[android18] Occupational hazard

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[android18] Occupational hazard

Postby android18 » Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:17 pm

Four men went to work and died. None of them had any sign of illness or injury, apart from one.


Could be a quick one, please PM if this all seems familiar.
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Re: [android18] Occupational hazard

Postby irishelk » Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:26 pm

Not ringing any bells yet, but I'll refrain if it does.

Did only one show signs of illness/injury...before death? After? Did all appear healthy when they went to work? Were all healthy when they went to work?

Did they die of an infection of any kind? Did the one cause the death of the other three? Did he cause his own death? Did they all die of the same thing?

Is their profession relevant? Is it usually considered a dangerous job?
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Re: [android18] Occupational hazard

Postby android18 » Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:30 pm

Not ringing any bells yet, but I'll refrain if it does. Thanks :)

Did only one show signs of illness/injury...before death?No After?Yes to injury Did all appear healthy when they went to work?Yes Were all healthy when they went to work?Yes

Did they die of an infection of any kind?No Did the one cause the death of the other three?Noish, explore Did he cause his own death?See previous Did they all die of the same thing?Yes

Is their profession relevant?Yes Is it usually considered a dangerous job?Yes
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Re: [android18] Occupational hazard

Postby wolfier » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:55 am

were they firefighters? were they vaporised or burnt to ashes? did they die of gas poisoning? asphyxiation?
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Re: [android18] Occupational hazard

Postby android18 » Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:04 am

were they firefighters? were they vaporised or burnt to ashes? did they die of gas poisoning? asphyxiation? None of these
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Re: [android18] Occupational hazard

Postby wolfier » Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:23 pm

So 3 out of 4 who died of the same reason on the job did not show injury or illness. Were the bodies of the 3 even available? (e.g. if they were divers and got eaten whole by sharks, or astronauts who got lost in space, they wouldn't show injury or illness because nobody could see them!). On or off the mark?
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Re: [android18] Occupational hazard

Postby android18 » Wed Jul 18, 2018 3:28 pm

So 3 out of 4 who died of the same reason on the job did not show injury or illness. Correct Were the bodies of the 3 even available? (e.g. if they were divers and got eaten whole by sharks, or astronauts who got lost in space, they wouldn't show injury or illness because nobody could see them!). On or off the mark? Good guess, but no
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Re: [android18] Occupational hazard

Postby irishelk » Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:12 pm

Are the apparent injuries on the one man the cause of his death? Or caused by the same thing that caused the deaths (e.g., they all die in a fire, but he is directly burned by it)? Did he sustain injury right before death? Right after? While trying to save them? When people die by this cause are there usually injuries?

Are his injuries possibly fake, i.e. make-up or special effects?

Are their deaths an accident? Are any other people involved? Any animals?
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Re: [android18] Occupational hazard

Postby android18 » Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:33 pm

Are the apparent injuries on the one man the cause of his death? No Or caused by the same thing that caused the deaths (e.g., they all die in a fire, but he is directly burned by it)? Yes Did he sustain injury right before death? Right after? This While trying to save them? When people die by this cause are there usually injuries? Gonna say probably not, but it depends on various factors.

Are his injuries possibly fake, i.e. make-up or special effects? No

Are their deaths an accident? Yes Are any other people involved? Yes Any animals? No
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Re: [android18] Occupational hazard

Postby wolfier » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:21 pm

on the cause of the deaths - were there internal injuries? any of them intoxicated before dying? were they in agony before dying? aware that they were dying? were the deaths sudden or did it take a while?

have they taken precauctions? if so, did the precautionary measure not work? equipment malfunction involved? or errors made by others that somehow disabled the said measure?
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Re: [android18] Occupational hazard

Postby GalFisk » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:59 pm

Did they die from suffocation? Poisoning? Electrocution? Radiation? Did the three die when trying to rescue the one? Ammonia involved? Nitrogen? A noble gas?
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Re: [android18] Occupational hazard

Postby android18 » Thu Jul 19, 2018 3:27 pm

wolfier

on the cause of the deaths - were there internal injuries? Yes any of them intoxicated before dying? No were they in agony before dying? Noaware that they were dying? No were the deaths sudden This or did it take a while?

have they taken precauctions? They were meant to if so, did the precautionary measure not work? equipment malfunction involved? A bit of this or errors made by others that somehow disabled the said measure? But mainly this

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Did they die from suffocation? Poisoning? Electrocution? Radiation? Did the three die when trying to rescue the one? Ammonia involved? Nitrogen? A noble gas? No to all
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Re: [android18] Occupational hazard

Postby wolfier » Thu Jul 19, 2018 3:33 pm

did they fall to their deaths? to a body of water?
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Re: [android18] Occupational hazard

Postby android18 » Thu Jul 19, 2018 3:37 pm

did they fall to their deaths? to a body of water? No to both
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Re: [android18] Occupational hazard

Postby Earnest » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:08 pm

Are they astronauts?

