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[IrishElk] The Happening {TRIMMED}

Postby irishelk » Fri Apr 20, 2018 12:34 pm

Because the landscaper had taken a week off, Floyd horribly embarrassed himself.
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Re: [IrishElk] The Happening

Postby invisiblemimsy » Fri Apr 20, 2018 12:36 pm

Did Floyd try to do the landscaping himself? Landscaper and Floyd = HAM, different people? Relevant where the landscaper was doing the landscaping?
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Re: [IrishElk] The Happening

Postby irishelk » Fri Apr 20, 2018 12:43 pm

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Did Floyd try to do the landscaping himself? No. Landscaper and Floyd = HAM, Yes, landscaper's sex irr. different people? Yes.
Relevant where the landscaper was doing the landscaping? Yes.
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Re: [IrishElk] The Happening

Postby GalFisk » Fri Apr 20, 2018 1:12 pm

Did Floyd blame the landscaper for something? Did the landscaper work on Floyd's land? Did Floyd try to take credit for something? Did Floyd lie? Commit a crime? Brag? Try to hide something? Try to hide himself?
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Re: [IrishElk] The Happening

Postby Earnest » Fri Apr 20, 2018 5:21 pm

WAG was Floyd nude on his garden? Is the landscaper of the neighbors that took the week off? Was the landscaper substituted temporarily by soneone else? Was a plant grown/not cut? Was Floyd embarassed in his own house/garden?
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Re: [IrishElk] The Happening

Postby irishelk » Sat Apr 21, 2018 12:52 pm

GalFisk

Did Floyd blame the landscaper for something? Probably. Did the landscaper work on Floyd's land? No.
Did Floyd try to take credit for something? Did Floyd lie? Commit a crime? Yes, or nearly did. Brag? Try to hide something? Try to hide himself? No to rest.


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WAG was Floyd nude on his garden? No. Is the landscaper of the neighbors that took the week off? No. Was the landscaper substituted temporarily by someone else? No. Was a plant grown/not cut? Yes. Was Floyd embarrassed in his own house/garden? No.

Good questions!
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Re: [IrishElk] The Happening

Postby Earnest » Sat Apr 21, 2018 4:54 pm

Did the plant cover something relevant? Uncover it? Was the plant on Floyd's garden? Was the plant very high from the ground? Was it used as a vorder with the neighbors? Has Floyd got neighbors? If he has, would the puzzle work even if he had not? Are the leavers of the plant relevant?...is the plant legal by itself? Are we talking about a potted plant? A tree plant? A cactus? Kind of plant relevant?

Floyd's crime = a minor crime? Did he steal something? Is his crime connected to something he had in his house? In his garden?
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Re: [IrishElk] The Happening

Postby irishelk » Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:56 pm

Earnest

Did the plant cover something relevant? Yes! Uncover it? No. Was the plant on Floyd's garden? No. Was the plant very high from the ground? Yes. Was it used as a border with the neighbors? Possibly. Has Floyd got neighbors? Irr. If he has, would the puzzle work even if he had not? Yes, irr. Are the leaves of the plant relevant? Yes....is the plant legal by itself? Yes. Are we talking about a potted plant? A tree plant? Most likely this. A cactus? Kind of plant relevant? Exact species irr.

Floyd's crime = a minor crime? I'd say yes--by itself it's a misdemeanor, and most people who do it are not caught. Did he steal something? No. Is his crime connected to something he had in his house? In his garden? No to both.
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Re: [IrishElk] The Happening

Postby Earnest » Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:55 pm

Tv cables relevant? Parabolas relevant? Wi-fi? Internet connection? Did it cover sun? Did it cover something up high right? And covering it Floyd had been discovered because: even if the something was covered Floyd was able to do something relevant for which legally the something covered is needed? (A little bit convoluted...hope it is clear) because the coverage of the sonething uncovered sonething else? Was sonething build on the tree? Did the something covered by the tree belong to Floyd's house? Solar panels relevant?
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Re: [IrishElk] The Happening

Postby irishelk » Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:42 pm

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Tv cables relevant? Parabolas relevant? Wi-fi? Internet connection? Did it cover sun? No to these.
Did it cover something up high right? DOYD of high...higher than head height. And covering it Floyd had been discovered because: even if the something was covered Floyd was able to do something relevant for which legally the something covered is needed? (A little bit convoluted...hope it is clear) Do you mean--would his act be legal if the thing was uncovered? If so, no. because the coverage of the sonething uncovered sonething else? No. Was sonething build on the tree? No. Did the something covered by the tree belong to Floyd's house? No. Solar panels relevant? No.
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Re: [IrishElk] The Happening

Postby Earnest » Wed Apr 25, 2018 6:33 am

Can we assume it is a palm tree?
Floyd's crime = something that could be done inside the house? In the garden of the house? Spaces of the house relevant? In growing, did also the roots of the tree relevantly grow? Are pipes involved here? Was the thing covered a part of Floyd's house? A window? A door? A wall?

