[dukhsan] Digamma

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[dukhsan] Digamma

Postby dukhsan » Mon Apr 09, 2018 5:42 pm

Inspired by a current puzzle from Yerushalmi.

The game show Wheel of Fortune allows players to 'buy a vowel' to help them solve a puzzle. I can think of one letter that is extremely expensive to obtain in the current day. What is it, and where specifically would it be found? (The answer does not involve game shows.)
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Re: [dukhsan] Digamma

Postby invisiblemimsy » Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:04 pm

ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ&?
A letter in a foreign alphabet?
Is the Wheel of Fortune relevant in any way?
Is the letter expensive per se? Or in a specific situation? For a specific use? Size of letter relevant? Is it representative of something, e.g. a symbol, abbreviation, something on the Periodic table?
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Re: [dukhsan] Digamma

Postby dukhsan » Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:11 pm

ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ&? P.
A letter in a foreign alphabet? No. The title is an obsolete Greek letter, though.
Is the Wheel of Fortune relevant in any way? No.
Is the letter expensive per se? Or in a specific situation? For a specific use? Specific situation is closest. Size of letter relevant? No. Is it representative of something, e.g. a symbol, abbreviation, something on the Periodic table? No.
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Re: [dukhsan] Digamma

Postby biograd » Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:18 pm

Does the letter P added to a word for something turn it into another word for something more expensive? Is "pee" as in urine relevant? Do other letters also have "prices" in the same context, where P is the most expensive? or does it only make sense to think about how expensive P is relative to the absence of a letter?
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Re: [dukhsan] Digamma

Postby dukhsan » Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:28 pm

Does the letter P added to a word for something turn it into another word for something more expensive? In a sense; something that takes more money to obtain. Is "pee" as in urine relevant? No. Do other letters also have "prices" in the same context, where P is the most expensive? Perhaps there may be similar examples out there to adding one letter, but irrelevant. or does it only make sense to think about how expensive P is relative to the absence of a letter? Closer to this, yeah.
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Re: [dukhsan] Digamma

Postby invisiblemimsy » Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:03 pm

Stars relevant? Other heavenly bodies? Is the item an actual P, or something beginning with P? An ingredient? A procedure? Specific situation - always the same one? Occurring frequently? Rarely? Maths relevant? Science? Is the puzzle title worth exploring?
So, you have an item which has a certain monetary value, and you add the letter P to its name, at which point the value increases? Weight relevant? Would/could you buy this item assuming you had the money? Would you want to?
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Re: [dukhsan] Digamma

Postby Balin » Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:05 pm

Is the letter expensive in one particular location? If so, one particular country? City? Building?
Is it expensive anywhere (in this situation)?
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Re: [dukhsan] Digamma

Postby dukhsan » Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:42 pm

Stars relevant? Other heavenly bodies? Neither. Is the item an actual P, or something beginning with P? Something beginning with P. An ingredient? A procedure? Neither. Specific situation - always the same one? I'm thinking of one specific example, though a few others are similar possibilities. Occurring frequently? Rarely? Depends on your definitions for frequency. Maths relevant? Science? Neither. Is the puzzle title worth exploring? No.
So, you have an item which has a certain monetary value, and you add the letter P to its name, at which point the value increases? Not actually a tangible item. Adding the P costs a lot of money. Weight relevant? No. Would/could you buy this item assuming you had the money? Would you want to? Attempts to acquire it do not always succeed. Completely person-dependent for who would want it.

Is the letter expensive in one particular location? If so, one particular country? City? Building? Country - I'm thinking of one, but it's possible to consider it in others.
Is it expensive anywhere (in this situation)? I cannot imagine it as anything but expensive.
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Re: [dukhsan] Digamma

Postby JenBurdoo » Thu Apr 12, 2018 3:04 am

Is it electronic? Anything to do with Bitcoin?
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Re: [dukhsan] Digamma

Postby KayleeArafinwiel » Thu Apr 12, 2018 3:31 am

is the obsolete (in English, anyway) letter "thorn" relevant, which looks somewhat like a P?
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Re: [dukhsan] Digamma

Postby dukhsan » Thu Apr 12, 2018 5:01 pm

Is it electronic? Anything to do with Bitcoin? Neither.

is the obsolete (in English, anyway) letter "thorn" relevant, which looks somewhat like a P? No. Nice guess, though. It is the current glyph P.
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Re: [dukhsan] Digamma

Postby invisiblemimsy » Thu Apr 12, 2018 11:49 pm

Is it the copyright phonograph symbol? ⓟ
Copyright for a sound recording?
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Re: [dukhsan] Digamma

Postby dukhsan » Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:02 am

Is it the copyright phonograph symbol? ⓟ
Copyright for a sound recording? Neither. I did not know about that symbol, though.
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Re: [dukhsan] Digamma

Postby WiZ » Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:16 am

Is it some sort of honorific or qualification? Is it attached to a name?
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Re: [dukhsan] Digamma

Postby dukhsan » Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:34 am

Is it some sort of honorific or qualification? Is it attached to a name? I would say it's closest to an honorific.
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Re: [dukhsan] Digamma

Postby invisiblemimsy » Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:25 am

Could we have a recap, please?
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Re: [dukhsan] Digamma

Postby dukhsan » Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:56 pm

A title associated with certain people is obtained by adding the letter P to a phrase. Adding the letter is very expensive and attempts are not guaranteed to work. The phrase beforehand - without the P - is not used as a title, but it must be true about the person before they can attempt to add the P.
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Re: [dukhsan] Digamma

Postby Zanreo » Fri Apr 13, 2018 2:47 pm

Added to the start of the phrase? The end? Somewhere else?
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Re: [dukhsan] Digamma

Postby dukhsan » Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:26 pm

Added to the start of the phrase? The end? Somewhere else? The start of the phrase.
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Re: [dukhsan] Digamma

Postby KayleeArafinwiel » Fri Apr 13, 2018 10:44 pm

is this honorific used in English?
is it a common title? formal title? academic/professional title? religious title? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_honorifics as used by this list?
or is it in another language? if so, is the country of origin in *LTPF list of continents*?
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Re: [dukhsan] Digamma

Postby dukhsan » Fri Apr 13, 2018 11:44 pm

is this honorific used in English? Yes.
is it a common title? No. formal title? I would say so. academic/professional title? Professional. religious title? No.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_honorifics as used by this list? It is on that page.
or is it in another language? It may work in related languages, but irrelevant if so. if so, is the country of origin in *LTPF list of continents*? USA/North America, but not innately impossible elsewhere. Without looking it up, other places are irrelevant to solving the puzzle.
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Re: [dukhsan] Digamma

Postby KayleeArafinwiel » Sat Apr 14, 2018 12:14 am

Doctor? PhD relevant?
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Re: [dukhsan] Digamma

Postby dukhsan » Sat Apr 14, 2018 3:29 am

Doctor? PhD relevant? Neither.
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Re: [dukhsan] Digamma

Postby Zanreo » Sat Apr 14, 2018 12:22 pm

President?
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Re: [dukhsan] Digamma

Postby dukhsan » Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:34 pm

President? Yes. Nicely done.

******SPOILER******

To go from a resident of the United States to the President of the United States takes a very costly election campaign to add that P - if you even win the vote!

Digamma, also known as wau, is an obsolete Greek letter for the sound we associate with the letter W.

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Re: [dukhsan] Digamma (WAU)

Postby KayleeArafinwiel » Sat Apr 14, 2018 2:53 pm

Ah! Now it makes sense. That's clever!
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