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[Solong] Younger son

Postby Solong » Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:02 pm

Sylvia paid good money to examine Brian's used underwear.
She was very pleased. So was he.

Yes, this is like a puzzle I hosted back in May. However, it is a different situation with a different solution.
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Re: [Solong] Younger son

Postby trebor » Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:18 pm

Is Sylvia’s profession relevant? Is Brian’s? Are they pleased for the same reason? Are they both HA, and the gender their names imply?
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Re: [Solong] Younger son

Postby Earnest » Wed Nov 29, 2017 7:28 am

Is Brian famous? E.g. sylvia bought online the used underwear of B who maybe also signed them? Do Brian and Sylvia meet?
Or did he just examine B's underwear? Underwear = pants?

Was B a male stripper? Did B wear the used underwear S wanted to examine? Did S want him to get off his trousers? Was the main intent of S to examine the underwear?
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Re: [Solong] Younger son

Postby Solong » Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:56 am

Is Sylvia’s profession relevant? Is Brian’s? No to both. Are they pleased for the same reason? Yes.Are they both HA, and the gender their names imply? Yes
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Re: [Solong] Younger son

Postby Solong » Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:00 am

Is Brian famous? No. E.g. sylvia bought online the used underwear of B who maybe also signed them? Do Brian and Sylvia meet? at some point
Or did he just examine B's underwear? DOYD 'examine' Underwear = pants? In this case, a T-shirt.

Was B a male stripper? Did B wear the used underwear S wanted to examine? Yes, no to the others.
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Re: [Solong] Younger son

Postby Earnest » Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:01 am

So B is a male stripper...was he at Sylvia's party? Was B's T-shirt wet? Are S and B related somehow? Were there other people or were them alone? Did B wear the T-shirt?

Examine the T-shirt = touch it? S want B to take off his T-shirt (supposing he was wearing it)?
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Re: [Solong] Younger son

Postby Solong » Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:48 pm

So B is a male stripper...was he at Sylvia's party? I think my answer was unclear. He was not a stripper. Was B's T-shirt wet?No, n.r. Are S and B related somehow? No.Were there other people or were them alone? Other people were involved.Did B wear the T-shirt? At some point he did.

Examine the T-shirt = touch it? Not primarilly touching it.S want B to take off his T-shirt (supposing he was wearing it)? He had to take it off so she could examine it.
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Re: [Solong] Younger son

Postby Earnest » Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:15 pm

Is S's main goal to look accurately the T-shirt of Brian? Did S contact B in order to examine his T-shirt? Was there something relevant on the T-shirt? Like it was signed by someone? Did B and S meet specifically to examine the T-shirt?
Had S a specific interestto buy the T-shirt? Once S has examined the T-shirt, will she take it back to B? It depends? Has the T-shirt an additional value a part from its basic one (I mean the value of the material and time spend for producting the T-shirt)? Could the T-shirt be considered unique? Was S looking for something?

Relevant what was written over the T-shirt? If the T-shirt was sonehow consumed? A second hand T-shirt (B was not the original owner)? Did the T-shirt reveal something? Was S interested in looking inside the T-shirt (the tag?)?
Relevant where B and S meet each other? Did S want to "examine" B's shirt before they had seen each other? Had S examined many similar T-shirts before? Is it a normal request for her? Is the brand of the T-shirt relevant?

Strange question...can S be considered satified:
a) as soon as B took off the T-shirt (did he take it off?)
b) as soon as B gave her the T-shirt?
c) as soon as she overturned the T-shirt?
d) as soon as she gave the T-shirt back to B?

Is it a Tv show? A game?
S paid money = physically gave money to B? as soon as he accepted to gave her the T-shirt? After that?
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Re: [Solong] Younger son

Postby Solong » Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:28 pm

Is S's main goal to look No.accurately the T-shirt of Brian? Did S contact B in order to examine his T-shirt? they need not have had direct contact at all. Was there something relevant on the T-shirt? Like it was signed by someone? No to both.Did B and S meet specifically to examine the T-shirt? Assume they did not meet during the puzzle.
Had S a specific interestto buy the T-shirt? She did not buy it.Once S has examined the T-shirt, will she take it back to B? It depends? the final disposition of the t-shirt is n.r. Has the T-shirt an additional value a part from its basic one (I mean the value of the material and time spend for producting the T-shirt)? Yessish.Could the T-shirt be considered unique?Yessish Was S looking for something? Yes.