Is the fact that the plant grew itself a witness of Floyd's crime (in the sense that "had Floyd not committed the crime the plant would have not grown that much?)?

Did the plant cover another plant? Vegetable garden relevant? Were the leaves of the plant that covered the other relevant thing? Other parts of the plant? Relevant? Did the grown up of the plant evidence some contrast at a first glance for instance in the colors of the house? Some incoherence in the making of the house?
Did it evidence that something was higher than a certain treshold (than the head height?)?
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Re: [IrishElk] The Happening

Postby GalFisk » Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:11 am

Did the plant cover text? Is a shadow relevant? If the landcaper had worked, would the plant have been cut down? Trimmed? Moved? Did Floyd count on the landscaper working, when planning his crime?
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Re: [IrishElk] The Happening

Postby irishelk » Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:56 am

Earnest

Can we assume it is a palm tree? Possible, but I think some deciduous trees would work better.
Floyd's crime = something that could be done inside the house?In the garden of the house? Not really. Spaces of the house relevant? No. In growing, did also the roots of the tree relevantly grow?No. Are pipes involved here? No. Was the thing covered a part of Floyd's house? A window? A door? A wall? No to all.

Is the fact that the plant grew itself a witness of Floyd's crime (in the sense that "had Floyd not committed the crime the plant would have not grown that much?)? No, interesting thought.

Did the plant cover another plant? No. Vegetable garden relevant? No. Were the leaves of the plant that covered the other relevant thing? Yes. Other parts of the plant? Relevant? Could be branches too, irr. Did the grown up of the plant evidence some contrast at a first glance for instance in the colors of the house? No. Some incoherence in the making of the house?No.
Did it evidence that something was higher than a certain treshold (than the head height?)? No.


GalFisk

Did the plant cover text? Yes. Is a shadow relevant? No. If the landcaper had worked, would the plant have been cut down? Trimmed? This. Moved? and/or this. Did Floyd count on the landscaper working, when planning his crime? No.
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Re: [IrishElk] The Happening

Postby Earnest » Wed Apr 25, 2018 12:41 pm

So cover text = it covered a writing? Like a relevant part of a word? Did it reveal something relevant? Did it cover a symbol? Did it cover something on the side of Floyd's house? On the side of the street? Did the tree not allow Floyd to commit the crime? Had Floyd the intention to put something above the tree and the fact that it grew up made it visible from the street? Was Floyd intentioned to make a writing visible from the street but the tree did not allowed it? Adress number relevant? Name on the bell relevant?

Is the crime related to: electricity/water any source of energy? Stealing something? Not pay taxes? Fool some passers?
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Re: [IrishElk] The Happening

Postby irishelk » Wed Apr 25, 2018 6:49 pm

Earnest

So cover text = it covered a writing? Yes, but more than just this. Like a relevant part of a word? Not like this. Did it reveal something relevant? No. Did it cover a symbol? Possibly. Did it cover something on the side of Floyd's house? No. On the side of the street? Yes. Did the tree not allow Floyd to commit the crime? No. Had Floyd the intention to put something above the tree and the fact that it grew up made it visible from the street? No. Was Floyd intentioned to make a writing visible from the street but the tree did not allowed it? No. Adress number relevant? No. Name on the bell relevant? No.

Is the crime related to: electricity/water any source of energy? Stealing something? Not pay taxes? Fool some passers? No to these. Though it is illegal, I'm afraid that thinking of it as a "crime" might throw you off.

And actually, Earnest, on further reflection I think it might not be illegal where you are. Sorry to mislead!
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Postby Earnest » Thu Apr 26, 2018 12:54 pm

Oh ok then...no probs :) so the tree was covering a wtiting on the side of the street...so like a street sign? Did it cover a mirror? Something regarding the street rules? Some billboard? Advertisement? An adress? A sign referred to Floyd's private property? To parking? Did it cover the writing partially? Completely? A relevant part of it? Was it visible/understandable from the street? To drivers? If not, did it cause the embaracement of Floyd? If so, same question.

