| Author | Message | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 1075 Registered: 8-2011 |
It's been a while, but I'm glad to be back. I love my little sister very much, so I did my best to make her cry. "I" = me, Ciaobella, and "her" = my little sister. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 17898 Registered: 4-2010 |
Cry: actual, physical tears? Of sadness? Happiness? Laughter? Good to see you back! | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 1077 Registered: 8-2011 |
Cry: actual, physical tears? Yes Of sadness? This is possible, although there may have been other feelings too Happiness? Laughter? No to the other two And thanks, Balin! It's good to see you again, too. | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 1777 Registered: 4-2007 |
Did making her cry help her in some way? Was it necessary that she actually cry? That she felt the emotions which led to the tears? Did you make her sad? Did her crying allow her to obtain something? Were you trying to make someone else feel sorry for her? Relevant how old your sister is? Relevant whether you managed to make her cry? Relevant where you were? | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 1081 Registered: 8-2011 |
Did making her cry help her in some way? Yope Was it necessary that she actually cry? Yope, although I thought "Yes" at the time That she felt the emotions which led to the tears? No Did you make her sad? It's possible Did her crying allow her to obtain something? No-ish Were you trying to make someone else feel sorry for her? No Relevant how old your sister is? Not especially, but she was 3 or 4 at the time Relevant whether you managed to make her cry? Technically, you could solve the puzzle without knowing, but yes, I did make her cry. Relevant where you were? We were in our backyard, but we could have been other places. It is somewhat relevant that we were outside. | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 1781 Registered: 4-2007 |
Were you also young? Was your trying to make her cry based on childish logic? A misunderstanding? Did you think it would help her, but it actually would not? | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 1083 Registered: 8-2011 |
Were you also young? Yes- I was about 12. Was your trying to make her cry based on childish logic? Yope. My logic was valid, but there was likely a better way to go about it. A misunderstanding? No Did you think it would help her, but it actually would not? No, I accomplished exactly what I set out to do. | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 1782 Registered: 4-2007 |
Did you want anyone else to see her cry? Hear her cry? | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 1085 Registered: 8-2011 |
Did you want anyone else to see her cry? Hear her cry? Irrelevant | ||
| Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr Post Number: 1215 Registered: 5-2009 |
Is pain a relevant reason for the tears? Did you want her to cry in order to wet her eyes? | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 1088 Registered: 8-2011 |
Is pain a relevant reason for the tears? Pain is relevant and might have contributed to her crying, but I did not inflict pain in order to make her cry. Did you want her to cry in order to wet her eyes? No | ||
| Rogerchang (Rogerchang)
New member Username: Rogerchang Post Number: 80 Registered: 9-2012 |
Were you two in trouble? Was your sister's life threatened? Yours? Her eyes were sick somehow? | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 1090 Registered: 8-2011 |
Were you two in trouble? Depends on your definition of "trouble". We were not going to be punished, if that's what you mean. For other definitions, see below. Was your sister's life threatened? I thought so at the time. Yours? No Her eyes were sick somehow? No | ||
| Beachbum (Beachbum)
New member Username: Beachbum Post Number: 441 Registered: 2-2012 |
Did you think that making your sister cry would be good for her physical health? Mental health? Did you want someone else to see here cry? | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 1092 Registered: 8-2011 |
Did you think that making your sister cry would be good for her physical health? Yes-ish or maybe yope Mental health? No Did you want someone else to see here cry? No, or irrelevant | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 2593 Registered: 11-2008 |
Was there another option other than crying that you thought would have done more harm than crying? If so, do you still think your reasoing was correct? Did you try to save her from physical/psychological/other harm? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1652 Registered: 1-2011 |
Was making her cry your main purpose? Or was your purpose to do something else to her and her crying was just a side result? | ||
| Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd Post Number: 2115 Registered: 6-2008 |
Did you think it would help her health to eat an onion, which made her cry when you cut it? | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 1095 Registered: 8-2011 |
Alhucema Was there another option other than crying that you thought would have done more harm than crying? Yope or Yes-ish. If so, do you still think your reasoing was correct? Hm. I still think that the possible outcome of her NOT crying is worse than the certain outcome of her crying. That's the best way I know to answer that question without introducing a false assumption. Did you try to save her from physical/psychological/other harm? Yope Sorry for all the "yope"s, but it would depend on how you interpret these and some previous questions. There may be an FA, but I'm not sure how to address it just yet without giving too much away. Redwine Was making her cry your main purpose? Yes-ish, although there is more to it. Or was your purpose to do something else to her and her crying was just a side result? Yes-ish to this as well, if I understand your question. My specific purpose was to make her cry, but you might call her crying a means to an end. Biograd Did you think it would help her health to eat an onion, which made her cry when you cut it? No, I don't think this would have worked. | ||
| Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd Post Number: 2117 Registered: 6-2008 |
Following the fact that pain was relevant, did you think that making her cry would ease the pain? that it would help whatever was causing her pain? Does it matter where in her body the pain was? | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 1100 Registered: 8-2011 |
Following the fact that pain was relevant, did you think that making her cry would ease the pain? No that it would help whatever was causing her pain? Yope Does it matter where in her body the pain was? Yes | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 17919 Registered: 4-2010 |
Were her eyes hurting? | ||
| Rogerchang (Rogerchang)
New member Username: Rogerchang Post Number: 81 Registered: 9-2012 |
Was the pain in her Bladder? in a specific organ? | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 1103 Registered: 8-2011 |
Balin Were her eyes hurting? No Rogerchang Was the pain in her Bladder? No in a specific organ? Yes-ish or Yope: naming the overall body part, such as "hand" (although that is not it), would be more helpful than trying to pinpoint a specific organ. | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2913 Registered: 12-2010 |
Was the pain in her head? chest? tummy? arm? leg? foot? | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 1112 Registered: 8-2011 |
Was the pain in her head? This one chest? tummy? arm? leg? foot? No to the rest | ||
| Rogerchang (Rogerchang)
New member Username: Rogerchang Post Number: 82 Registered: 9-2012 |
Was the pain caused by an obscure illness? | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 1115 Registered: 8-2011 |
Was the pain caused by an obscure illness? No, not an illness | ||
| Sundowner (Sundowner)
New member Username: Sundowner Post Number: 1183 Registered: 6-2003 |
Was the pain in a specific part of the head? in the ears? in the eyes? in the nose? in the mouth? in the throath? in the teeth? You said you were outdoors .. were you swimming? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2923 Registered: 12-2010 |
Relevant what caused the pain? Did she get hurt by something? If so, had something fallen onto her head? An apple maybe? | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 1116 Registered: 8-2011 |
Sundowner Was the pain in a specific part of the head? in the ears? in the eyes? in the nose? in the mouth? in the throath? in the teeth? I'm not sure about some of those, but I think it was the far right side of her forehead, just above her temple. You said you were outdoors .. were you swimming? No Doriana Relevant what caused the pain? Yes Did she get hurt by something? Yes If so, had something fallen onto her head? Not fallen... An apple maybe? No | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 5791 Registered: 9-2010 |
Did something hit her on the forehead? | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 1121 Registered: 8-2011 |
Did something hit her on the forehead? Yes | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 5792 Registered: 9-2010 |
was it thrown at her? swung at her? purposely? by accident? was another person responsible for the injury, or did the object propel itself? did she walk into it (such as a wall or a door?) | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 1122 Registered: 8-2011 |
was it thrown at her? swung at her? This purposely? by accident? and this was another person responsible for the injury,That would be... me. or did the object propel itself? no did she walk into it (such as a wall or a door?) But this is true too | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 5794 Registered: 9-2010 |
xD Poor Ciaokitteh. So...you swung something which then accidentally hit your sister because she walked into it... Did you swing it: harder? farther? higher? lower? than you meant to, and so it hit her? Were you playing golf, and you ignored the rule about not swinging the club above your knees? (I think Tortie actually did that and hit me before...O_O) | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 1123 Registered: 8-2011 |
Did you swing it: harder? farther? higher? lower? than you meant to, and so it hit her? Were you playing golf, and you ignored the rule about not swinging the club above your knees? No to all | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2933 Registered: 12-2010 |
Were you on the swings and accidentally hit her with your feet? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1655 Registered: 1-2011 |
Did you want to use her tears to clean the injury? To cool the injured place? | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 1124 Registered: 8-2011 |
Doriana Were you on the swings and accidentally hit her with your feet? No Redwine Did you want to use her tears to clean the injury? No To cool the injured place? No again, but interesting ideas | ||
| Solo1 (Solo1)
New member Username: Solo1 Post Number: 323 Registered: 5-2012 |
Is the title relevant? is '8th' relevant? | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 1126 Registered: 8-2011 |
Is the title relevant? In a somewhat lateral way- it might help you figure out part of the puzzle (Googlepedia allowed) is '8th' relevant? Not to the puzzle | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 1828 Registered: 4-2007 |
Did you hit her with some kind of sports equipment? A ball? Baseball bat? Tennis racket? | ||
| Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd Post Number: 2119 Registered: 6-2008 |
Did you open or slam a door in her face? | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 1530 Registered: 3-2006 |