Relevant what was written over the T-shirt? If the T-shirt was sonehow consumed? No to both. A second hand T-shirt (B was not the original owner)?AFAIK, B was the original owner. Did the T-shirt reveal something? yessish Was S interested in looking inside the T-shirt (the tag?)? no
Relevant where B and S meet each other? no Did S want to "examine" B's shirt before they had seen each other? yes.Had S examined many similar T-shirts before? n.r.Is it a normal request for her? It would be considered a normal request. Is the brand of the T-shirt relevant? No.

Strange question...can S be considered satified:
a) as soon as B took off the T-shirt (did he take it off?)
b) as soon as B gave her the T-shirt?
c) as soon as she overturned the T-shirt? No to all
d) as soon as she gave the T-shirt back to B? No to this too.

Is it a Tv show? A game? No.
S paid money = physically gave money to B? No. There is a 3rd party involved. as soon as he accepted to gave her the T-shirt? After that?
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Re: [Solong] Younger son

Postby Earnest » Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:19 pm

To be sure...is B alive? Would B pretend a gain in order to give someone the opportunity to examine his used underwear? Is S original intent to examine B's underwear? Is a crime by the 3rd party in act? Had B the opportunity to had the t-shirt (I mean to physically have b's t-shirt on her hand?)?

Is it something done online? Done on the internet? Did she examine a picture of the T-shirt? 3rd party = the website owner? An intermediary? Is his/her job relevant? Did he/she bring the T-shirt to B?

Examine = which sense is mainly used by S to examine the T-shirt: Smell? Taste? Sight? Hearing? Touch? Is B's T-shirt examined by B among many others?
Can B examine the T-shirt without seeing it? Was she interested mainly in an element of the T-shirt? Was she interested in the T-shirt directly? Did she want to wear the t-shirt?
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Re: [Solong] Younger son

Postby Solong » Sat Dec 02, 2017 5:43 pm

To be sure...is B alive? YesWould B pretend a gain in order to give someone the opportunity to examine his used underwear? Don't think anyone has anything to gain by pretending to be anything.Is S original intent to examine B's underwear? Not her sole intent. Is a crime by the 3rd party in act? no crime involved. Had B the opportunity to had the t-shirt (I mean to physically have b's t-shirt on her hand?)? Yessish - that is, maybe not the entire t-shirt.

Is it something done online? Done on the internet?No. Did she examine a picture of the T-shirt? No. 3rd party = the website owner? An intermediary? This is closest. Is his/her job relevant? Yes. Did he/she bring the T-shirt to B? To Sylvia, yes.

Examine = which sense is mainly used by S to examine the T-shirt: Smell? This. Taste? Sight? Hearing? Touch? Is B's T-shirt examined by B among many others? Sylvia might be examining the t-shirts of other men also.
Can B examine the T-shirt without seeing it? Not in a specific way.Was she interested mainly in an element of the T-shirt? Yessish.Was she interested in the T-shirt directly? simply as an article of clothing? no.Did she want to wear the t-shirt? no.
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Re: [Solong] Younger son

Postby Earnest » Sat Dec 02, 2017 5:58 pm

Sorry for having been confusonary with Bs and Ss...


Did S smell the T-shirt? Was S aware of that?She paid money to smell t'shirts/used underwears? If so, relevant which part of the underwear she smelled first? Underarm? Deodorant relevant?
Did S need to identify someone by the smell of his/her underwear? Is the 3rd party a host? Identify the gender of someone? A characteristic of someone by the smell of the T-shirt? Like in a tv show: she needed to identify a characteristic of someone and smelling the underwear was a bonus for which she needed to pay an amount of money?

