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Were some of them being tested, and others not? They all were, but there's a better suited word than "tested" so keep exploring this
And did Mick come take their tests, and return them? No
And they all got bad results? No...
Or am I OTWT? ...certainly not! They weren't "taking tests" so to speak, but everyone but Mick got a bad result
Were they students? No
Was this some sort of moral test or test of character? Ah, it wasn't strictly this but there is an element of this involved
A competency test? Yes, very much so!
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Examined? Had a doctor's appointment? Or dentist appointment?
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"Examined"? In a way, yes, but...Had a doctor's appointment? Or dentist appointment? ...not like this. Still a better word than "examined" and "tested"
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were they being tricked? or entrapped?

were they arrested?
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were they being tricked? Yes, to some degree
or entrapped? No

were they arrested? No
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Lateral puzzle quiz :-)?
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Lateral puzzle quiz :-)? No (but nice thinking)

Perhaps a recap will be helpful - Several people are seated around a table in a conference room at a workplace. None of the people seated at the table work there. They are all there for the same reason, which is similar to being "tested" or "examined," and their competency is involved in their reason for being there. All of the people see something that makes them laugh at the same time, and then Mick enters the room. Some time later, everyone except Mick leaves the room and all are either angry, crying or both. Mick has taken something pleasant away from all of them, and he never gets angry or cries. It is OTRT to consider Mick a messenger of some kind.
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Are they job applicants?
Did Mick get the job?
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Are they job applicants? Yes, and...
Did Mick get the job? ...yes!
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Hm- did they laugh at Mick?
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Hm- did they laugh at Mick? No - great q
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is the thing they see related to Mick? his arrival?

something else? a clock? a sign? the application form?

does someone else enter before Mick?

is Mick wearing a uniform?

when Mick arrives, is he hoping to get the job? or does he come there for another reason? is he delivering pizza?

is the job they are hoping to get an acting job?
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Here comes some help...

Is the thing they see related to Mick? Not directly his arrival? No

something else? Close, read on...a clock? a sign? the application form? None of these

does someone else enter before Mick? Yes and no! Great q, you are the first one to ask this!

is Mick wearing a uniform? No, and not relevant

when Mick arrives, is he hoping to get the job? Yes
or does he come there for another reason? No
is he delivering pizza? No

is the job they are hoping to get an acting job? No - the exact type of job/position is not relevant
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the person who enters before Mick - HAM? another applicant?

is it that person's appearance that makes the others laugh? something they do? the way they do it?
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did Mick get the job because he was the last to arrive? because he didn't laugh?
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Did the group laugh at someone besides Mick? Were they being watched as they waited (for an application, to be interviewed, etc.)?
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Did Mick know that he gets the job already before he entered the room?
Did the others leave because Mick tells them he has gotten the job?
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Did the job interview take actually place in some other room? And only Mick was in that other room? And he entered to explain the people the whole trick and announce he had gotten the job?

And if case the above was wrong...
Was any of the other (than Mick) applicants interviewed? Did they laugh at something displayed in the room? Did they consider something they see a joke and therefore laugh at it? Was Mick initially in the room and did he leave at some point?
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the person who enters before Mick - HAM? Yes...but, possible FA here another applicant? No

is it that person's appearance that makes the others laugh? Yes something they do? Yes the way they do it? This too

did Mick get the job because he was the last to arrive? No because he didn't laugh? This may not have been the only reason he got the job, but based on something that happened it would seem to be the case

Did the group laugh at someone besides Mick? YES
Were they being watched as they waited (for an application, to be interviewed, etc.)? No

Did Mick know that he gets the job already before he entered the room? No
Did the others leave because Mick tells them he has gotten the job? They do leave because they know Mick got the job, but Mick didn't tell them this

Did the job interview take actually place in some other room? No
And only Mick was in that other room? Mick was in another room, but not a room in which an interview would take place...
And he entered to explain the people the whole trick and announce he had gotten the job? Not the case, no

And if case the above was wrong...
Was any of the other (than Mick) applicants interviewed? Yes, all applicants were
Did they laugh at something displayed in the room? No
Did they consider something they see a joke and therefore laugh at it? YES
Was Mick initially in the room and did he leave at some point? Yes
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Did Mick leave the room before something people laughed at appeared? After?
Did Mick leave the room as a result of appearance of something people laughed at?
Did Mick consider whatever appeared serious?

