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[Tiger] Biting the bullet

Postby Tiger » Wed Oct 05, 2016 2:28 pm

I have a bad habit that I've developed over the years.
In an effort to consciously combat this, I spend a good amount of time doing something I don't want to do.


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Re: [Tiger] Biting the bullet

Postby Solong » Wed Oct 05, 2016 4:01 pm

Are you 'you,' or is this a hypothetical 'you'?
Does it make any difference if you are a HAF/HAM, whatever?
Do you need some kind of 'prop' for this bad habit?
Does it require another person/persons?
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Re: [Tiger] Biting the bullet

Postby GalFisk » Wed Oct 05, 2016 4:09 pm

Habit: doing something? Avoiding something? Food or drink involved? Finances? Does the habit affect your health? Relationships? Free time? Is it embarrassing? Does it take up a lot of time? Do you do the thing you don't want instead of engaging in the habit? Is it being something you don't want to do relevant? Waking up to an alarm relevant?
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Re: [Tiger] Biting the bullet

Postby Tiger » Wed Oct 05, 2016 4:54 pm

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Are you 'you,' or is this a hypothetical 'you'?
I am me!

Does it make any difference if you are a HAF/HAM, whatever?
HAM. I would guess that this kind of habit would be more likely among adults (human) / people over the age of 12-13-ish. Gender is irr.

Do you need some kind of 'prop' for this bad habit?
Yes, but this could be a number of different things that I would, in this instance, be using for the same purpose.

Does it require another person/persons?
No.


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Habit:
Doing something?
Yes, slight -ish.

Avoiding something? Food or drink involved? Finances?
No to these.

Does the habit affect your:
Health?
Relationships?
Free time?
No to all.

Is it embarrassing? Does it take up a lot of time?
No and no.

Do you do the thing you don't want instead of engaging in the habit?
Yes.

Is it being something you don't want to do relevant?
Yes, but it's not particularly off-putting or grueling.

Waking up to an alarm relevant?
No.
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Re: [Tiger] Biting the bullet

Postby GalFisk » Wed Oct 05, 2016 7:42 pm

Does the habit require using your feet? Hands? Arms? Legs? Mind? Eyes? Voice? Mouth? Nose? Ears? Fingers? Toes? Can you avoid doing it by willpower alone? Do you do it consciously? Do you do it while stressed? Distracted? In some other relevant mental state?
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Re: [Tiger] Biting the bullet

Postby Tiger » Thu Oct 06, 2016 12:49 am

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Does the habit require using your:
Feet? Hands? Arms? Legs? Mind? Eyes? Voice? Mouth? Nose?
Ears? This one.
Fingers? Toes?

Can you avoid doing it by willpower alone?
Yes.

Do you do it consciously?
Yes.

Do you do it while stressed? Distracted? In some other relevant mental state?
No.
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Re: [Tiger] Biting the bullet

Postby Twilightseeker » Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:35 am

Do you listen to something? Hear something? do something else with your ears? Wiggle them? Wear earrings?
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Re: [Tiger] Biting the bullet

Postby Tiger » Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:01 pm

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Do you listen to something?
This one.

Hear something? do something else with your ears? Wiggle them? Wear earrings?
No to rest.
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Re: [Tiger] Biting the bullet

Postby GalFisk » Thu Oct 06, 2016 5:02 pm

Do you listen to: music? Noise? People? Conversations? One half of phone conversations? Gossip? Things you don't want to hear? Things others don't want you to hear? Things others don't know you hear?
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Re: [Tiger] Biting the bullet

Postby Tiger » Thu Oct 06, 2016 10:23 pm

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Do you listen to: music?
I assume you mean the habit - in which case - yes.

Noise? People? Conversations? One half of phone conversations? Gossip? Things you don't want to hear? Things others don't want you to hear? Things others don't know you hear?
No to rest.
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Re: [Tiger] Biting the bullet

Postby hackum » Fri Oct 07, 2016 5:35 pm

Hi!

Are you listening to music while doing/trying to do something else?
Going to sleep?
Driving?
Working?
Physical activity, for example cycling?

Type of music relevant?

Method of listening to music relevant?
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Re: [Tiger] Biting the bullet

Postby Tiger » Fri Oct 07, 2016 5:44 pm

Hackum
Hi!
Hi there! Welcome!

Are you listening to music while doing/trying to do something else?
Going to sleep?
Driving?
Working?
Physical activity, for example cycling?
Any of these would work. The context/setting of in which I listen to music is irrelevant.