Could it be considered a challenge? After she had examined the t-shirt did she need to comunicate the smell of the t-shirt? Her opinion about something? Did she need to face a choice?
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Postby Solong » Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:52 pm

Did S smell the T-shirt? Was S aware of that?She paid money to smell t'shirts/used underwears? Yes to all. If so, relevant which part of the underwear she smelled first? Underarm? Seems likely. Deodorant relevant? The participants were told to wear the t-shirtsfor2 days w/o bathing, so assume they didn't use deodorant either.
Did S need to identify someone by the smell of his/her underwear? Identify is not quite the right word Is the 3rd party a host? A business owner.Identify the gender of someone? No A characteristic of someone by the smell of the T-shirt? YopeLike in a tv show: she needed to identify a characteristic of someone and sImelling the underwear was a bonus for which she needed to pay an amount of money? No. Smelling the t-shirt was the point of it.

Could it be considered a challenge? After she had examined the t-shirt did she need to comunicate the smell of the t-shirt? No to both. Her opinion about something? Yessish Did she need to face a choice? YES.
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Re: [Solong] Younger son

Postby Earnest » Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:44 pm

was it a poll? was she asked by the business owner to choose one? The one that smelled better?
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Re: [Solong] Younger son

Postby Solong » Tue Dec 05, 2017 8:50 pm

was it a poll? was she asked by the business owner to choose one? The one that smelled better? The purpose of the test was to choose the one that smelled better to her, but no poll was being taken.
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Re: [Solong] Younger son

Postby Earnest » Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:35 pm

Is the business of the third party related to the test? Is it a test on the smell? On the capacity of people to face a choice using just the smell? On t-shirts? On Brian? On Sylvia?
Did she smell also the businness owner's t shirt? Her own underwear? Did she need to recognize a particular t shirt? The owner of a particular t shirt? Did she paid good money to do that because it was an opportunity to meet someone? To partecipate to a test?

Once she had chosen the one which smelled better to her, did the owner used it in advertisment for a product? Took note of that?Were pictures relevantly taken during the test?

When S smelled the t shirt did B wear it?
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Re: [Solong] Younger son

Postby biograd » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:15 am

Was this a scientific experiment? If so, it's a quite famous experiment, so in that case I won't post anymore--I was actually thinking of that during the first puzzle with a similar statement.
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Re: [Solong] Younger son

Postby Solong » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:17 pm

Is the business of the third party related to the test? YessishIs it a test on the smell? Yessish. On the capacity of people to face a choice using just the smell? Yessish On t-shirts? On Brian? On Sylvia? No to these last 3.
Did she smell also the businness owner's t shirt? No. Her own underwear? No! That would be kinky! :o Did she need to recognize a particular t shirt? The owner of a particular t shirt? Did she paid good money to do that because it was an opportunity to meet someone? Yes. No or n.r. to the rest. To partecipate to a test?

Once she had chosen the one which smelled better to her, did the owner used it in advertisment for a product? No.Took note of that? YesWere pictures relevantly taken during the test? No.

When S smelled the t shirt did B wear it?No. He was not wearing it at the time.
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Postby Solong » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:20 pm

Was this a scientific experiment? Not an experiment - a business transaction. If so, it's a quite famous experiment, so in that case I won't post anymore--I was actually thinking of that during the first puzzle with a similar statement.
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Postby Earnest » Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:40 pm

A part from the transaction of S (she gave money to the businness owner to smell the t-shirts right?) was a businness transaction made between owner and B? Between owner and S? Did the owner need to face a choice as well? Was the choice of S made in public? (E.g. in tv?radio?) Relevant?

During the two days in which the participant needed to wear the underwear, was it asked to them to make also something else? Liketo run? To make sport? To sweat with the t-shirt? To use a relevant product? Was the t-shirt smelling better baught by someone? Inserted in a list of possible choices? Is a perfume/cosmetic relevant?

Did S want to meet one of her relatives? A famous person? The businness owner?

Was the businness owner interested to the reaction of S when smelling the t shirts? Did he know how the t shirts smell? Was S a common person which had nothing to do with the businness owner? Businnness = perfume? T shirts? Was it a pharmaceutic business and they were interested in find a cure for colds? Was S chosen randomly? Just because she paid good money? Because she had a relevant characteristic? Problems with her nose? With her perception of smells?
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Re: [Solong] Younger son

Postby Solong » Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:11 pm

A part from the transaction of S (she gave money to the businness owner to smell the t-shirts right?) was a businness transaction made between owner and B? Between owner and S? Did the owner need to face a choice as well? Was the choice of S made in public? (E.g. in tv?radio?) Relevant? All of this either n.r. or IDK.