Did the two without injuries die because they were not aware of what killed them (e.g. a gas) and the third one instead seeing the other two died, tried to prevent him to die injuring himself?

Did they die in a certain order? If so, the one with injuries died first? Last? In the middle? Relevant? Were they sub? Did they fall? Did they drawn? Did they have some device inside their body (e.g. pacemaker...)?

None of them had any sign of illness or injury...I'm assuming that their bodies were all found and were all intact right? (In contrast of them being died in an explosion for instance...)

Their work = a modern one? Exposed to risk? Soldiers? Miners? Violence involved? Height? Risk of drawing? Weapons involved? Other sources of risks? Contact with animals? Did they die frozen?

WAG did they die frozen and from hunger and the latter trued to eat himself? Or one of them, the last one to die tried to eat one of the dead mates?
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Re: [android18] Occupational hazard

Postby wolfier » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:27 pm

were explosions of any kind involved? shockwaves? change in air or water pressure? sudden deceleration? change in air or fluid temperature?
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Re: [android18] Occupational hazard

Postby android18 » Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:25 pm

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Are they astronauts? No

Did the two without injuries die because they were not aware of what killed them (e.g. a gas) and the third one instead seeing the other two died, tried to prevent him to die injuring himself? No, although it is true that all four were not aware of their cause of death...

Did they die in a certain order? No If so, the one with injuries died first? Last? In the middle? Relevant? Were they sub? Did they fall? Did they drawn? Did they have some device inside their body (e.g. pacemaker...)? No to all

None of them had any sign of illness or injury...I'm assuming that their bodies were all found and were all intact right? (In contrast of them being died in an explosion for instance...) Nope...

Their work = a modern one? Relatively Exposed to risk? Yes Soldiers? Miners? This is closest Violence involved? Height? Risk of drawing? Weapons involved? Other sources of risks? Also this Contact with animals? Did they die frozen?

WAG did they die frozen and from hunger and the latter trued to eat himself? Or one of them, the last one to die tried to eat one of the dead mates? No to both

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were explosions of any kind involved? shockwaves? change in air Yes, this! or water pressure? sudden deceleration? change in air or fluid temperature?
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Re: [android18] Occupational hazard

Postby wolfier » Fri Jul 20, 2018 2:24 am

are they divers and their tanks depressurised too quickly during an ascend?
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Re: [android18] Occupational hazard

Postby android18 » Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:18 am

are they divers Yes... and their tanks depressurised too quickly during an ascend? ...but not this
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Re: [android18] Occupational hazard

Postby wolfier » Fri Jul 20, 2018 1:01 pm

is the equipment that malfunctioned their tanks? some underwater vessel? submarine involved?
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Re: [android18] Occupational hazard

Postby android18 » Fri Jul 20, 2018 2:48 pm

is the equipment that malfunctioned their tanks? No some underwater vessel? Yes submarine involved? No
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Re: [android18] Occupational hazard

Postby trebor » Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:47 pm

So the one who died, his body was in pieces? Were the others?

Relevant what they were doing underwater? Rescuing someone/something? Researching a wreck? Studying marine life? Constructing something? (A tunnel?)
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Re: [android18] Occupational hazard

Postby android18 » Fri Jul 20, 2018 5:33 pm

So the one who died, his body was in pieces? Yes Were the others? No

Relevant what they were doing underwater? Yes, but beware of FA Rescuing someone/something? Researching a wreck? Studying marine life? Constructing something? (A tunnel?) No to rest
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Re: [android18] Occupational hazard

Postby GalFisk » Fri Jul 20, 2018 5:59 pm

Did they die underwater? In a pressure chamber? In a diving bell? Sub? Did they die from a rise in pressure? A loss of pressure? A loss of breathing gas? Did all die at the same time? Did they work in the oil industry? Relevant?
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Re: [android18] Occupational hazard

Postby wolfier » Fri Jul 20, 2018 6:09 pm

did the victim whose body broke into pieces, equalised the pressure (by breaking up) so the bodies of others didn't break up? but it's too late due to internal injuries they suffered, so they all died anyway?
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Re: [android18] Occupational hazard

Postby trebor » Fri Jul 20, 2018 6:38 pm

Sorry, I meant “the one who was injured”. I trust the answer is still the same.

