[IrishElk] The Usual Suspects

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[IrishElk] The Usual Suspects

Postby irishelk » Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:46 pm

You miscfam in two steps. You do not know it when Step One has happened. Step One can happen days, months or years before Step Two. Step Two might never come, in which case one has semi-miscfamed.

When I complete a miscfaming, I suppose I should feel good, though typically I am a little embarrassed.
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Re: [IrishElk] The Usual Suspects

Postby Balin » Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:49 pm

Would other people who complete this feel good? Feel embarrassed?
Can you miscfam more than once in your life?
Is it possible for Step One to never come at all?
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Re: [IrishElk] The Usual Suspects

Postby Enjay » Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:54 pm

If someone has semi-miscfamed, presumably they would not know it? Would anyone else be able to know? Would it be possible to establish in any way whether Step One has happened to someone before Step Two happens?

Would you know it when Step Two happens? Once Step Two happens, would one retrospectively be able to identify when Step One happened?
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Re: [IrishElk] The Usual Suspects

Postby trebor » Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:25 pm

Does miscfaming require more than one person? If yes, at the first stage? The second? Are any relevant objects used? During the first stage? The second?When one completes a miscfam would one typically remember completing the first step? Is miscfaming primarily a physical activity? An intellectual one? An emotional one?
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Re: [IrishElk] The Usual Suspects

Postby irishelk » Wed Nov 15, 2017 2:18 am

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Would other people who complete this feel good? Possibly. Feel embarrassed? Probably.
Can you miscfam more than once in your life? Yes.
Is it possible for Step One to never come at all? Yes.

And if all of you deny ever miscfaming, I'm going to be even more embarrassed / not believe you. :lol:



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If someone has semi-miscfamed, presumably they would not know it? Correct.Would anyone else be able to know? Yes, quite possibly. Would it be possible to establish in any way whether Step One has happened to someone before Step Two happens? Yes.

Would you know it when Step Two happens? Yes. Once Step Two happens, would one retrospectively be able to identify when Step One happened? Yes, in most cases.


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Does miscfaming require more than one person? No. If yes, at the first stage? The second?
Are any relevant objects used? Yes (exactly what the objects are might vary). During the first stage? Yes. The second? Yes. When one completes a miscfam would one typically remember completing the first step? Yes. Is miscfaming primarily a physical activity? DOYD, but I'll say partly. An intellectual one? Yes. An emotional one? Often but not necessarily.
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Re: [IrishElk] The Usual Suspects

Postby trebor » Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:39 pm

Would an average person complete either of the steps more often than the other throughout their life? Is step one something that is done regularly? Does miscfaming involve reading? Crafting? Photos or photo albums? Cleaning? Assembling something? Is a misunderstanding or miscommunication relevant to miscfaming?
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Re: [IrishElk] The Usual Suspects

Postby irishelk » Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:42 pm

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Would an average person complete either of the steps more often than the other throughout their life? I imagine some people are more likely to do it that others, especially Step One. Is step one something that is done regularly? Not the exact circumstances of Step One, but it does involve a common activity. Does miscfaming involve reading? Crafting? Photos or photo albums? Cleaning? Assembling something? No to all.
Is a misunderstanding or miscommunication relevant to miscfaming? YES, definitely misunderstanding. In a vague sense it is also a miscommunication.
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Re: [IrishElk] The Usual Suspects

Postby CoffeeBean » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:26 pm

Once a person completes Step One, is Step Two inevitable?
Does a person who has completed Step One realize that they can complete Step Two?
When Step One is completed, is a person's life made easier? More difficult? No change?
Same q's for Step Two.
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Re: [IrishElk] The Usual Suspects

Postby irishelk » Sat Nov 18, 2017 3:00 pm

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Once a person completes Step One, is Step Two inevitable? No.
Does a person who has completed Step One realize that they can complete Step Two? Noish--they know they can perform the action, but aren't aware of Step One or Step Two occurring.
When Step One is completed, is a person's life made easier? More difficult? No change? This.
Same q's for Step Two. Largely no change, a few specific things might be easier.
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Re: [IrishElk] The Usual Suspects

Postby Balin » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:45 pm

Does Step Two involve realizing there was a miscommunication? Correctly understanding something?
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Re: [IrishElk] The Usual Suspects

Postby irishelk » Mon Nov 20, 2017 11:57 am

Balin

Does Step Two involve realizing there was a miscommunication? Or at least a misunderstanding, yes. Correctly understanding something? Yes.
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Re: [IrishElk] The Usual Suspects

Postby biograd » Mon Nov 20, 2017 11:15 pm

From the last two answers, I presume that Step Two involves interacting somehow with the world in addition to the realization? (because it is not really possible to "know you can perform the action of realizing something" without having already realized it)

Assuming that is true, does it involve asking a person a question? looking up a fact?

Is the relevant misunderstanding between the "miscfamer" and another person? over some words that were said?
Or, does it relate to a sensory observation made "solo" by the "miscfamer" (e.g. seeing something and drawing a conclusion from that)?
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Re: [IrishElk] The Usual Suspects

Postby irishelk » Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:11 pm

biograd

From the last two answers, I presume that Step Two involves interacting somehow with the world in addition to the realization? Yes. (because it is not really possible to "know you can perform the action of realizing something" without having already realized it) Very true!

Assuming that is true, does it involve asking a person a question? No. looking up a fact? No.

Is the relevant misunderstanding between the "miscfamer" and another person? No. over some words that were said? No.
Or, does it relate to a sensory observation made "solo" by the "miscfamer" Exactly. (e.g. seeing something and drawing a conclusion from that)? Yes!
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Re: [IrishElk] The Usual Suspects

Postby trebor » Thu Nov 23, 2017 8:35 am

Is the "something" that one sees (from the last round of questions) a household object? Is it the only relevant object to miscfaming?

Does miscfaming involve solving puzzles or riddles? Does it involve the LTPF? If you were to feel better after miscfaming would it be because you had that misunderstanding corrected?
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Re: [IrishElk] The Usual Suspects

Postby irishelk » Thu Nov 23, 2017 6:02 pm

trebor

Is the "something" that one sees (from the last round of questions) a household object? I'll say no, though it could be seen in a house. Is it the only relevant object to miscfaming? Yes, and yope to "object."

Does miscfaming involve solving puzzles or riddles? No. Does it involve the LTPF? No. If you were to feel better after miscfaming would it be because you had that misunderstanding corrected? Yes.
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Re: [IrishElk] The Usual Suspects

Postby Balin » Thu Nov 23, 2017 6:13 pm

Does Step One involve drawing a conclusion? The right one? The wrong one?
Same questions for Step Two?
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Re: [IrishElk] The Usual Suspects

Postby irishelk » Fri Nov 24, 2017 1:52 pm

Balin

Does Step One involve drawing a conclusion? In a sense, though I wouldn't quite call it that and the doer of step one certainly wouldn't. The right one? The wrong one? In the sense that it is a conclusion, it is wrong.

Does Step One involve drawing a conclusion? Yes, in part. The right one? This. The wrong one?
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