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| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 17380 Registered: 4-2010 |
Another puzzle from my Summer of Working at an Amusement Park: How did I know a coworker's watch was not working properly without even looking at it, or at my watch? | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 1421 Registered: 3-2006 |
Hi Balin! Did your knowledge come about from: something s/he said? something someone else said? something that happened? Is the type of watch relevant? Was it a digital watch? Does it usually make a noise? (eg when it reaches the hour?) Is there another watch in the vicinity, besides yours and your coworkers? Is there a clock? Some other time-telling device? Is it relevant that you were at an amusement park? Was there a particular ride (or something else) that went on for a fixed, known period of time? Or started at a particular time? | ||
| Beachbum (Beachbum)
New member Username: Beachbum Post Number: 322 Registered: 2-2012 |
Did you blindfold yourself while you were standing next to your coworker, then restrain him while you felt both his wrists for a watch, and then removed the watch and crushed it under your foot? | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 1429 Registered: 3-2006 |
LOL!! Please let that be the answer... | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 17386 Registered: 4-2010 |
Hi Balin! Hi Jackie! Did your knowledge come about from: something s/he said? No something someone else said? No something that happened? Yope Is the type of watch relevant? No Was it a digital watch? No Does it usually make a noise? No (eg when it reaches the hour?) Is there another watch in the vicinity, besides yours and your coworkers? No Is there a clock? No Some other time-telling device? No Is it relevant that you were at an amusement park? Yes Was there a particular ride Yope (or something else Yes ) that went on for a fixed, known period of time? Yes Or started at a particular time? Did you blindfold yourself while you were standing next to your coworker, then restrain him while you felt both his wrists for a watch, and then removed the watch and crushed it under your foot? HA!! But no LOL!! Please let that be the answer... Nope, sorry | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 1005 Registered: 8-2011 |
Was the coworker supposed to do something at a specified time? For example, (s)he was to meet you in 10 minutes and was gone at least an hour? | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 1442 Registered: 3-2006 |
Hmm, yope to a particular ride... was it a performance of some kind? One of those 4D simulator experience thingies? Some kind of photo-taking attraction? Were you and your coworker part of this something that went on for a fixed, known period of time? Were you dressed up as 2 characters? eg Shrek and Donkey? (That would be fun =)) Was your coworker late in fulfilling one of his/her duties? Was your coworker ham/haf? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 17390 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was the coworker supposed to do something at a specified time? Yes For example, (s)he was to meet you in 10 minutes and was gone at least an hour? No Hmm, yope to a particular ride... was it a performance of some kind? One of those 4D simulator experience thingies? Some kind of photo-taking attraction? None of these. I did make the realization at a ride. Were you and your coworker part of this something that went on for a fixed, known period of time? Yes Were you dressed up as 2 characters? No eg Shrek and Donkey? (That would be fun =)) Was your coworker late in fulfilling one of his/her duties? No Was your coworker ham/haf? HAF but it could work with either | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 1450 Registered: 3-2006 |
Were you and your coworker on a ride when you made the realisation? Or were you both standing by operating it, while members of the public went screaming past? This thing your coworker was supposed to do at a specified time: did she do it? did she do it earlier than she should have? later than she should have? Were you also supposed to do this thing? Was it starting up the ride? Ending the ride? As a result of the error of her watch, did the ride start on time? did it end on time? did it go on for longer than it should have? not as long as it should have? Did you derive a clue about this time problem from observing the customers? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 17394 Registered: 4-2010 |
Were you and your coworker on a ride when you made the realisation? No Or were you both standing by operating it, YESISH while members of the public went screaming past? This thing your coworker was supposed to do at a specified time: did she do it? Yes did she do it earlier than she should have? No later than she should have? No Were you also supposed to do this thing? Yesish Was it starting up the ride? Ending the ride? No to both As a result of the error of her watch, did the ride start on time? did it end on time? did it go on for longer than it should have? not as long as it should have? Irrel to all - OTWT. The ride operated normally throughout the puzzle Did you derive a clue about this time problem from observing the customers? Yes | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 1460 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is the type of ride relevant? A rollercoaster? Bumper cars? What was it that you observed about the customers that gave you the clue: their facial expressions? their hair? their shoes? (eg whether they had come off or not) their gestures? anything that implied a certain emotion on their part? if so: anger? confusion? terror? happiness? calm? sadness? disappointment? Was it the type of customer that gave it away? Eg. they were all children, when normally they would be mostly adults? Did they do something that customers of that ride usually don't do? Did you and your coworker have different responsibilities during the ride? The thing your coworker was supposed to do at a specified time: was it done before the ride? during the ride? after the ride? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3282 Registered: 2-2011 |