Did Floyd live near a relevant place?
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Re: [IrishElk] The Happening

Postby invisiblemimsy » Fri Apr 27, 2018 12:41 am

Dead body?
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Re: [IrishElk] The Happening

Postby biograd » Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:29 pm

Was the writing graffiti?

Did Floyd put the writing there? or did someone else put it there, but the fact that someone might think he wrote it reflected badly on him? Would he have erased/painted over the writing if he knew it was there, but the plant blocked his view of it so he was unaware?
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Re: [IrishElk] The Happening

Postby irishelk » Thu May 03, 2018 12:35 pm

Earnest

Oh ok then...no probs :) so the tree was covering a wtiting on the side of the street...so like a street sign? Yes.
Did it cover a mirror? Something regarding the street rules? Some billboard? Advertisement? An adress? A sign referred to Floyd's private property? To parking? No to all.
Did it cover the writing partially? Completely? This. A relevant part of it? Was it visible/understandable from the street? No. To drivers? No. If not, did it cause the embarrassment of Floyd? The fact that it was not visible caused the embarrassment, yes. If so, same question.

Did Floyd live near a relevant place? No.


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Dead body? None in this puzzle. :)


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Was the writing graffiti? No.

Did Floyd put the writing there? No. or did someone else put it there, but the fact that someone might think he wrote it reflected badly on him? No. Would he have erased/painted over the writing if he knew it was there, but the plant blocked his view of it so he was unaware?No, but good thought.
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Postby GalFisk » Thu May 03, 2018 2:03 pm

Did he look for the writing? Did he claim there was no writing? Tht there was different writing?
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Re: [IrishElk] The Happening

Postby Earnest » Thu May 03, 2018 4:46 pm

Did the tree covered actually a street sign? Parking ban? Is the writing a ban to do something that is instead done because the ban is not visible? Did the coverqge of the writing cause F to give explanations? To avoid something to happen? To move? Not to do something freely in his house? Outside? P.s. we are talking about F's house right? I mean..his first house? Did the coverage of the writing caused him to answer the bell more often? Was it covered a signal? Was the writing a warning? A phone number? An announcement (like house on sell...)? Something else?

If it covered a street sign...was it an usual street sign? Was it mainly adressed to vehicle on the street? Veihcle parking near F's house? Vehicles in general? Passers? Did it involve some relevant symbol? Symbol of animals? Usual symbols of street signs? Are alarms relevant? Noises in general? Is the embarassement of F mainly during nights? All the day? When there are passers? Trash relevant? Is it like a permanent sign? A sign to tell someone to bring the trash? A sign for someone to do something? Relevant where he lived? ...I was thinking something like he lived in an house in California on a beach and the sign is telling people that the beach is not a nudist beach...xD
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Re: [IrishElk] The Happening

Postby irishelk » Thu May 10, 2018 12:33 pm

GalFisk

Did he look for the writing? Did he claim there was no writing? Tht there was different writing? No to all.


Earnest

Did the tree covered actually a street sign? Yes. Parking ban? No. Is the writing a ban to do something that is instead done because the ban is not visible? No.
Did the coverqge of the writing cause F to give explanations? To avoid something to happen? To move? Not to do something freely in his house? Outside? No to all.
P.s. we are talking about F's house right? No, his house is not involved. I mean..his first house? Did the coverage of the writing caused him to answer the bell more often? No. Was it covered a signal? Was the writing a warning? A phone number? An announcement (like house on sell...)? Something else? This.

If it covered a street sign...was it an usual street sign? Typical in many places, yes. Was it mainly adressed to vehicle on the street? Veihcle parking near F's house? Vehicles in general? No to all. Passers? Possibly. It provides information to people. Did it involve some relevant symbol? There is likely a symbol, not super relevant. Symbol of animals? No. Usual symbols of street signs? DOYD. Are alarms relevant? Noises in general? No.
Is the embarassement of F mainly during nights? All the day? When there are passers? No to all, FA I think. Trash relevant? No. Is it like a permanent sign? Yes. A sign to tell someone to bring the trash? No. A sign for someone to do something? It does not instruct people to do something, but might cause them to do something.
Relevant where he lived? ...I was thinking something like he lived in an house in California on a beach and the sign is telling people that the beach is not a nudist beach...xD Haha, no. You are OTRT in the sense that he does something inappropriate, because he doesn't see the sign.
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Re: [IrishElk] The Happening

Postby irishelk » Tue May 22, 2018 7:06 pm

***********************************RECAP

Because a landscaper was not working, a tree grew and covered an informational street sign. Neither Floyd, the plant nor the landscaper are at Floyd's house, in his yard or his neighbors'. Because the sign was covered, Floyd committed an inappropriate action that caused him to be embarrassed.

