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[WiZ] One at a time, please #2

Postby WiZ » Mon May 28, 2018 12:52 am

Hi, guys.

I'm going to take another crack at the 'one-at-a-time' format, as this is a puzzle which is elegant, but quite simple. The rules are: you may ask only one question at a time. However, you are allowed to present multiple variations of the same question, e.g. 'Is Dave Steve's Father? Son? Friend? Dog? Endocrinologist?'. You may invoke LTPF lists as well, although I don't believe it will help you much here.


A young man tears the label off two small liqueur bottles and fills them with sand. He then gives them to his friend as a wedding present. His friend is moved to tears by the thoughtfulness of this gift. Why?
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Postby invisiblemimsy » Mon May 28, 2018 1:40 am

Do the two bottles represent the friend and his/her partner?
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Postby WiZ » Mon May 28, 2018 1:43 am

Do the two bottles represent the friend and his/her partner? Yope
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Postby Earnest » Mon May 28, 2018 6:31 am

Was the sand meant to be thrown off the bottles once they've been received by the friend?
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Postby GalFisk » Mon May 28, 2018 9:31 am

Is the sand from a special place? A beach? Somewhere significant to the couple? A factory? A sand pit? An electric fuse? Some industrial process that uses sand? Some process that creates sand (such as grinding/sculpting/engraving/crushing rock)? A mine? A civil engineering project, such as a dam or tunnel? A geologically relevant place? Space? The moon? Pulverized or microscopic fossils?
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Postby Zanreo » Mon May 28, 2018 9:32 am

Are the two bottles different liqueurs?
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Postby peter365 » Mon May 28, 2018 10:39 am

Have the friends shared a traumatic experience?
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Postby WiZ » Mon May 28, 2018 8:29 pm

Earnest

Was the sand meant to be thrown off the bottles once they've been received by the friend? no

GalFisk

Is the sand from a special place? yes A beach? yes Somewhere significant to the couple? yes A factory? A sand pit? An electric fuse? Some industrial process that uses sand? Some process that creates sand (such as grinding/sculpting/engraving/crushing rock)? A mine? A civil engineering project, such as a dam or tunnel? A geologically relevant place? Space? The moon? Pulverized or microscopic fossils? no to rest

Zanreo

Are the two bottles different liqueurs? not relevantly

Peter

Have the friends shared a traumatic experience? no
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Postby GalFisk » Mon May 28, 2018 8:50 pm

Significance: where they first met? Fell in love? Kissed? Got engaged? Travelled together? Had a happy experience? Had a sad experience? Had a very significant experience? Had a large number of experiences? Lived? Worked? Swam? Got in trouble? Got rescued? Dreamed of going? Never could go? Want to go? Are planning to go?
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Postby Earnest » Tue May 29, 2018 5:36 am

Had the sand a particular charachteristic (color/shape/others) which let the couple immediately recognize it as part of their lives?
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Postby peter365 » Tue May 29, 2018 7:18 am

Would this puzzle work if he'd filled two coke bottles? larger liquer bottles? two matchboxes?
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Postby invisiblemimsy » Tue May 29, 2018 1:01 pm

Did either bottle or both bottles represent the young man, his friend, or the friend's fiance(é)?
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Postby Balin » Tue May 29, 2018 1:04 pm

Is the brand or flavor of liqueur the bottles once held relevant?
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Postby WiZ » Tue May 29, 2018 8:42 pm

GalFisk

Significance: where they first met? Fell in love? Kissed? Got engaged? Travelled together? no to these Had a happy experience? yes Had a sad experience? no Had a very significant experience? yes Had a large number of experiences? no Lived? Worked? Swam? Got in trouble? Got rescued? Dreamed of going? Never could go? Want to go? Are planning to go? no to these

Earnest

Had the sand a particular charachteristic (color yes to this/shape/others) which let the couple immediately recognize it as part of their lives?