did she do something for too short a time? too long? did the customers get impatient? were they kept waiting? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 17398 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the type of ride relevant? NoA rollercoaster? Bumper cars? What was it that you observed about the customers that gave you the clue: BLOOPER: "Did you derive a clue about this time problem from observing the customers?" is a NO, not a Yes. (I hate it when I type the wrong word.) As such, all the rest of the questions do not apply. Did you and your coworker have different responsibilities during the ride? No -- I think you have an FA The thing your coworker was supposed to do at a specified time: was it done before the ride? during the ride? after the ride? Between rides did she do something for too short a time? too long? Neither! did the customers get impatient? were they kept waiting? Irrel -- refer to BLOOPER | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 1466 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is my FA that you and your coworker were working together during the ride? Did you in fact take turns? So you'd be operating one ride, then she would operate the next, etc? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3289 Registered: 2-2011 |
Between rides were either of you supposed to make an announcement? like "the next ride departs in 5 minutes"? | ||
| Beachbum (Beachbum)
New member Username: Beachbum Post Number: 327 Registered: 2-2012 |
Did your coworker look at a different clock to find out the time? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 17403 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is my FA that you and your coworker were working together during the ride? Yes!!! Did you in fact take turns? Yope So you'd be operating one ride, then she would operate the next, etc? And Yope I will clarify the Yopes: we (and a couple other workers) were on a ride rotation. I'd run one ride for a while, then she'd run that one and I'd move to another one, etc. Between rides were either of you supposed to make an announcement? like "the next ride departs in 5 minutes"? Nothing like this Did your coworker look at a different clock to find out the time? Eventually, but not until after I'd figured out her watch was off | ||
| Beachbum (Beachbum)
New member Username: Beachbum Post Number: 343 Registered: 2-2012 |
Was there something happening in the amusement park completely independent of the rides that tipped you off? Any thing go do with breaks or lunch? Something else that is supposed to happen at a certain time? Were you in line of sight of your co-worker at the time you realised that her watch wasn't working? Were you in speech communication with here at the time (whether by voice-through-air or by electronic device)? You said that the type of watch wasn't relevant, but just to cover a very basic question: watch as in timekeeping device? I assume you know the co-worker, correct? If you didn't, would you also have known that their watch wasn't working? | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 1642 Registered: 4-2007 |
Is it relevant in exactly what way her watch wasn't working? Was it fast? Slow? Stopped completely? Was it actually showing the wrong time at all? Was some other feature of the watch not working? Was she aware that her watch wasn't working? Was she acting assuming that it was? Did this lead to her doing something at a different time than expected? Taking a different amount of time to do something than expected? Thinking she was late when she wasn't? Thinking she was early? Expressing surprise about something? Were you tipped off by something she said? Did? Didn't do? Didn't say? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 17411 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was there something happening in the amusement park completely independent of the rides that tipped you off? No Any thing go do with breaks or lunch? OTRT; see my previous post Something else that is supposed to happen at a certain time? Yesish, see prev Were you in line of sight of your co-worker at the time you realised that her watch wasn't working? Yes Were you in speech communication with her at the time (whether by voice-through-air or by electronic device)? Yes You said that the type of watch wasn't relevant, but just to cover a very basic question: watch as in timekeeping device? Yes I assume you know the co-worker, correct? Yes If you didn't, would you also have known that their watch wasn't working? Yes Is it relevant in exactly what way her watch wasn't working? Not really Was it fast? Slow? Stopped completely? It had stopped, but irrel. I originally thought it was slow. Was it actually showing the wrong time at all? Yes Was some other feature of the watch not working? Was she aware that her watch wasn't working? No Was she acting assuming that it was? Yes Did this lead to her doing something at a different time than expected? No Taking a different amount of time to do something than expected? No Thinking she was late when she wasn't? No Thinking she was early? Yope Expressing surprise about something? No Were you tipped off by something she said? Did? This Didn't do? Didn't say? HINT: The key to this puzzle lies in the ride rotation, as mentioned in my previous post. | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 3029 Registered: 7-2009 |
Did you follow her in the rotation? Did she follow you? Was there another employee between you? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 17412 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did you follow her in the rotation? Did she follow you? This Was there another employee between you? | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 3033 Registered: 7-2009 |
By saying that she followed you in the rotation, do you mean the following? -- She worked the same station you did immediately after you did; therefore, she came to relieve you and then you moved on to the next stop. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 17415 Registered: 4-2010 |