Relevant what body of water they were in? Was it a natural one? Man-made?

Just to challenge the assumption, is it correct that these people were not divers in the sense of pools and diving boards?
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Re: [android18] Occupational hazard

Postby android18 » Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:53 am

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Did they die underwater? No In a pressure chamber? Yes! In a diving bell? No, but... Sub? Did they die from a rise in pressure? No A loss of pressure? This A loss of breathing gas? No Did all die at the same time? Yes Did they work in the oil industry? Yes! Relevant? Yes


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did the victim whose body broke into pieces, equalised the pressure (by breaking up) so the bodies of others didn't break up? No but it's too late due to internal injuries they suffered, so they all died anyway? No


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Sorry, I meant “the one who was injured”. I trust the answer is still the same. Yes

Relevant what body of water they were in? Partially, it's not necessary to know the specific body of water in solving the puzzle Was it a natural one? This Man-made?

Just to challenge the assumption, is it correct that these people were not divers in the sense of pools and diving boards? Correct
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Re: [android18] Occupational hazard

Postby wolfier » Tue Jul 24, 2018 4:31 pm

did the diver who ended up in pieces due to an internal explosion? have relevantly gone through a moving propeller?
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Re: [android18] Occupational hazard

Postby android18 » Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:14 am

did the diver who ended up in pieces due to an internal explosion? Yope have relevantly gone through a moving propeller? No, but very OTRT
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Re: [android18] Occupational hazard

Postby wolfier » Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:38 am

not a propeller but the moving exhaust fan / compressor that was responsible for the chamber's losing air?
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Re: [android18] Occupational hazard

Postby android18 » Wed Jul 25, 2018 12:17 pm

not a propeller but the moving exhaust fan / compressor that was responsible for the chamber's losing air? No
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Re: [android18] Occupational hazard

Postby wolfier » Fri Aug 03, 2018 4:09 am

Yuck, I'm sure I remember reading this a loooong time ago now the oil industry is mentioned. It might even be related to a very old puzzle on this forum...staying out and PM sent.
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Re: [android18] Occupational hazard

Postby android18 » Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:35 pm

Yuck, I'm sure I remember reading this a loooong time ago now the oil industry is mentioned. It might even be related to a very old puzzle on this forum...staying out and PM sent. Correct!
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Re: [android18] Occupational hazard

Postby irishelk » Sat Aug 11, 2018 10:30 pm

I don't really know anything about underwater oil drilling, but are these men in a pressurized chamber underwater to match the pressure outside? Maybe they have to dive outside?

If so, did they all die from depressurization of the chamber they were in? (Or overpressurization--I forget how that works XD)? Due to a mistake by one of them? By the one with post-mortem injuries? By someone outside the chamber?

Were the injuries caused by a piece of industrial equipment? By a more everyday appliance that they brought in the chamber with them? For the one with visible injuries, was there anything physically/medically different about him than the other three?
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Re: [android18] Occupational hazard

Postby android18 » Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:31 am

I don't really know anything about underwater oil drilling, but are these men in a pressurized chamber underwater to match the pressure outside? Not quite... Maybe they have to dive outside? They do, yes

If so, did they all die from depressurization of the chamber they were in? Yes (Or overpressurization--I forget how that works XD)? Due to a mistake by one of them? By the one with post-mortem injuries? By someone outside the chamber? This

Were the injuries caused by a piece of industrial equipment? DOYD of 'equipment' By a more everyday appliance Yes... that they brought in the chamber with them? ...but no For the one with visible injuries, was there anything physically/medically different about him than the other three? No
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Re: [android18] Occupational hazard

Postby GalFisk » Tue Aug 14, 2018 6:59 am

Were they in a hyperbaric (overpressure) chamber? Was it accidentally depressurized?
I know of a grisly accident where a door to such a chamber was opened (by mistake and bad safety interlocks), and one of the occupants was essentially disintegrated. Something like this relevant?
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Re: [android18] Occupational hazard

Postby android18 » Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:40 pm

Were they in a hyperbaric (overpressure) chamber? Was it accidentally depressurized?
I know of a grisly accident where a door to such a chamber was opened (by mistake and bad safety interlocks), and one of the occupants was essentially disintegrated. Something like this relevant? Absolutely


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