During the two days in which the participant needed to wear the underwear, was it asked to them to make also something else? Liketo run? To make sport? Just to behave as they normally would. To sweat with the t-shirt? To use a relevant product? No. Was the t-shirt smelling better It does not smell better. baught by someone?The shirt, as a shirt, is not bought by anybody. Inserted in a list of possible choices? It is involved in making a choice. Is a perfume/cosmetic relevant? No.

Did S want to meet one of her relatives? A famous person? The businness owner? No to all.

Was the businness owner interested to the reaction of S when smelling the t shirts? Yes!Did he know how the t shirts smell? He probably has some idea, but not specifically. Was S a common person which had nothing to do with the businness owner? Except as a client, yes. Businnness = perfume? T shirts? Was it a pharmaceutic business and they were interested in find a cure for colds? No to all.Was S chosen randomly? Just because she paid good money?She was self-chosen, in a sense. Because she had a relevant characteristic? Problems with her nose? With her perception of smells? No to all.
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Re: [Solong] Younger son

Postby Earnest » Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:19 am

Will Sylvia meet the owner of t-shirt (B) she had chosen? Is he a sort of "magician"? Like he woukd like to understand the ideal man for Sylvia? Did Sylvia look for a boyfriend?

So the better the smell the happier Sylvia? Would it tell something about the personality of the man wearing the t-shirt? Did she at least hope so? Business owner searched reations like: dislike? Like? Pleasure? Did he expect S to have such reactions? Was S self conscious? Was she asleep? Faint?hypnotized?

Businness owner...well tell tou my WAG which I know is not correct, but you know...like a possibke alternative solution...I was thinkng to something like business owner = private detective. Problems are:a) the men were asked to do so and b) there were more than one men
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Postby trebor » Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:17 pm

If the shirt, as a shirt, was not bought by anybody, was it bought by anyone as something else? If so, during the course of the puzzle? Before? After? Did Sylvia turn it into something else? Did Brian? Did the business owner? Did someone else? Is the exchange of currency between the business owner (or, amusingly-to-me, the BO), the only relevant one here?

Is the fragrance industry relevant? Has the puzzle anything to do with scent memory? Was the BO present when Sylvia smelled the shirt? Was anyone else present? Did Sylvia smell the shirt in her own residence? At the BO's business? Is the business a place into which customers would frequently walk? Does the business have a physical location?
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Re: [Solong] Younger son

Postby Solong » Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:46 pm

Will Sylvia meet the owner of t-shirt (B) she had chosen? Yes, at some point. Is he a sort of "magician"? Like he woukd like to understand the ideal man for Sylvia? Did Sylvia look for a boyfriend? These last 2 sentences are getting warmer.

So the better the smell the happier Sylvia? Yes. Would it tell something about the personality of the man wearing the t-shirt? Did she at least hope so? Yes.Business owner searched reations like: dislike? Like? Pleasure? Did he expect S to have such reactions? He expected her to have some reaction.Was S self conscious? Was she asleep? Faint?hypnotized? She was fully conscious; don't know about self-conscious.

Businness owner...well tell tou my WAG which I know is not correct, but you know...like a possibke alternative solution...I was thinkng to something like business owner = private detective.No. Problems are:a) the men were asked to do so and b) there were more than one men Not altogether wrong, but you were closer before.


Postby trebor » Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:17 pm
If the shirt, as a shirt, was not bought by anybody, was it bought by anyone as something else? If so, during the course of the puzzle? Before? After? Most likely, it was discarded after the experiment. Did Sylvia turn it into something else? Did Brian? Did the business owner? Did someone else? No to all. Is the exchange of currency between the business owner (or, amusingly-to-me, the BO), the only relevant one here? Yes.