Balin

Is the brand or flavor of liqueur the bottles once held relevant? no

Peter

Would this puzzle work if he'd filled two coke bottles? larger liquer bottles? two matchboxes? Yes to all (although they'd be bulkier or less visible)

InvisibleMimsy

Did either bottle or both bottles represent the young man yes, his friend no, or the friend's fiance(é)? yes (gender irrel)
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Postby Enjay » Tue May 29, 2018 9:19 pm

Is the sand black? White? Sand-coloured (yellow/brown)? Blue? Green? Red? Pink? Multicoloured? A natural colour? Dyed?
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Postby Earnest » Wed May 30, 2018 3:13 am

Had he not said where the sand came from, would they (the friend and the future wife) have recognized it a part from its color? (e.g. there was a picture of them on that beach/the picture was reproduced on the cake/they had a special memory of that beach, memory which was somehow "reproduced" at their wedding)
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Postby LemonCurry » Wed May 30, 2018 9:57 am

Was the sand in both bottles the same?
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Postby WiZ » Mon Jun 04, 2018 8:38 pm

Enjay

Is the sand black? White? no to both Sand-coloured This seems logically inevitable (yellow/brown)? Blue? Green? Red? no to these Pink? yes Multicoloured? no A natural colour? yes Dyed? no

Earnest

Had he not said where the sand came from, would they (the friend and the future wife) have recognized it a part from its color? yes, most probably (e.g. there was a picture of them on that beach yes/the picture was reproduced on the cake no/they had a special memory of that beach yes, memory which was somehow "reproduced" at their wedding) no to 'reproduced'

LemonCurry

Was the sand in both bottles the same? yes
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Postby peter365 » Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:36 pm

Is the sand in the hourglass from the Wizard of Oz relevant (a nod to your current and previous usernames!)?
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Postby WiZ » Wed Jun 06, 2018 8:57 pm

Is the sand in the hourglass from the Wizard of Oz relevant no (a nod to your current and previous usernames!)? Something something trainspotter's wives
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Postby wolfier » Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:44 pm

is the sand actually from the beach where the happy event took place, or is it "replica" sand?
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Postby WiZ » Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:58 pm

is the sand actually from the beach where the happy event took place yes, good question, or is it "replica" sand? no
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Postby Zanreo » Wed Jun 06, 2018 10:02 pm

Did he travel to this place just/mainly to get the sand to put into the bottles?
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Postby WiZ » Wed Jun 06, 2018 10:17 pm

Did he travel to this place just/mainly to get the sand to put into the bottles? no, another good question
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Postby wolfier » Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:56 am

had that happy event not taken place, would the couple still know each other? getting married? alive?
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Postby WiZ » Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:59 am

had that happy event not taken place, would the couple still know each other? yes getting married? they would not be married if the happy event had taken place alive? yes
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Postby wolfier » Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:02 am

you mean "had not taken place"?

did the happy event last for minutes? seconds? hours? days? longer?
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Postby WiZ » Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:06 am

you mean "had not taken place"? Oops, I did mean that. Excuse me while I proofread everything I've written for the last 6 hours or so.

did the happy event last for minutes? seconds? hours? this days? longer?
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Postby wolfier » Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:53 am

childbirth relevant? they did not travel there, does it mean they live close to the beach? or they all once lived there and then moved away? relevant?

(extra question removed)
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Postby WiZ » Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:59 am

childbirth relevant? no they did not travel there FA , does it mean they live close to the beach? no or they all once lived there and then moved away? no relevant? Difficult to answer in light of the FA
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Postby wolfier » Thu Jun 07, 2018 3:03 am

relationship between the young man and his friend's fiancé - family/relative?
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Postby WiZ » Thu Jun 07, 2018 3:06 am

relationship between the young man and his friend's fiancé - family/relative? no to both; he has no relevant relationship with his friend's partner
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Postby wolfier » Thu Jun 07, 2018 3:09 am

was the happy event another wedding?
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Postby WiZ » Thu Jun 07, 2018 3:14 am

was the happy event another wedding? no
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Postby Earnest » Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:03 am

WAG --> did they (friend and couple) find themselves in that same beach where it was forbidden to take the sand? Are rings relevant?
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Postby GalFisk » Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:17 pm

Did the happy event involve: just them? Their friends? Family? Strangers? People with a certain interest? Hobby? Profession? Tourists? Everyone present at the beach? Everyone near the beach? Everyone within a narrow band spanning across the globe? (Yes, I'm sneakily asking about a solar eclipse while technically staying within the rules.)
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Postby wolfier » Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:17 pm

Was a promise involved? A promise like "we'll return to the place with this exact sand to get married" but they couldn't, so the friend helped make it happen by producing the sand?
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Postby WiZ » Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:04 pm

Earnest

WAG --> did they (friend and couple) find themselves in that same beach yes where it was forbidden to take the sand? no Are rings relevant? yesish!