Was she bleeding? Did it cause an open wound? Concussion relevant? | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 1128 Registered: 8-2011 |
Enjay Did you hit her with some kind of sports equipment? Yes A ball? No Baseball bat? Yes, unfortunately Tennis racket?No Biograd Did you open or slam a door in her face? No Jumpingjack Was she bleeding? No Did it cause an open wound? No Concussion relevant? This was possible, though I was too young to know anything about it. | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 1531 Registered: 3-2006 |
What was it about her crying that was necessary- her tears? the face she makes when crying? the noise she makes? Did you have some special knowledge of head injuries that we are unlikely to know? Would a bystander understand what you were trying to do? | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 1131 Registered: 8-2011 |
What was it about her crying that was necessary- her tears? No the face she makes when crying? No the noise she makes? Yes-ish or yope Did you have some special knowledge of head injuries that we are unlikely to know? No, quite the opposite. I think most adults might have done things differently. Would a bystander understand what you were trying to do? Perhaps, but perhaps not. It would likely be more obvious to someone who had seen the entire incident. Great questions | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 1844 Registered: 4-2007 |
Did you knock her unconscious? Did you want her to cry because crying would prove that she was all right? Did you want her crying to attract help? Attention? Were you trying to avoid getting into trouble for hurting her? | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 1134 Registered: 8-2011 |
Did you knock her unconscious? I wasn't sure. Did you want her to cry because crying would prove that she was all right? Yes-ish Did you want her crying to attract help? No Attention? No Were you trying to avoid getting into trouble for hurting her? No | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 1848 Registered: 4-2007 |
Did you try to make her cry because crying would let you know she was conscious? | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 1135 Registered: 8-2011 |
Did you try to make her cry because crying would let you know she was conscious? Yes, and not just conscious but also...? | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 1849 Registered: 4-2007 |
Alive? | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 1137 Registered: 8-2011 |
Alive? Well, yes, but more specifically? If you think I'm nitpicking, let me know and I'll spoyle or at least reveal part of what I'm looking for. You're only missing the final connection! | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 1851 Registered: 4-2007 |
You're not nitpicking! Did you worry she was braindamaged? In a coma? Had a fractured skull? | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 1533 Registered: 3-2006 |
Breathing??!! | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 1138 Registered: 8-2011 |
Enjay You're not nitpicking! Did you worry she was braindamaged? In a coma? Had a fractured skull? Any of these, but mostly... Jumpingjack Breathing??!! This! Would someone like to put it all together or should I spoyle? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2974 Registered: 12-2010 |
You and your little sister were playing outside when you hit her with a baseball bat. You weren't sure if you had knocked her unconscious, and to find out if she was conscious/alright, you wanted to make her cry because this would show that she is still breathing. Correct? And I'd like to know how the story ended - did she have to go to hospital? | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 1139 Registered: 8-2011 |
You and your little sister were playing outside when you hit her with a baseball bat. You weren't sure if you had knocked her unconscious, and to find out if she was conscious/alright, you wanted to make her cry because this would show that she is still breathing. Correct? Correct! And I'd like to know how the story ended - did she have to go to hospital? Yes, but she was ok. **********SPOILER********** When I was about 12 years old, I played softball on a community team. I was practicing my swings in my backyard one day when my mother sent my little sisters to tell me to come inside and eat before the game. I did not hear them run up behind me, but I felt the bat hit the youngest one (about 3 or 4 years old) on my backswing. I immediately sent one of the girls, Codi, into the house to get my mother. Meanwhile the other sister and I stayed with Mouse (the one I hit), who was lying very still and silent and staring straight up at the sky. "I think you killed her," said my other sister. "Is she even breathing?" I couldn't tell, and I didn't know how the adults figured it out. Mouse did not answer my questions, so I started yelling at her, even threatening to hit her again. I love my little sister very much, so I did my best to make her cry. It worked. She responded by crying, and I knew she could breath. My mother had just gotten outside when Mouse started crying, and Mouse told her that she was crying because I "telled mean things" to her (and as it turns out, Codi had told Mama that I killed Mouse with the baseball bat). We took her to the hospital, but there was no major damage- no fractures, concussions, or anything of that nature. She did have a bruise though. To this day, I don't know exactly why she didn't answer me when I asked if she was ok or why she didn't cry in pain when she was hit. I suppose it shocked her so much that she could neither cry nor speak. In any case, I was just glad that she was not seriously hurt. Thanks to all that participated. | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 1536 Registered: 3-2006 |
That sounds like a really terrifying situation for you and your family! Glad she was ok. |