Is the fragrance industry relevant? Has the puzzle anything to do with scent memory?No to both. Was the BO present when Sylvia smelled the shirt? Most likely, but n.r.Was anyone else present? Did Sylvia smell the shirt in her own residence? At the BO's business?all n.r. Is the business a place into which customers would frequently walk? Don't think you would call it a walk-in business. Does the business have a physical location? Yes.
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Re: [Solong] Younger son

Postby Earnest » Sun Dec 10, 2017 10:04 am

To be sure...the exchange was just from one side? I mean...the participants gave S their t-shirts but not viceversa right?(S gave underwear to them) Then, were the participants aware of the fact that S would have smelled their t-shirt? And if so, can we assume for sure that they did not wash their t-shirt? They had it on for 48 hours without changing it? That they wore it in a direct contact with their skin (like not having something else under the t-shirt)? Were the t-shirt delivered to the business owner bended? Ironed? Relevant?

Did the participants know that their underwear would have been smelled by a woman? Was it allow for them to wash their t-shirts before giving them to S? Or was S smelling the smell of the skin/sweat of the participants? Was the smell a sort of indicator of the places frequented by the men? Their habits? Like if they were smoker? If they like to fry and so to cook? If they take care of their clothes? If they had a girlfriend/wife? If he is used to iron his clothes? If he had a dog/other animal?

Is S taking advantage of the fact that they had not seen her? Did S want to know a man by just his personality? Did she want to discover something for which they could have lied had they seen each other face to face or weather S had asked them? Did she just want to see whether they were ready to take a t-shirt for two days without changing it and took it to a girl to be smelled? In smelling the t-shirt was S interested on the smell of the t-shirt per se?
Is the way she smelled the t-shirts relevant? Like t-shirts on a table and she smelled them? Or the business owner put the t-shirts on her face for instance? Or she wanted like to understand whether the smell of the t-shirts was good in order to be happy once she sleep with her partner? (supposing the partner would have wore the t-shirt during the night hugging her, she wanted to understand whether she would have liked to be between his arms)

Business owner = psychologist? psychic? did he sell a product? a service?
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Re: [Solong] Younger son

Postby Solong » Mon Dec 11, 2017 10:53 pm

To be sure...the exchange was just from one side? I mean...the participants gave S their t-shirts but not viceversa right?(S gave underwear to them) I think there is reciprocity - it works bothways.Then, were the participants aware of the fact that S would have smelled their t-shirt? YesAnd if so, can we assume for sure that they did not wash their t-shirt? They were told not to. They had it on for 48 hours without changing it? That they wore it in a direct contact with their skin (like not having something else under the t-shirt)? Yes to both. Were the t-shirt delivered to the business owner bended? Ironed? Relevant? n.r.

Did the participants know that their underwear would have been smelled by a woman? Was it allow for them to wash their t-shirts before giving them to S? Or was S smelling the smell of the skin/sweat of the participants? Was the smell a sort of indicator of the places frequented by the men? Their habits? Like if they were smoker? If they like to fry and so to cook? If they take care of their clothes? If they had a girlfriend/wife? If he is used to iron his clothes? If he had a dog/other animal? No to all of these, but she is learning something about them.

Is S taking advantage of the fact that they had not seen her? Did S want to know a man by just his personality? Did she want to discover something for which they could have lied had they seen each other face to face or weather S had asked them? Did she just want to see whether they were ready to take a t-shirt for two days without changing it and took it to a girl to be smelled? All n.r.In smelling the t-shirt was S interested on the smell of the t-shirt per se? Noish
Is the way she smelled the t-shirts relevant? Like t-shirts on a table and she smelled them? Or the business owner put the t-shirts on her face for instance? Or she wanted like to understand whether the smell of the t-shirts was good in order to be happy once she sleep with her partner? (supposing the partner would have wore the t-shirt during the night hugging her, she wanted to understand whether she would have liked to be between his arms) Sort of correct.

Business owner = psychologist? He is using psychology, but that is not his title. psychic? No.did he s
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Re: [Solong] Younger son

Postby Solong » Mon Dec 11, 2017 11:00 pm

Earnest has been circling around the answer, so I think it is close enough for a
***********************SPOILER*************************
This is a dating service which aims to help people find their perfect partner by having them smell each others' dirty t-shirts. It's call the 'Sweat Shop' at NYU. The shirts are cut up into swatches, and if the owners of the shirts found each other's scent agreeable, they are deemed compatible.

Ain't scence wonderful!
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Re: [Solong] Younger son

Postby Earnest » Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:52 am

Wow...I would say...ain't people wonderful! Nice one solong!
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