Did the person who entered before Mick, tell anything to the people?
Did that person enter before Mick left the room? After? Did Mick leave the room as a result of this person entering? As a result of what that person did? said?
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Did Mick leave the room before something people laughed at appeared? Yes, but explore more on this topic After? No
Did Mick leave the room as a result of appearance of something people laughed at? No - good q
Did Mick consider whatever appeared serious? Yes, at least he gave this impression to all the others in the room (but explore this as well)

Did the person who entered before Mick, tell anything to the people? Maybe, but not necessarily
Did that person enter before Mick left the room? After? To avoid confusion...
1. Mick entered the room, then left the room
2. Another person entered the room
3. Mick entered the room


Did Mick leave the room as a result of this person entering? No As a result of what that person did? said? No to both
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Did Mick leave the room for a reason not connected with job application and whatever happened in the room (for example leaving to the toilet)?

Did the people in the room laugh at the person entering? If no, did the funny thing happen before the person entered? after?
Was the entering person a recruiter? a manager? Should the people have known the person entering?

Was this all sort of a test to the applicants?
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Did Mick leave the room for a reason not connected with job application and whatever happened in the room Yes, to do... (for example leaving to the toilet)? ...this!

Did the people in the room laugh at the person entering? Yes
If no, did the funny thing happen before the person entered? No, only...after? this
Was the entering person a recruiter? a manager? Yes, the person held both positions
Should the people have known the person entering?
No (but at least one of them did to some degree)
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Did the people think that Mick changed into a recruiter? That Mick was there to observe them?
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Did the people think that Mick changed into a recruiter? No
That Mick was there to observe them? No, they knew all the time that Mick was an applicant just like they were
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did the person who enetered look funny? funny face? funny clothes? did he do something funny? say something funny?

did the people who laughed misunderstand something? who he was? what he was there for? what he said?

did the person enter the room and fall over?
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did the person who enetered look funny? Yes, something about him did
funny face? No funny clothes? Not exactly but OTRT
did he do something funny? In a way, yes
say something funny? No

did the people who laughed misunderstand something? who he was? what he was there for? what he said? No, they understood all of this

did the person enter the room and fall over? No
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Was the recruiter wearing something with a enterprise's brand name on it? A brand logo?
Was he wearing something unsuitable for the circumstances? Was he wearing something that the workers in that enterprise were supposed to wear?
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Was the recruiter wearing something with a enterprise's brand name on it? A brand logo? Both are irrelevant
Was he wearing something unsuitable for the circumstances? Was he wearing something that the workers in that enterprise were supposed to wear? The type of clothes and specific clothing items are not relevant, he would have worn something appropriate for his position and function in the business (safe assumption is that he had on a coat, tie, dress shirt and dress pants). The cause of the laughter was related to his clothing though, so you're still OTRT.
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Was recruiter's appearance funny for itself? Was his appearance funny because of the conversation that took place in the room before he entered? Because of something else that took place in the room before he entered? Because of the design/decoration of the room?
Did he expect the laughter? Did he deliberately provoke the laughter?
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Was recruiter's appearance funny for itself? Yes, but also...
Was his appearance funny because of the conversation that took place in the room before he entered? ...this too, this added to the humor
Because of something else that took place in the room before he entered? No
Because of the design/decoration of the room? No

Now comes more good help...
Did he expect the laughter? NO
Did he deliberately provoke the laughter? NO
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Was the recruiter aware of his funny appearance? Was it his normal, everyday appearance?
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Was the recruiter aware of his funny appearance? Not at first, no
Was it his normal, everyday appearance? Which part?
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Did the other applicants not get the job because of their laughter?
Were the recruiter's clothes wet? stained?
Did Mick laugh where he re-entered the room?
When Mick entered the room was there something funny related to his clothing, in the same was a the recruiter?
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Did the other applicants not get the job because of their laughter? Well this isn't the only reason but they all knew it was a factor
Were the recruiter's clothes wet? stained? Neither, think a little more laterally here, you are OTRT
Did Mick laugh where he re-entered the room? No - good q
When Mick entered the room was there something funny related to his clothing, in the same was a the recruiter? No
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was any of the recruiter's clothing undone? seams coming apart? torn?

trousers too short? too long?

shoes or socks not matching?