By saying that she followed you in the rotation, do you mean the following? -- She worked the same station you did immediately after you did; therefore, she came to relieve you and then you moved on to the next stop. Yes | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 1645 Registered: 4-2007 |
Were you supposed to wait for her to come up to your ride before you moved onto the next? Were you meant to move on at a certain time regardless of whether she had come to relieve you? Was the idea that you each spent the same time operating each ride, so you would all be moving round at the same time? Is it relevant that some rides might take longer to complete a circuit or whatever than others, so there might be overlap between for example you being finished on yours but hers not being done yet? Did she come over to relieve you? If so, were you ready to move on when she came over? Did she come over for a chat before you moved on, thinking she had time because she didn't know how late it was? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 17418 Registered: 4-2010 |
Were you supposed to wait for her to come up to your ride before you moved onto the next? Yes Were you meant to move on at a certain time regardless of whether she had come to relieve you? No Was the idea that you each spent the same time operating each ride, so you would all be moving round at the same time? Not exactly. The person in the rotation coming off break would go to the first ride and bump that person to the next, who would bump that person, and so on. Is it relevant that some rides might take longer to complete a circuit or whatever than others, so there might be overlap between for example you being finished on yours but hers not being done yet? No Did she come over to relieve you? Yes If so, were you ready to move on when she came over? Yes Did she come over for a chat before you moved on, Yes but irrel thinking she had time because she didn't know how late it was? No | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 1482 Registered: 3-2006 |
Am I right in saying that the cue for any one worker to move on is when the person next in line comes up to take the spot? Kinda like pass-the-baton? So the only period in one's work day (that is relevant to this puzzle) that requires independent timekeeping is when one is on break? And if the person on break comes back late, the entire rotation is affected? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 17419 Registered: 4-2010 |
Am I right in saying that the cue for any one worker to move on is when the person next in line comes up to take the spot? Yes Kinda like pass-the-baton? Yes So the only period in one's work day (that is relevant to this puzzle) that requires independent timekeeping is when one is on break? Yes but irrel And if the person on break comes back late, the entire rotation is affected? Correct but irrel Remember, she arrived on time (or at least close to it). So how did I know her watch was off? | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 1483 Registered: 3-2006 |
"Remember, she arrived on time (or at least close to it). So how did I know her watch was off?" I have no idea!! Do you have a superpower? When you realised that her watch was not working, had she just come off her break? ie. you were at ride number one? Or were you two somewhere in the middle of the rotation, say ride number 4? If you were indeed in the middle, is it relevant exactly how many changeovers had taken place? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 17420 Registered: 4-2010 |
I have no idea!! Do you have a superpower? No =) When you realised that her watch was not working, had she just come off her break? ie. you were at ride number one? Or were you two somewhere in the middle of the rotation, say ride number 4? I was in the middle If you were indeed in the middle, is it relevant exactly how many changeovers had taken place? No | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 17421 Registered: 4-2010 |
Correction: So the only period in one's work day (that is relevant to this puzzle) that requires independent timekeeping is when one is on break? YOPE | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 1646 Registered: 4-2007 |
Is the time she was meant to finish work altogether relevant? Did you realise that her watch was off at the moment when she came to relieve you? Before? After? Was her coming to relieve you the sole bit of evidence you needed, or were there other relevant events happening at different times that tipped you off? Are any other workers relevant? Did she take all her breaks when she was supposed to? Is it relevant how many rides are on the rotation? Did she go round them in the correct order? Relevant what time of day it was? Did she need her watch to assist in the running of the ride? Eg she was meant to let it run for a certain amount of time before letting people off? Presumably she came to your ride because someone else had just come to relieve her from her ride, correct? Is this changeover relevant at all? Did she express surprise that they had come early? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 17424 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the time she was meant to finish work altogether relevant? No Did you realise that her watch was off at the moment when she came to relieve you? Before? After? About a minute after, but I was still at the ride (RELEVANT) Was her coming to relieve you the sole bit of evidence you needed, Noish or were there other relevant events happening at different times No that tipped you off? Yes Are any other workers relevant? No Did she take all her breaks when she was supposed to? Yes Is it relevant how many rides are on the rotation? No Did she go round them in the correct order? Yes Relevant what time of day it was? No Did she need her watch to assist in the running of the ride? No Eg she was meant to let it run for a certain amount of time before letting people off? No Presumably she came to your ride because someone else had just come to relieve her from her ride, correct? Yes Is this changeover relevant at all? No Did she express surprise that they had come early? I have no idea; she was on a ride that I couldn't see (so Irrel) | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 1486 Registered: 3-2006 |