Type of music relevant?
No.

Method of listening to music relevant?
Could you specify what you mean by 'method'?
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Re: [Tiger] Biting the bullet

Postby hackum » Fri Oct 07, 2016 6:04 pm

Are you listening to music on headphones? On a phone? Music player? Radio?

Does listening to music hamper your ability to do something else?

(edited) Does your bad habit involve doing something mentally/physically while the music is playing?

Is your profession relevant?
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Re: [Tiger] Biting the bullet

Postby Tiger » Sat Oct 08, 2016 8:17 pm

Hackum
Are you listening to music on headphones? On a phone? Music player? Radio?
On headphones, but doesn't really matter.

Does listening to music hamper your ability to do something else?
No.

Does your bad habit involve doing something mentally/physically while the music is playing?
No.

Is your profession relevant?
No.
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Re: [Tiger] Biting the bullet

Postby Twilightseeker » Sat Oct 08, 2016 10:06 pm

Is the thing you don't want to do related to listening to music at all? Or is it something else entirely?

Do you listen to music via a streaming service such as Pandora or Spotify? Relevant?

Are playlists involved?

Could this happen if you had no control of the music you were listening to (i.e. music played on the radio by someone else, music played in a public space)?
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Re: [Tiger] Biting the bullet

Postby GalFisk » Sun Oct 09, 2016 8:29 am

Will breaking the habit mean listening to: less music? Other music? Music at a lower volume? Something other than music? Silence? People? Nature? Noise?
Does the habitual music listening relieve stress? Anxiety? Boredom? Irritability? Unwanted thoughts? Daydreaming? Does it make time go faster?
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Re: [Tiger] Biting the bullet

Postby Tiger » Sun Oct 09, 2016 4:55 pm

Twilightseeker
Is the thing you don't want to do related to listening to music at all? Or is it something else entirely?
Yes, it's related to listening to music.

Do you listen to music via a streaming service such as Pandora or Spotify?
No.

Relevant?
Yes.

Are playlists involved?
No.

Could this happen if you had no control of the music you were listening to (i.e. music played on the radio by someone else, music played in a public space)?
No!


Galfisk
Will breaking the habit mean listening to: less music? Other music? Music at a lower volume? Something other than music? Silence? People? Nature? Noise?
Any of these would probably work except for "music at a lower volume."

Does the habitual music listening relieve stress? Anxiety? Boredom? Irritability? Unwanted thoughts? Daydreaming? Does it make time go faster?
All of the above, but irrel to the puzzle.
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Re: [Tiger] Biting the bullet

Postby GalFisk » Mon Oct 10, 2016 5:26 pm

Do you listen on tape? Vinyl? Radio? CD? MP3? What you don't want: do you listen to music you don't like? Listen to ads? To nothing?
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Re: [Tiger] Biting the bullet

Postby Tiger » Wed Oct 12, 2016 2:31 am

Galfisk
Do you listen on tape? Vinyl? Radio? CD? MP3?
MP3s, on my phone.

What you don't want:
do you listen to music you don't like?
Yes!

Listen to ads?
To nothing?
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Re: [Tiger] Biting the bullet

Postby Tiger » Mon Oct 17, 2016 1:25 am

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Tiger wrote:I have a bad habit that I've developed over the years.
In an effort to consciously combat this, I spend a good amount of time doing something I don't want to do.


Recap
My bad habit is related to listening to music. It's something that I can stop doing by sheer force of will, but choose not to.

This habit does not interfere with my day-to-day life. The devices I'm using/the setting/my emotions are not relevant (most of the time, I listen to music on my phone while commuting to work).

My way of fighting it is to listen to music that I don't like/don't want to listen to. Can you make sense of this?
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Re: [Tiger] Biting the bullet

Postby Balin » Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:10 am

Does the music serve as a distraction?
Do you sing along to the music?
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Re: [Tiger] Biting the bullet

Postby GalFisk » Mon Oct 17, 2016 7:02 am

Do you commute by: public transport? Car? Bicycle? Feet? Does music you like make you: sing? Hum? Move to the music? Drive to fast? Turn up the volume too high? Be less considerate of those around you?
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Re: [Tiger] Biting the bullet

Postby Tiger » Mon Oct 17, 2016 2:34 pm

Balin
Does the music serve as a distraction?
No.

Do you sing along to the music?
Yes.


