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Postby irishelk » Mon Aug 21, 2017 1:09 pm

Mike, who was not a doctor, suggested that it would be good for his friend Jim to stop taking his medication. Mike later regretted the suggestion, but not just because it made Jim ill.
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Postby Earnest » Mon Aug 21, 2017 7:28 pm

So...all HAM? Was the medication for Jim? If not did mike know it?

Did the stop suggested by M, have negative consequences on J? On M? On others? Relevant the reason why M made the suggestion to J? Is it relevant which was the medication? A pill? Is it relevant the profession of J? The one of M?
Relevant if J had an illness? If so, relevant which one?

Did J follow M siuggestion? Or he continued to do the medication?
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Postby Balin » Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:35 pm

Did Jim become ill for taking his medication?
Had Jim taken the medication to treat an illness? If so, a physical illness? Mental illness?
Relevant Jim's profession? Mike's?
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Postby irishelk » Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:08 am

Earnest

So...all HAM? Yes. Was the medication for Jim? Yes. If not did mike know it?

Did the stop suggested by M, have negative consequences on J? Yes. On M? No. On others? Yes, indirectly. Relevant the reason why M made the suggestion to J? Yes. Is it relevant which was the medication? Yes. A pill? I believe so. The form of medicine (pill vs. liquid, etc.) isn't relevant, but something about it is. Is it relevant the profession of J? No, but might help you. The one of M? Ditto.
Relevant if J had an illness? Yes. If so, relevant which one? Yes.

Did J follow M suggestion? Yes. Or he continued to do the medication? Yope.


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Did Jim become ill for taking his medication? Yes, possibly DOYD of "ill".
Had Jim taken the medication to treat an illness? Yes. If so, a physical illness? Yes. Mental illness? No. Relevant Jim's profession? Mike's? See above.
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Postby Earnest » Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:51 am

Was the one of J a common ill? (I mean the one for which he took the medication) A cold? A contagious disease?
symptoms = cough? temperature? sore throat?

So J stop the original medication, right? But was him forced/did he choose to follow an alternative form of medication? E.g. a natural one?
Did M suggested to J just to stop the medication? Or did he suggest also an alternative?

The form of medicine (pill vs. liquid, etc.) isn't relevant, but something about it is--> is it relevant how the medication should be taken? E.g. with water? Expiry date? Availability of the medication? Taste? Side effects? Dosage?

Did M and J work together? Did M suggested J to stop the medication because of the contraindications/side effects of the medication? Was J embarrassed for some discomfort caused by the medication? Was him unable/forced not to do something due to the medication?

Did M regret of his suggestion after having seen J again? Did he regret after a month? A week? Few days? Few seconds? Few hours? Minutes? Relevant the relationship between J and M? Were them friends? Brothers? Is blood somehow involved?
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Postby Westing1992 » Sat Aug 26, 2017 3:06 pm

Was the medicine prescription?
Operating heavy machinery relevant? Drowsiness? Insomnia?
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Postby irishelk » Mon Aug 28, 2017 12:51 pm

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Was the one of J a common ill? (I mean the one for which he took the medication) I'll say no--you've heard of it, but most people don't get it. A cold? A contagious disease?
symptoms = cough? temperature? sore throat? No to rest.

So J stop the original medication, right? Yesish. But was him forced/did he choose to follow an alternative form of medication? E.g. a natural one? No.
Did M suggested to J just to stop the medication? Yesish. Or did he suggest also an alternative? No.

The form of medicine (pill vs. liquid, etc.) isn't relevant, but something about it is--> is it relevant how the medication should be taken? E.g. with water? Expiry date? Availability of the medication? Taste? Side effects? Dosage? No to all.

Did M and J work together? Yes. Did M suggested J to stop the medication because of the contraindications/side effects of the medication? No. Was J embarrassed for some discomfort caused by the medication? No. Was him unable/forced not to do something due to the medication? No, maybe explore.

Did M regret of his suggestion after having seen J again? Yes, but irr. Did he regret after a month? A week? Few days? Few seconds? Few hours? Minutes? Probably months to years, but irr. Relevant the relationship between J and M? Not really. Were them friends? Yes. Brothers? No.
Is blood somehow involved? In a way.

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Was the medicine prescription? Yes.
Operating heavy machinery relevant? Drowsiness? Insomnia? No to rest.
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Postby irishelk » Tue Sep 12, 2017 11:15 pm

HINT: Mike changed his mind about something major.
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Postby Earnest » Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:04 am

Was mike concerned about the fact that jim could infect someone else?

something major = something related to the illness? Is it relevant the regularity with which M took the medicine? Hadn't he take the pill, was there a risk that he was not covered for another medicine he needed? Was there the risk that M forget something important? Assume water? Assume something he needed which hw took together with the pill?
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Postby irishelk » Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:28 pm

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Was mike concerned about the fact that jim could infect someone else? No.

something major = something related to the illness? No. Is it relevant the regularity with which M took the medicine? No. Hadn't he take the pill, was there a risk that he was not covered for another medicine he needed? No.Was there the risk that M forget something important? Assume water? Assume something he needed which he took together with the pill? No to rest.
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Postby Earnest » Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:47 am

wow what a nice turn I had ahahahaha

was it required that J make some type of analysis in order to take/ to continue taking the medicine? (e.g. blood draw)

Did J appear weaker than before? Was something changed in their relationship when J began to take the pill? Was something changed in J's behavior? Was something changed at all? Did J need to use a wheelchair? Was J able to move or did he have difficulties? Did he have pains? If so which part of his body was the most affected: stomach? Eyes? Arms? Legs? Back? Feet? is it a physical disease in the sense that it involves mainly internal organs? Skin? Bones? (arthrosis?)