So, you were at a ride, and she comes up to relieve you. But instead of going off to the next ride, you stay to have a little chat. Was this for purely social reasons? Or was there a good reason why you could not go on to the next ride? Is the person ahead of you in the rotation relevant? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 17425 Registered: 4-2010 |
So, you were at a ride, and she comes up to relieve you. But instead of going off to the next ride, you stay to have a little chat. Was this for purely social reasons? Or was there a good reason why you could not go on to the next ride? There was, but irrel (the ride was already in motion) Is the person ahead of you in the rotation relevant? No | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 3035 Registered: 7-2009 |
Is the length of time that you stayed to chat relevant? Or the fact that you stayed to chat at all? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 17426 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the length of time that you stayed to chat relevant? Or the fact that you stayed to chat at all? Neither | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 17439 Registered: 4-2010 |
RECAP: A female coworker came up to relieve me on a ride rotation, where several employees would rotate from one ride to another after a (near-)fixed length of time. While there, she did something that shortly enabled me to realize that her watch was not working. HINT: Focusing on time will help you out. | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 3050 Registered: 7-2009 |
Did she apologize for being late, when she actually wasn't? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 17441 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did she apologize for being late, when she actually wasn't? No. She didn't say anything relevant. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 17470 Registered: 4-2010 |
HINT: We had to do something relevant involving the time when arriving at and when leaving a ride. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3332 Registered: 2-2011 |
did it involve writing something? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 17474 Registered: 4-2010 |
did it involve writing something? Yes | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3334 Registered: 2-2011 |
did you have to write down the time you arrived? left? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 17478 Registered: 4-2010 |
did you have to write down the time you arrived? left? Yes to both | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3338 Registered: 2-2011 |
so did she look at someone else's watch before she wrote down the time? or a clock? or did she take the time from another entry? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 17483 Registered: 4-2010 |
so did she look at someone else's watch before she wrote down the time? or a clock? or did she take the time from another entry? No to all! | ||
| Beachbum (Beachbum)
New member Username: Beachbum Post Number: 366 Registered: 2-2012 |
Did she write down an incorrect time? Where there one or more other incorrect times written down that she was able to see, and she was using those one or more incorrect times to decide what time she should write down as her own time? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 17487 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did she write down an incorrect time? Yes Where there one or more other incorrect times written down that she was able to see, No and she was using those one or more incorrect times to decide what time she should write down as her own time? No | ||
| Beachbum (Beachbum)
New member Username: Beachbum Post Number: 370 Registered: 2-2012 |
Were you able to see that she wrote down an incorrect time? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 17490 Registered: 4-2010 |
Were you able to see that she wrote down an incorrect time? Yes | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 17495 Registered: 4-2010 |
You have all the pieces; you just need to put them together. And remember the puzzle statement. | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 3094 Registered: 7-2009 |
Did she keep writing down the same time at every station? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 17497 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did she keep writing down the same time at every station? No, but OTRT. Remember that I only saw the time she wrote at that one ride. | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1623 Registered: 6-2005 |
Had she done multiple rotations through that particular ride? And the times she wrote in were all the same? Did you write down the time you left and she immediately wrote down the wrong time after you? Do you typically use 24-Time/Military time for your logs? Was it the afternoon and she wrote down something like 3:34 instead of 15:34? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 17506 Registered: 4-2010 |
Had she done multiple rotations through that particular ride? And the times she wrote in were all the same? Did you write down the time you left and she immediately wrote down the wrong time after you? Other way round. Close enough to $poyle though. Do you typically use 24-Time/Military time for your logs? Was it the afternoon and she wrote down something like 3:34 instead of 15:34? **********SPOILER********** My coworker came to the ride and wrote down the time that her watch said, which was 10 minutes off from the actual time. Since the ride rotation was about an hour at each ride, I knew she had actually come at approximately (just picking a random time here) 6:30, but because she had written down 6:20, I knew that her watch was off. Good work everyone. New puzzle when I can think of one. |