Galfisk
Do you commute by: public transport? Car? Bicycle? Feet?
I take the subway.

Does music you like make you: sing? Hum? Move to the music? Drive to fast? Turn up the volume too high? Be less considerate of those around you?
I hum or mouth the words, no to the rest. It may be relevant that I enjoy the music actively.
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Re: [Tiger] Biting the bullet

Postby Zanreo » Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:34 am

So is the habit humming/mouthing the words along to the music? Especially if you like it? Because this would look weird to others or be annoying? And you're less likely to do it with music you don't like?
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Re: [Tiger] Biting the bullet

Postby Tiger » Tue Oct 18, 2016 2:25 am

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So is the habit humming/mouthing the words along to the music? Especially if you like it? Because this would look weird to others or be annoying? And you're less likely to do it with music you don't like?
This isn't it.
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Re: [Tiger] Biting the bullet

Postby biograd » Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:23 pm

Do you listen to music you cannot sing? either because it is instrumental? or the lyrics are in a foreign language you can't pronounce well?
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Re: [Tiger] Biting the bullet

Postby Tiger » Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:38 pm

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Do you listen to music you cannot sing? either because it is instrumental? or the lyrics are in a foreign language you can't pronounce well?
Nope. My habit does not have to do with singing/humming/mouthing, but is exacerbated by how I listen to music as an activity rather than as a distraction or background noise.
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Postby Balin » Tue Oct 18, 2016 2:32 pm

Is it a habit because you are focused on the music and thus tune out other noises? Do you miss your subway stop because of it?
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Re: [Tiger] Biting the bullet

Postby Tiger » Tue Oct 18, 2016 2:58 pm

Balin
Is it a habit because you are focused on the music and thus tune out other noises? Do you miss your subway stop because of it?
Nope.
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Re: [Tiger] Biting the bullet

Postby psymann » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:44 pm

'Bad' habit because it's bad for you? Embarrasses you? Annoys other people? Damages something?

Does the music you like encourage you to move?

Do other people notice you have this habit?
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Re: [Tiger] Biting the bullet

Postby Tiger » Tue Oct 18, 2016 8:39 pm

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'Bad' habit because it's bad for you? Embarrasses you? Annoys other people? Damages something?
None of these. It's a minor annoyance to myself.

Does the music you like encourage you to move?
Sometimes, irrel.

Do other people notice you have this habit?
No! It's very personal.

It's likely that many/most of you are also susceptible to a similar phenomenon but I've made a habit of it.
I'm sure it's happened to you before.
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Re: [Tiger] Biting the bullet

Postby psymann » Wed Oct 19, 2016 10:13 am

Your bad habit is only 'bad' because it slightly annoys you?
Not for any other reason?


And apologies as I've confused myself a bit here with the definition of 'habit', so:

Does the habit require using your...Ears? This one.

Do you listen to: music? I assume you mean the habit - in which case - yes.


You bad habit is the act listening to music?
...and therefore it involves your ears because you use your ears to listen to music?

My bad habit is related to listening to music.


Your bad habit is not the act of listening to music itself, but is something related to you listening to music?
...something triggered by your listening to music you like?
...and is something that you do while you listen?
...or is something that you do after you listen?
...and it is this other something that involves your ears?


Or are you defining your bad habit as a "combination-of-both-listening-to-music-and-also-something-else"?
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Re: [Tiger] Biting the bullet

Postby Twilightseeker » Wed Oct 19, 2016 10:21 am

Is the bad habit the fact that you tend to only listen to songs you know/like and don't branch out enough?

Does your bad habit have a physical manifestation? Or is it purely mental?
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Re: [Tiger] Biting the bullet

Postby Tiger » Wed Oct 19, 2016 1:48 pm

Psymann
Your bad habit is only 'bad' because it slightly annoys you?
Not for any other reason?
Correct. It's not damaging to my own or anyone else's health, it's not offensive, nor is it debilitating in any way.

You bad habit is the act listening to music?
It's part of it.
...and therefore it involves your ears because you use your ears to listen to music?
Yes.

Your bad habit is not the act of listening to music itself, but is something related to you listening to music?
Yes.
...something triggered by your listening to music you like?
Yes.
...and is something that you do while you listen?
Yes-ish, DYOD of "do".
...or is something that you do after you listen?
No, if you by 'after,' you mean once the music is off.
...and it is this other something that involves your ears?
See above.

Or are you defining your bad habit as a "combination-of-both-listening-to-music-and-also-something-else"?
Yes.