His action is illegal or of questionable legality in many areas. The illegal action is not directly related to the plant or its growth. The sign is a type that usually contains words and symbols, and is not directed toward drivers.
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Re: [IrishElk] The Happening

Postby invisiblemimsy » Thu May 24, 2018 4:34 pm

No streaking? No nudity? No bathing costumes? Other things pertaining to dress? No hugging, petting, diving in the shallow end? No bathing in this pool/pond/other body of water because it's private? Is there a school nearby? No removing clothes in front of the children? Sharks? No taking photographs? Private property? Don't do anything at all and go away?
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Postby android18 » Thu May 24, 2018 4:34 pm

Did he attempt to move the street sign? Is it a road name sign? Stop sign? Had names of places on it (e.g. cities)? Speed limit? Is it even relevant what type of sign it is? Would the sign being covered result in Floyd breaking the law? Is he responsible for the upkeep of the plant? Is it even his tree? Was the landscaper hired by the council?
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Re: [IrishElk] The Happening

Postby irishelk » Thu May 31, 2018 12:37 am

invisiblemimsy

No streaking? No nudity? No bathing costumes? Other things pertaining to dress? No hugging, petting, diving in the shallow end? No bathing in this pool/pond/other body of water because it's private? Is there a school nearby? No removing clothes in front of the children? Sharks? No taking photographs? Private property? Don't do anything at all and go away? The sign doesn't say any of these, but impressive list!


android18

Did he attempt to move the street sign? No. Is it a road name sign? Stop sign? Had names of places on it (e.g. cities)? Speed limit? No to these. Is it even relevant what type of sign it is? Yes. Would the sign being covered result in Floyd breaking the law? Yes, or nearly breaking it. Is he responsible for the upkeep of the plant? Floyd? No. Is it even his tree? No. Was the landscaper hired by the council? Irr.
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Re: [IrishElk] The Happening

Postby android18 » Thu May 31, 2018 2:25 pm

Is Floyd responsible for the sign then? Is his embarrassment to do with damaging the tree? The sign? Taking matters into his own hands when he shouldn't have?
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Re: [IrishElk] The Happening

Postby wolfier » Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:55 am

Is the sign a toilet sign? Entering the washroom for the wrong sex relevant?
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Re: [IrishElk] The Happening

Postby irishelk » Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:00 pm

android18

Is Floyd responsible for the sign then? No. Is his embarrassment to do with damaging the tree? The sign? Taking matters into his own hands when he shouldn't have? No to all.


wolfier

Is the sign a toilet sign? No. Entering the washroom for the wrong sex relevant? No.
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Re: [IrishElk] The Happening

Postby wolfier » Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:50 am

is jaywalking relevant?
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Postby irishelk » Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:50 pm

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is jaywalking relevant? No.
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Re: [IrishElk] The Happening

Postby wolfier » Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:13 am

is the misdemeanor: loitering? annoyance e.g. making noise? throwing rubbish inappropriately? drinking? excessive use of some resource? victimless?
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Re: [IrishElk] The Happening

Postby irishelk » Sat Jun 23, 2018 12:53 pm

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is the misdemeanor: loitering? annoyance e.g. making noise? throwing rubbish inappropriately? drinking? excessive use of some resource? None of these. victimless? Depends on whom you ask.
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Postby wolfier » Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:57 am

is the sign a common sight? is it normally understood by a layperson? climate/location-dependent?

does the covering of the sign make people mistake something for something else, and then they take actions which would cause the embarrassment? animals relevant?
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Re: [IrishElk] The Happening

Postby irishelk » Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:36 pm

wolfier

is the sign a common sight? Yes, in many places. is it normally understood by a layperson? Yes. climate/location-dependent? Not climate, but it is only found on certain streets.

does the covering of the sign make people Well, Floyd specifically... mistake something for something else, and then they take actions which would cause the embarrassment? Yes! For SVV of "something". animals relevant? No.
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Re: [IrishElk] The Happening

Postby android18 » Sat Jul 14, 2018 1:48 pm

Are any other people involved? Does he mistake a person for an inanimate object? Is the sign something to do with plants? Falling rocks? Is the exact wording of the sign relevant? Does it contain any words at all?
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Re: [IrishElk] The Happening

Postby irishelk » Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:11 pm

android18

Are any other people involved? Yes. Does he mistake a person for an inanimate object? No, but he is mistaken about a person. Is the sign something to do with plants? No. Falling rocks? No. Is the exact wording of the sign relevant? No. Does it contain any words at all? Probably one or two, but not necessarily.

