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[WiZ] A New Zealand Puzzle

Postby WiZ » Mon Jun 04, 2018 8:47 pm

Why was a serious proposal made to erect, on a prominent hill overlooking Wellington Airport, a four-metre high sculpture depicting rubbish?

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Re: [WiZ] A New Zealand Puzzle

Postby Westing1992 » Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:09 am

Rubbish=trash? A garbage can, perhaps?
Is it relevant that this is near an airport?
Was it to make the hill taller? (I'm thinking of a similar situation from the movie "The Englishman Who Went Up a Hill but Came Down a Mountain", though that was in Wales.)
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Re: [WiZ] A New Zealand Puzzle

Postby GalFisk » Tue Jun 05, 2018 5:35 am

Any rubbish? Some specific rubbish? Some famous rubbish? Is a famous event relevant? Famous person? Pollution relevant? The Electron rocket? Relevant that it's near an airport? This particular airport? Is it meant to be seen from the air? From the airport? By people traveling to or from the airport?
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Re: [WiZ] A New Zealand Puzzle

Postby Earnest » Tue Jun 05, 2018 6:55 am

Relevant that it is near the airport and not somewhere else? That it was on a hill? Relevant where the airport is located? Relevant that it is 4 meters of height? Is there something else relevantly on the hill? Would the sculpture act as an attraction? Is it made for other purposes? Relevant the material with which the sculpture is made? Is it made of recycled materials? Would it be considered an original art work? The reproduction of someone else's art work? An art work in general repredenting common rubbish? Would the sculpture be permanent? Would the sculpture represent just rubbish? Is it to attract certain types of animals?...WAG (a stupid one) was it to attract seagulls or other types of birds whose presence would have been otherwise dangerous in an airport?

Rubbish = generic rubbish? Cans? Plastic? Food? Technological rubbish? Other types? Relevant?
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Re: [WiZ] A New Zealand Puzzle

Postby WiZ » Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:07 pm

Westing

Rubbish=trash? yes A garbage can, perhaps? but no
Is it relevant that this is near an airport? yesish
Was it to make the hill taller? no (I'm thinking of a similar situation from the movie "The Englishman Who Went Up a Hill but Came Down a Mountain", though that was in Wales.)

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Any rubbish? no Some specific rubbish? yes Some famous rubbish? yes Is a famous event relevant? no Famous person? no Pollution relevant? no The Electron rocket? no Relevant that it's near an airport? yesish This particular airport? yes Is it meant to be seen from the air? yes From the airport? yes By people traveling to or from the airport? Yes, most importantly

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Relevant that it is near the airport and not somewhere else? Yesish: it could be used to greatest effect here That it was on a hill? only for prominence Relevant where the airport is located? only that it's near the hill :) Relevant that it is 4 meters of height? no Is there something else relevantly on the hill? no Would the sculpture act as an attraction? yes Is it made for other purposes? no Relevant the material with which the sculpture is made? no Is it made of recycled materials? no Would it be considered an original art work? yes The reproduction of someone else's art work? no An art work in general repredenting common rubbish? yes, a specific kind of common rubbish Would the sculpture be permanent? yes Would the sculpture represent just rubbish? yes (at face value) Is it to attract certain types of animals?... no WAG (a stupid one) was it to attract seagulls or other types of birds whose presence would have been otherwise dangerous in an airport? no - I'm not sure they'd be fooled by a sculpture that didn't smell at all like genuine rubbish

Rubbish = generic rubbish? no - a specific kind Cans? Plastic? Food? no to these Technological rubbish? arguably Other types? yes, unless we're calling it 'technological' Relevant? yes
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Re: [WiZ] A New Zealand Puzzle

Postby GalFisk » Wed Jun 06, 2018 6:19 am

Rubbish: concrete? Glass? Metal? Brick? Rock? Bits of a demolished structure? Leftovers from an accident or disaster? Something signifying progress? Wealth? History? Something buried by water?
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Re: [WiZ] A New Zealand Puzzle

Postby WiZ » Wed Jun 06, 2018 8:59 pm

Rubbish: concrete? Glass? no Metal? Sometimes, in part Brick? Rock? Bits of a demolished structure? Leftovers from an accident or disaster? no to all Something signifying progress? Wealth? no to both History? not really Something buried by water? no, but ORT in an odd way
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Re: [WiZ] A New Zealand Puzzle

Postby Earnest » Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:16 am

Technological rubbish? arguably  = a decice? Part of it? Part of a pc? Part of a screen? Of a Tv? Of a light? Weapons? Vehicles? Part of a building?

Does it consist of many elements of the same type? Many elements of different type of rubbish? Just one element(e.g. a car/vehicle?) Can it be considered a scrap? Don't know why but it remembers me someothing I saw in Disneyland...it was a statue of mikey mouse on a broken airplane...I mean...technically a broken plane is rubbish...
Is "the lord of the ring" involved (sorry for stereotype)? E.g. rubbish = the dismissed set? Part of it?...

is the statue the reproduction of a specific rubbish? Or is it composed by the "actual rubbish" itself? (I mean by "what is considered rubbish) Does the rubbish worth millions? Or is worthless? Movies relevant? Did what is considered rubbish, become such in a relevant way? Had it always seen as rubbish? Did it become famous as rubbish?
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Re: [WiZ] A New Zealand Puzzle

