[GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

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[GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby GalFisk » Sun Apr 09, 2017 8:20 pm

It is absolutely essential that you commit a pretty serious crime.
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby WiZ » Sun Apr 09, 2017 8:47 pm

Right-o. Just set fire to the House of Parliament. What next?

Seriously, though:

Does everybody do this? Every adult? Child? Is it done once? Is it still a crime in most/every jurisdiction? Would the performance of this crime ever be prosecuted?

Is the crime committed actively? Passively? Is it done in the course of another action, or is there a required action that is in itself somehow criminal?
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Postby Grip » Sun Apr 09, 2017 9:39 pm

Is the penalty for the crime very steep?
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby GalFisk » Mon Apr 10, 2017 7:17 am

Right-o. Just set fire to the House of Parliament. What next? Solve the puzzle and you'll have your new mission.

Seriously, though:

Does everybody do this? Every adult? Child? Is it done once? No to all. Is it still a crime in most/every jurisdiction? Noish, explore.Would the performance of this crime ever be prosecuted? Not if done in the way that's essential.

Is the crime committed actively? Passively? Can be either. Is it done in the course of another action, Yes.or is there a required action that is in itself somehow criminal? It would be criminal if it was done in a similar way.

Is the penalty for the crime very steep? I'm not sure. The crime is related to another crime which does carry very steep penalties.
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby Westing1992 » Mon Apr 10, 2017 5:13 pm

So, is it necessary to commit this crime when in the process of committing another crime? Is it one of things that's considered a crime so they can nab criminals more easily (sort of like income tax evasion being used to prosecute criminals who obtained income illegally)? Resisting arrest relevant?

It's essential because... it would get caught otherwise? And they couldn't be prosecuted because... they wouldn't be caught? They'd be dead?

Could one break this law unintentionally? Would an otherwise innocent person be able to break this law? Be prosecuted for it? Break it but he found innocent under the doctrine of absurdity (ex. a prisoner breaking out of a prison, but not being punished because the prison was on fire at the time)?
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby GalFisk » Mon Apr 10, 2017 7:13 pm

So, is it necessary to commit this crime when in the process of committing another crime? No. Is it one of things that's considered a crime so they can nab criminals more easily (sort of like income tax evasion being used to prosecute criminals who obtained income illegally)? Yesish. Resisting arrest relevant? No.

It's essential because... it would get caught otherwise? No. And they couldn't be prosecuted because... they wouldn't be caught? They'd be dead? No to both.

Could one break this law unintentionally? Would an otherwise innocent person be able to break this law? Be prosecuted for it? Yes to all. Break it but he found innocent Probably. under the doctrine of absurdity But not this. (ex. a prisoner breaking out of a prison, but not being punished because the prison was on fire at the time)? No.
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby Hobbsicle » Fri Apr 14, 2017 2:21 pm

Is it essential: for staying alive? For performing a certain task? For following another law?
Does breaking the law mean performing a certain action? Not performing a certain action?
Is the related crime murder? Assault? Theft? Forgery? Breaking and entering? Tax-related? Alcohol or drug related? Arson?
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby GalFisk » Fri Apr 14, 2017 10:36 pm

Is it essential: for staying alive? This/OTRT, explore.For performing a certain task? Yes. For following another law? Not 'law', otherwise yes.
Does breaking the law mean performing a certain action? This. Not performing a certain action?
Is the related crime murder? Assault? Theft? Forgery? Breaking and entering? Tax-related? Alcohol or drug related? Arson? No to all, though assault and murder are common elements in that crime.
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby Grip » Sun Apr 16, 2017 2:44 am

Is kidnapping relevant?
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby GalFisk » Sun Apr 16, 2017 4:13 am

Is kidnapping relevant? The related crime often involves a sort of kidnapping.
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby Grip » Sun Apr 16, 2017 5:18 pm

Do you have to commit the crime to escape from someone or something?
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby GalFisk » Mon Apr 17, 2017 5:19 am

Do you have to commit the crime to escape from someone or something? Noish, but somewhat OTRT.
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby Hobbsicle » Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:45 am

Are children relevant? Would you be in a particular place to do this? In a particular profession? Is the related crime hijacking? Hostage taking? Extortion?
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby GalFisk » Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:07 am

Are children relevant? No. Would you be in a particular place to do this? Yes. In a particular profession? Yesish, DOYD of "profession". Is the related crime hijacking? Yes. Hostage taking? Extortion? As part of a hijacking, yes to both.
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby Hobbsicle » Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:06 pm

If you were to hijack, would you necessarily be committing the other crime? And if you were committing the other crime, would you necessarily be hijacking? Is a certain kind of vehicle relevant? Car? Train? Plane? Bus?
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby GalFisk » Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:42 pm

If you were to hijack, would you necessarily be committing the other crime? And if you were committing the other crime, would you necessarily be hijacking? No to both. Is a certain kind of vehicle relevant? Yes. Car? Train? Plane? This. Bus?
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby Hobbsicle » Tue Apr 18, 2017 4:19 pm

Entering the cockpit relevant? Bringing something on board? Interacting with other people?

Would this scenario occur in an emergency? Would it apply to someone with a particular health condition?
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby GalFisk » Tue Apr 18, 2017 4:27 pm

Entering the cockpit relevant? No. Bringing something on board? Yes. Interacting with other people? Yope.

Would this scenario occur in an emergency? Yesish,
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Would it apply to someone with a particular health condition? No.
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby Hobbsicle » Thu Apr 20, 2017 4:08 am

Would simply the bringing of the something on board be illegal? Or what you do with it later? Would the emergency-ish situation occur before the flight leaves? During the flight?
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby GalFisk » Thu Apr 20, 2017 4:32 am

Would simply the bringing of the something on board be illegal? Yes. Or what you do with it later? No.
Would the emergency-ish situation occur before the flight leaves? During the flight? This.
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby biograd » Thu Apr 20, 2017 2:26 pm

Would the object illegally brought on board be a type of weapon? Would it be used to get people out of the plane during an emergency? to repair some part of the plane?
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby Westing1992 » Thu Apr 20, 2017 3:58 pm

Is the item a container of liquid?
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby GalFisk » Thu Apr 20, 2017 4:29 pm

Would the object illegally brought on board be a type of weapon? Yes. Would it be used to get people out of the plane during an emergency? No, but OTRT. to repair some part of the plane? No

Is the item a container of liquid? No.
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby Grip » Thu Apr 20, 2017 7:54 pm

Is the weapon a gun?

Are air marshals relevant?
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby GalFisk » Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:19 pm

Is the weapon a gun? No.

Are air marshals relevant? No
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby Grip » Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:12 pm

Is the weapon a knife? bomb? poison? something more exotic like a throwing star or sword?
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby GalFisk » Sat Apr 22, 2017 5:14 pm

Is the weapon a knife? Yes. bomb? poison? something more exotic like a throwing star or sword?
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby Grip » Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:40 pm

Is the knife needed to thwart/counterattack the hijackers? threaten them?
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby GalFisk » Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:43 pm

Is the knife needed to thwart/counterattack the hijackers? FA. threaten them? No to both.
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby Grip » Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:47 pm

Is the knife needed to hijack the plane?
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby GalFisk » Sun Apr 23, 2017 5:58 pm

Is the knife needed to hijack the plane? No.
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby Grip » Wed Apr 26, 2017 12:36 am

Is the knife needed for something other than as a weapon?
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Re: [GalFisk] La Cosa Nostra

Postby GalFisk » Wed Apr 26, 2017 2:48 am

Is the knife needed for something other than as a weapon? Yes.
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