GalFisk

Did the happy event involve: just them? Their friends? Family? All of these Strangers? no People with a certain interest? Hobby? Profession? Not relevantly to all Tourists? no Everyone present at the beach? yes, in the vicinity Everyone near the beach? no Everyone within a narrow band spanning across the globe? no (Yes, I'm sneakily asking about a solar eclipse while technically staying within the rules.) Gotcha. Still no :P

Wolfier

Was a promise involved? Yes A promise like "we'll return to the place with this exact sand to get married" but they couldn't, so the friend helped make it happen by producing the sand? This is pretty darn close, but the solution is a little less complicated. Think about timeframes.
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Postby wolfier » Thu Jun 07, 2018 10:47 pm

is anything relevant being dug out or buried in the sand, like a ring?
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Postby WiZ » Thu Jun 07, 2018 11:23 pm

is anything relevant being dug out or buried in the sand, like a ring? No - there is nothing in the sand, but ORT
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Postby wolfier » Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:06 am

PM sent.
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Postby WiZ » Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:22 am

I'll treat the message as a single guess, and, therefore, question (i.e. 'is this the answer?')

The happy memory happened seconds ago which was the exchange of their vows, and they're all at the same beach. The friends in question are the groom and his best man. All correct so far (although more likely minutes rather than seconds for the timeframe)
The bottles of sand are for their keeping as a memento of the wedding, yes to be used in place of rings, which was either never bought or have been lost. no - assume rings were exchanged conventionally
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Postby wolfier » Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:27 am

These bottles therefore represent the 2 most important persons in the life of the groom.
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Postby WiZ » Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:29 am

These bottles therefore represent the 2 most important persons in the life of the groom. No - they invoke the bride and the groom. And there is a particular significance to the sand.
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Postby wolfier » Fri Jun 08, 2018 3:07 am

Are the sand in the bottles gathered from the beach at random, or do they need to fit a certain criteria?
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Postby WiZ » Fri Jun 08, 2018 3:17 am

Are the sand in the bottles gathered from the beach at random no!, or do they need to fit a certain criteria? yes; one very specific criterion
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Postby Earnest » Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:40 am

Did she reply "yes" to him relevantly brought on his knees by writing the answer on the sand? With shelves? By "dugging" the sand? In a particular way?
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Postby GalFisk » Fri Jun 08, 2018 10:15 am

Did they shed tears into the sand? Stand on the sand? Pour the sand from shoes or clothing? Pour liquid into the sand? Perform a specific marriage ritual?
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Postby wolfier » Fri Jun 08, 2018 11:48 pm

does the sand from either of these bottles have a different appearance from sand gathered at random on the same beach?
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Postby WiZ » Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:28 pm

Earnest

Did she reply "yes" to him relevantly brought on his knees by writing the answer on the sand? no With shelves? no By "dugging" the sand? no In a particular way? no

GalFisk

Did they shed tears into the sand? Quite possibly, but not relevant Stand on the sand? yes! Pour the sand from shoes or clothing? no Pour liquid into the sand? no (tears notwithstanding) Perform a specific marriage ritual? yes!

Wolfier

does the sand from either of these bottles have a different appearance from sand gathered at random on the same beach? No - the sand is identical in appearance - but had been chosen from that specific spot, because, as GalFisk has ascertained, they stood on the sand and performed a specific marriage ritual.

Which, I think, warrants a


***** SPOILER *****

The bride and groom had travelled to a beautiful pink-sand beach for their wedding ceremony. After they had walked back down the aisle as a married couple, the best man had a brainwave; he grabbed the first two small empty vessels he could find, and filled them with the very sand the bride and groom (respectively) had been standing on when they exchanged their vows!

Now they could keep with them forever the very ground on which they became husband and wife (or non-heteronormative equivalent)


Thank you all for playing, and congratulations GalFisk and Wolfier on the solution. This lasted a bit longer than I thought it might, but I hope the added challenge of asking one question at a time helped hone your questioning skills. Let me know.
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Re: [WiZ] One at a time, please #2 [MARRIED OFF]

Postby invisiblemimsy » Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:25 pm

This puzzle is excellent. I think I may have to shed a tear or two.
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Re: [WiZ] One at a time, please #2 [MARRIED OFF]

Postby WiZ » Mon Jun 11, 2018 9:04 pm

With all this crime and death in Lateralia, it's nice to occasionally have something heartwarming.
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