Good questions.
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Postby trebor » Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:33 pm

No smoking? Is there precisely one other relevant person? HAM? Are any non-human animals relevant? Is the person standing under the sign? In some other place near the sign?
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Re: [IrishElk] The Happening

Postby android18 » Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:07 pm

Does Floyd think someone is doing something illegal because he misreads the sign? And performs a citizen's arrest? Tries to interfere with what someone is doing?
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Re: [IrishElk] The Happening

Postby irishelk » Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:30 pm

trebor

No smoking? No. Is there precisely one other relevant person? Yes. HAM? HAF. Are any non-human animals relevant? No. Is the person standing under the sign? YES. In some other place near the sign?


android18

Does Floyd think someone is doing something illegal Yes... because he misreads the sign? No. And performs a citizen's arrest? No. Tries to interfere with what someone is doing? No.
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Re: [IrishElk] The Happening

Postby wolfier » Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:46 pm

Was the purpose of the sign relevant to height of people?
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Re: [IrishElk] The Happening

Postby WiZ » Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:03 pm

Is it a walk/don't walk sign?
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Re: [IrishElk] The Happening

Postby android18 » Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:06 pm

The fact this person is female relevant? Does Floyd appear to sexually assault her in some way? Is the person disabled? Do they know Floyd?
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Re: [IrishElk] The Happening

Postby irishelk » Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:18 pm

wolfier

Was the purpose of the sign relevant to height of people? No.


WiZ

Is it a walk/don't walk sign? No.


android18

The fact this person is female relevant? Yes--a man is possible but a woman is more likely. Does Floyd appear to sexually assault her in some way? I'll say no, though something a little unsavory is going on. He's not attacking or appearing to attack her in anyway.
Is the person disabled? No/irr. Do they know Floyd? No.
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Re: [IrishElk] The Happening

Postby android18 » Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:19 pm

Does her harass her? Like does he chase her down the street? Does he mistake her for a man? And hits her? Grapples her?
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Re: [IrishElk] The Happening

Postby irishelk » Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:21 pm

android18

Sorry, I edited to clarify my answer after you posted.

Does her harass her? I'd say yes. Like does he chase her down the street? Does he mistake her for a man? And hits her? Grapples her? No to rest.
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Postby android18 » Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:26 pm

Taking photos of her? Watching her? Does he speak to her? Interact with her at all?
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Re: [IrishElk] The Happening

Postby irishelk » Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:28 pm

android18

Taking photos of her? No. Watching her? Possibly briefly. Does he speak to her? Yes. Interact with her at all? Yes--exact words not relevant, just his intent.
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Re: [IrishElk] The Happening

Postby android18 » Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:33 pm

Does he use inappropriate language towards her? Swearing? Insults? Does he shout at her? Is this the illegal act he commits?
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Re: [IrishElk] The Happening

Postby trebor » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:25 am

Does he mistake her for a prostitute? And attempt to acquire her services? Is it a bus stop sign?
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Re: [IrishElk] The Happening

Postby irishelk » Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:31 am

android18

Does he use inappropriate language towards her? In a sense... Swearing? Insults? Does he shout at her? Is this the illegal act he commits?


trebor

Does he mistake her for a prostitute? And attempt to acquire her services? Is it a bus stop sign? That's a bingo!

Nice job everyone, and android18 and trebor for finally putting it to rest!



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Because a gardener took some much-needed vacation time, a tree grows over the fence, and a branch completely covers the bus stop sign on the adjacent sidewalk. People still stand here to catch the bus, of course, and one day a chic young lady is waiting there when Floyd pulls up. Floyd is in the market for some negotiable companionship, and sees what he thinks is a sex worker standing idle on the corner, "open for business" as it were.

He makes a proposition, and the young woman is quick to disabuse him of his misconceptions.
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Re: [IrishElk] The Happening {TRIMMED}

Postby trebor » Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:27 pm

This was a fun one. Good puzzle.
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Re: [IrishElk] The Happening {TRIMMED}

Postby wolfier » Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:21 pm

yup it is a great one
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Re: [IrishElk] The Happening {TRIMMED}

Postby irishelk » Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:55 pm

Thank you!
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