Postby GalFisk » Thu Jun 07, 2018 10:12 am

Something that contained water? Floated on water? An old turbine?
Industrial towns, especially mining and steelworking towns, here in Sweden often display very old industrial equipment publicly. Giant wheels, steam hammers and such. Is something like this relevant?
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Re: [WiZ] A New Zealand Puzzle

Postby WiZ » Thu Jun 07, 2018 8:55 pm

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Technological rubbish? arguably = a decice? yesish Part of it? no Part of a pc? no Part of a screen? no Of a Tv? no Of a light? no Weapons? no Vehicles? no Part of a building? no

Does it consist of many elements of the same type? yes Many elements of different type of rubbish? no Just one element yes (e.g. a car/vehicle? but neither of these) Can it be considered a scrap? yes Don't know why but it remembers me someothing I saw in Disneyland...it was a statue of mikey mouse on a broken airplane...I mean...technically a broken plane is rubbish... True. It is not a sculpture of a plane, however.
Is "the lord of the ring" involved not this time (sorry for stereotype)? It's a far more pleasant stereotype than any of the ones involving sheep E.g. rubbish = the dismissed set? Part of it?... no, although I like this idea

is the statue the reproduction of a specific rubbish? yes Or is it composed by the "actual rubbish" itself? no (I mean by "what is considered rubbish) Does the rubbish worth millions? no Or is worthless? yes Movies relevant? no Did what is considered rubbish, become such in a relevant way? yes Had it always seen as rubbish? yes Did it become famous as rubbish? yes

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Something that contained water? Floated on water? An old turbine? no to all, but keep going
Industrial towns, especially mining and steelworking towns, here in Sweden often display very old industrial equipment publicly. Giant wheels, steam hammers and such. Is something like this relevant? Ah, yes. We do the same in forestry and mining towns. However, this situation is a bit more unique...
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Re: [WiZ] A New Zealand Puzzle

Postby GalFisk » Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:19 pm

Something related to: rain? Streams? Rivers? Boats? The ocean? Fish? Water treatment? Wastewater? Drought? Watering? Agriculture? Bathing? Water as a treatment or cure? Some other liquid?
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Re: [WiZ] A New Zealand Puzzle

Postby irishelk » Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:43 pm

Are visitors to the airport meant to see this: because it is culturally significant? Because it relates to airplanes? Maybe the history of aviation? Or this specific airport? Does it suggest a message or moral to passersby? If so, about minimizing waste? About some aspect of airport decorum? Or safety?
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Re: [WiZ] A New Zealand Puzzle

Postby WiZ » Sun Jun 10, 2018 10:43 pm

GalFisk

Something related to: rain? yes! Streams? Rivers? Boats? The ocean? Fish? Water treatment? Wastewater? Drought? Watering? Agriculture? Bathing? Water as a treatment or cure? Some other liquid? no to rest

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Are visitors to the airport meant to see this: yes because it is culturally significant? yes Because it relates to airplanes? Maybe the history of aviation? Or this specific airport? no to rest Does it suggest a message or moral to passersby? arguably a warning, of sorts If so, about minimizing waste? About some aspect of airport decorum? no to both Or safety? noish
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Re: [WiZ] A New Zealand Puzzle

Postby Earnest » Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:43 am

Is the rubbish connected to rain? Umbrella? Bolts relevant? Mary Poppins relevant?

Connection of rubbish with rain = the objects which became rubbish are useful when it rains? If so the pipe used outside houses to avoid flows inside houses? (Don't know the name in english), umbrella? Some sort of shelter from rain? The objects which became rubbish, became such due to the rain?
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Re: [WiZ] A New Zealand Puzzle

Postby GalFisk » Mon Jun 11, 2018 9:05 am

Is it rubbish because it's: destroyed? Used up? Fake? No longer working? No longer useful? Worn out? Burnt? Rusted/corroded to uselessness? Acid rain relevant? Rainmaking? Rainwater? Erosion? Evaporation? Clouds?
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Re: [WiZ] A New Zealand Puzzle

Postby WiZ » Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:48 pm

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Is the rubbish connected to rain? Umbrella? yes to both Bolts relevant? no Mary Poppins relevant? not this time :)

Connection of rubbish with rain = the objects which became rubbish are useful when it rains? yes, when they are functioning If so the pipe used outside houses to avoid flows inside houses? (Don't know the name in english) 'Drainpipes', and no, umbrella? yes Some sort of shelter from rain? yes (an umbrella :P) The objects which became rubbish, became such due to the rain? no, good question

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Is it rubbish because it's: destroyed? yes Used up? Fake? no to both No longer working? No longer useful? yes to both Worn out? Burnt? Rusted/corroded to uselessness? no to all Acid rain relevant? no Rainmaking? no Rainwater? no (if you're thinking in terms of flooding/fluvial transportation) Erosion? Evaporation? Clouds? no to all
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Re: [WiZ] A New Zealand Puzzle

Postby Earnest » Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:59 am

Where those specific umbrella used as shelter from rain? As barricades? Was the cause of them becoming rubbish a weapon? Usage? Relevant how they would have been piled? Are them a symbol? Did they belong to someone relevantly? To people who died? To people protesting? Were the umbrella meant to depict just a pile of umbrella? Or are they piled in order to form a specific figure/shape?
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Re: [WiZ] A New Zealand Puzzle

Postby GalFisk » Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:22 am

Did the rubbish consist of one umbrella? Many umbrellas? Was it/were they destroyed by: wind? Age? Shoddy construction? Use? Abuse? Being taken by the wind?
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