Had their job something to do with pharmaceutical industry? Hospitals? Medicine? (I mean M was not a doctor does not imply that he did not work in an hospital for instance right?)

Was J illness infectious?
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Postby irishelk » Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:58 pm

Earnest

wow what a nice turn I had ahahahaha It's important to rule things out too. :lol:

was it required that J make some type of analysis in order to take/ to continue taking the medicine? (e.g. blood draw) No.

Did J appear weaker than before? Noish. Was something changed in their relationship when J began to take the pill? No. Was something changed in J's behavior? No. Was something changed at all? At one point, yes.
Did J need to use a wheelchair? No. Was J able to move Yes. or did he have difficulties? Yes. Did he have pains? Probably but irr. If so which part of his body was the most affected: stomach? Eyes? Arms? Legs? Back? Feet? None of these areas relevantly. is it a physical disease Yes... in the sense that it involves mainly internal organs? Skin? Bones? See next answer... (arthrosis?) Yes! (Well, some kind of arthritis at least.)

Had their job something to do with pharmaceutical industry? No. Hospitals? Medicine? (I mean M was not a doctor does not imply that he did not work in an hospital for instance right?) True! But no to all. =)

Was J illness infectious? No.
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Postby Earnest » Tue Sep 26, 2017 8:21 am

so brief recap...M told J not to take his pill for arthrosis but then regret it, right?

Maybe already asked but to be sure...was M aware that J suffered from that specific disease? Or did he usually see J just taking pills? Did M see J taking pills just in a particular part of the day? Like at lunch? Is it relevant? Stop taking medication = stop taking pills for arthrosis at all? Or stop taking other medications? I mean...maybe M see J when he takes the pills for diabetes (example) and he told him to stop taking that pills and not the arthrosis ones...

Was the suggestion of M mainly led by: the use/abuse of pills made by J? The fact that J needed to take the pills in particular times during the day? The well being of J (I mean, what M thought was the well-being of J)? J's performances at work? Something related to the work? The fact that if J took the medicines he (J) was unable to do something? (e.g. something forbidden to people with such sort of diseases)
Are M and J retired? Or do they actually work together? Pink collars? White collars? Blue collars? Food related job? Health care related job? Army? Offices relevant?
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Postby irishelk » Sun Oct 01, 2017 7:51 pm

Earnest

so brief recap...M told J not to take his pill for arthrosis but then regret it, right? Right. Technically it's rheumatoid arthritis, not super-relevant.

Maybe already asked but to be sure...was M aware that J suffered from that specific disease? Yes. Or did he usually see J just taking pills? Did M see J taking pills just in a particular part of the day? Like at lunch? Is it relevant? Irr.
Stop taking medication = stop taking pills for arthrosis at all? Yope. Or stop taking other medications? No. I mean...maybe M see J when he takes the pills for diabetes (example) and he told him to stop taking that pills and not the arthrosis ones... Not this.

Was the suggestion of M mainly led by: the use/abuse of pills made by J? No. The fact that J needed to take the pills in particular times during the day? No. The well being of J (I mean, what M thought was the well-being of J)? In a sense. J's performances at work? No. Something related to the work? No. The fact that if J took the medicines he (J) was unable to do something? Noish, but explore. (e.g. something forbidden to people with such sort of diseases) Not this.
Are M and J retired? J is retired in a sense, but they do work together. Or do they actually work together? Pink collars? White collars? I'd say this, but kind of hard to classify. Their exact jobs might help but are not central to the solution. Blue collars? Food related job? Health care related job? Army? Offices relevant? No to rest.
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Postby Hobbsicle » Sun Oct 15, 2017 3:01 am

Does M suggest that J still get his prescription filled, but not take them? Perhaps sell them? Or do something else with them other than take them the standard way?
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Postby irishelk » Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:31 am

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Does M suggest that J still get his prescription filled, but not take them? Possibly, prescription irr. Perhaps sell them? No. Or do something else with them other than take them the standard way? No.
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Postby Balin » Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:50 pm

The thing Mike changed his mind about - something related to his personal life? His occupation? Something related to Jim?
Is marriage relevant?
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Postby irishelk » Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:00 pm

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The thing Mike changed his mind about - something related to his personal life? His occupation? Only indirectly. Something related to Jim? Yes.
Is marriage relevant? Very indirectly.
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Postby Hobbsicle » Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:12 am

Does Mike make the suggestion for Jim's best interests? For his own best interests? For the best interests of another? Were either of them in danger? Is anyone else relevant to the puzzle? Was his suggestion intended to be short-term? Indefinite? Permanent?
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