was he wearing anything on his head?
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Was Mick wearing the same design of tie as the recruiter?
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Did the recruiter also use the toilet? Did he forget to zip up his trouser?
Were Mick and the recruiter in the toilet at the same time?
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was any of the recruiter's clothing undone? seams coming apart? torn? None of this
trousers too short? too long? Not this either
shoes or socks not matching? Nor this either
was he wearing anything on his head? No
Was Mick wearing the same design of tie as the recruiter? No
Did the recruiter also use the toilet? Yes!
Did he forget to zip up his trouser? No
Were Mick and the recruiter in the toilet at the same time? Yes! Good q!
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had they swapped ties?

did they go to the same school? university? belong to the ame club?
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had they swapped ties? No, and ties are irrelevant

did they go to the same school? university? belong to the ame club? No, and also all irrelevant
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Did the recruiter have toilet paper stuck to his shoe? In his pants?
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Did the recruiter have toilet paper stuck to his shoe? Yes! In his pants? (so not this)

So...can anyone piece together exactly what happened?
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Hmm, not quite seeing it here yet...

Did Mick know that the recruiter had toilet paper on his shoe when they were in the toilet? Did any conversation between Mick and the recruiter take place in the toilet?
Did Mick resolve not to laugh at the situation because he realized it might hurt his chances to get the job?

Did Mick communicate to the recruiter that there was toilet paper on his shoe?

Was there a written test or job application that the candidates were given to fill out?
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Did the recruiter put there the toilet paper on purpose? Did Mick see this?
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Hmm, not quite seeing it here yet...Well you are all on the right track, and the next set of questions will be very helpful

Did Mick know that the recruiter had toilet paper on his shoe when they were in the toilet? Yes, he saw it there
Did any conversation between Mick and the recruiter take place in the toilet? No, it did not - good q
Did Mick resolve not to laugh at the situation Yes - qood q
...because he realized it might hurt his chances to get the job? He knew it would hurt his chances. Explore this and you'll probably solve it.

Did Mick communicate to the recruiter that there was toilet paper on his shoe? NO - good q!

Was there a written test or job application that the candidates were given to fill out? Yes, but this isn't relevant

Did the recruiter put there the toilet paper on purpose? NO, certainly not! Good q!
Did Mick see this? Mick saw that it was on the man's shoe and knew that it was not done on purpose.
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Did Mick decide not to communicate to the recruiter that there was toilet paper on his shoe because he knew the group would laugh at it? And he wanted to be the only one not laughing?
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and even more: did Mick make the other contestants laugh about the toilet paper? (secretly, not seen by the recruiter)
did the recruiter understand why the other applicants were laughing? or did he think they were laughing about him? about something he said? just did not take the job application serious?
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Did Mick decide not to communicate to the recruiter that there was toilet paper on his shoe because he knew the group would laugh at it? And he wanted to be the only one not laughing? Yes, you're right on both of these

and even more: did Mick make the other contestants laugh about the toilet paper? (secretly, not seen by the recruiter) I'm not sure what you're asking but I think you are very much on the right track, can you ask this another way?
did the recruiter understand why the other applicants were laughing? Not at first, no!
or did he think they were laughing about him? He knew they were laughing at him he just didn't know why, until...
about something he said? No, they laughed before he said anything
just did not take the job application serious? Yes, at least this is what he thought.

Nearly done, hopefully Sundowner can clarify that first question!
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did Mick say something? or did he make them aware by signalling in some way?
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did Mick say something? Yes, he said something that's quite relevant
or did he make them aware by signalling in some way? Aware of what?
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aware of the loo paper

did Mick explicitly state that there was some loo paper on the recruiter's shoe?

did he make a remark which could be regarded as innocent by the recruiter but taken another way by the rest?

did he refer to the paper? the loo? shoe?
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So to rephrase...

Did he make them (aware of the loo paper) by signalling them in some way? He didn't have to give any signal, because...did Mick explicitly state that there was some loo paper on the recruiter's shoe? ...he did this, yes

did he make a remark which could be regarded as innocent by the recruiter but taken another way by the rest? No - the recruiter wasn't aware that Mick made any remark or reference to the paper

did he refer to the paper? Yes, but...the loo?...not this, but...shoe?...yes, he did mention this.
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"you have some paper on your shoe"?
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"you have some paper on your shoe"? Yes, Mick said this to the recruiter
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You guys are nearly done, here's a recap that should help:

Mick and the others are all applicants being interviewed for a position at a company. They are at the final interview stage in which the person who interviews them will immediately select the one who gets the job. Mick is with the others, then leaves the room and goes to the restroom. He sees the recruiter in the restroom, does not speak to him but notices toilet paper stuck to his shoe. Mick returns to the conference room and tells the other applicants about the toilet paper. When the recruiter comes into the room, everyone except Mick laughs at the toilet paper on the recruiter's shoe. Mick simply points out the toilet paper to the man, then the interview continues. At the end of the interview it is either said or implied that Mick gets the job, and the others leave the room angry at Mick and sad because they didn't get the job. They are also angry due to some trickery on Mick's part, and this element is the only missing piece left to discover...
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Would the other applicants have noticed the TP if Mick hadn't mentioned it?
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was what Mick said to the others quite funny? or meant to be funny?
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Would the other applicants have noticed the TP if Mick hadn't mentioned it? Well it's likely that some of them would have noticed it, yes, but given the fact that they were seated around a conference table they may not all have noticed it based on their viewpoint. Keep in mind, though, that they all laughed at the TP.

was what Mick said to the others quite funny? or meant to be funny? No, Mick did not say anything that was meant to be funny but you are OTRT as far as getting to the solution
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You wrote:
To avoid confusion...
1. Mick entered the room, then left the room
2. Another person entered the room
3. Mick entered the room

Did anybody else - besides Mick and Recruiter - enter the room?
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You wrote:
To avoid confusion...
1. Mick entered the room, then left the room
2. Another person entered the room
3. Mick entered the room

Did anybody else - besides Mick and Recruiter - enter the room? No, good question! Now that other details have been revealed the entire chain of events is:

1. All applicants (including Mick) entered the room
2. Mick left the room and went to the restroom
3. Mick left the restroom and entered the conference room, then left the same room a few moments later
4. The recruiter entered the room
5. Mick entered the room

So aside from Mick and the recruiter, everyone else stayed in the room
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Did Mick tell them that they should laugh for some reason? Perhaps that the recruiter had a good sense of humor? Did he lie about something that had (or had not) occurred outside the conference room?

Trickery, you say? And here I thought that Mick was the one dear, sweet applicant without the meanness to laugh at the poor recruiter. I'm so gullible.
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Did Mick tell them that they should laugh for some reason? YES, because...Perhaps that the recruiter had a good sense of humor? ...exactly!
Did he lie about something that had (or had not) occurred outside the conference room? Yes! We're nearly done, see below...

Trickery, you say? Yes, trickery indeed!
And here I thought that Mick was the one dear, sweet applicant without the meanness to laugh at the poor recruiter. Well he didn't laugh, but not because he was 'dear and sweet.'
I'm so gullible. No comment



So what was Mick's lie?
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So did he just tell them that the recruiter knew about the TP on his shoe? That the recruiter had a good sense of humor? That the recruiter would laugh about it?
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So did he just tell them that the recruiter knew about the TP on his shoe? He did tell them this, yes, but also told them one very other important thing...That the recruiter had a good sense of humor? ...yes, he told them this too, and it's related to the one other thing he said...That the recruiter would laugh about it?...and this too. All of this is related to the one other key thing that he said...
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Did he say that they had talked about it? That he had heard the recruiter say something relevant? That perhaps he was looking for employees with a good sense of humor? Did he imply that the toilet paper thing was done on purpose?
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***** SPOILER *****

Did he say that they had talked about it? It had been discussed, see below
That he had heard the recruiter say something relevant? He did say that he had inside info about the recruiter, yes
That perhaps he was looking for employees with a good sense of humor? Yes!
Did he imply that the toilet paper thing was done on purpose? Yes! More than implied...


Mick had a friend who worked for the company. His friend encouraged Mick to apply for a job there, but warned Mick, "You and the other applicants will meet the boss in the final interview stage, and he will select the one he wants for the job. But I caution you, keep it serious because the boss has absolutely no sense of humor." So, when Mick and the applicants go into the conference room, Mick excuses himself to the restroom. As chance would have it, as he's leaving the restroom he sees the boss with TP stuck to his shoe. Thinking quickly, he rushes back to the conference room and tells the others, "Hey, I just got a tip that the boss is going to come in here with TP on his shoe. This is a gag, he's wanting to keep things light and see who has a good sense of humor." Mick then leaves the room and the boss enters and everyone (but Mick) erupts into laughter at the "gag." As the boss tries to figure out what's going on, Mick comes in and saves the day by very calmly removing the TP while apologizing for being late. The boss points out that he didn't see anything funny about it and the interview commences. In the end, Mick's trickery pays off as he is deemed not only suitable for the job but the only applicant who takes things seriously.



Great job everyone, nice work there by Balin and Ciaobella to put it all together!

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