Twilightseeker

Is the bad habit the fact that you tend to only listen to songs you know/like and don't branch out enough?
No, but certainly OTRT and relevant!

Does your bad habit have a physical manifestation? Or is it purely mental?
Purely mental.
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Re: [Tiger] Biting the bullet

Postby psymann » Wed Oct 19, 2016 2:57 pm

When you listen to music you like, you think thoughts that you don't think while listening to music you dislike? And you find those thoughts mildly irritating?
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Re: [Tiger] Biting the bullet

Postby Tiger » Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:40 am

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When you listen to music you like, you think thoughts that you don't think while listening to music you dislike? And you find those thoughts mildly irritating?
No & no.
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Re: [Tiger] Biting the bullet

Postby psymann » Thu Oct 20, 2016 4:30 pm

Ok, this is a bit of a repeat but I think I've missed something:

- Your habit is purely mental?

- Your habit is not related to emotions? Therefore not related to the way you feel?
(other than your habit is a source of mild irritation to yourself)

- Your habit is something that happens while you listen to music you like?

- Your habit it something that doesn't happen while you listen to music you dislike?

- You unemotionaly, purely mental habit, does not involve thinking thoughts?

- Does your habit occur if there is silence?
- If there is silence, do you just put on music you like?
- So the reason for having music you dislike is to stop you putting on music you do like?
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Re: [Tiger] Biting the bullet

Postby Tiger » Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:33 pm

Psymann
Ok, this is a bit of a repeat but I think I've missed something:

- Your habit is purely mental? Mental/behavioral.

- Your habit is not related to emotions? Therefore not related to the way you feel?
(other than your habit is a source of mild irritation to yourself) Yope. Difficult to answer. I suppose I become irritated because of an emotion I end up feeling because of the habit.

- Your habit is something that happens while you listen to music you like? Yes.

- Your habit it something that doesn't happen while you listen to music you dislike? Correct! It would not happen with music I dislike.

- You unemotionaly, purely mental habit, does not involve thinking thoughts? Again, difficult to answer but I hope I've answered this above.

- Does your habit occur if there is silence? No.
- If there is silence, do you just put on music you like? Yes.
- So the reason for having music you dislike is to stop you putting on music you do like? Yes!
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Re: [Tiger] Biting the bullet

Postby psymann » Sat Oct 22, 2016 5:51 pm

Does the music you like remind you of something?

Does the music you like generally exhibit similar characteristics (like always slow, always with depressing lyrics, always bouncy, always strong rhythm, always singing, always orchestral)?
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Re: [Tiger] Biting the bullet

Postby Tiger » Mon Oct 24, 2016 3:50 pm

Psymann
Does the music you like remind you of something? No.

Does the music you like generally exhibit similar characteristics (like always slow, always with depressing lyrics, always bouncy, always strong rhythm, always singing, always orchestral)? No.
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Re: [Tiger] Biting the bullet

Postby Grip » Fri Oct 28, 2016 11:03 am

Do you mentally "sing along" with the words of the music? anticipate the words? if the music you liked was purely instrumental would it have the same effect?
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Re: [Tiger] Biting the bullet

Postby Tiger » Tue Nov 01, 2016 3:45 pm

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Do you mentally "sing along" with the words of the music? anticipate the words? Irrel to both.
if the music you liked was purely instrumental would it have the same effect? Yes.
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Re: [Tiger] Biting the bullet

Postby Grip » Tue Nov 01, 2016 4:05 pm

Is the bad habit daydreaming while the music is playing? being distracted by it? zoning out and just focusing on the music? does it make you fall asleep? just get drowsy? Personally, I get drowsy listening to music many times.
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Re: [Tiger] Biting the bullet

Postby JenBurdoo » Fri Nov 04, 2016 10:45 am

Do you use it to keep yourself awake while driving? (I sometimes listen to something unfamiliar or discordant to keep myself from becoming distracted.)
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Re: [Tiger] Biting the bullet

Postby Konnie » Wed Mar 22, 2017 1:39 am

Does the music you like cause specific emotions which cause the habit? Depression, happiness, anger, confusion, self-doubt?
You said earlier it was otrt that you listened to the same music and don't branch out enough. Could you achieve your same goal by listening to new music that you're unfamiliar with, but do like? Is there any sort of time frame for when​ music you like starts making you do your 'habit?' Or would you do it the first time you listen to a song you like?
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