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[Balin] Literature presents

Postby Balin » Tue Jul 24, 2018 2:04 pm

Marilyn wakes up at 2 A.M. one morning and draws a bath. A few hours later, she makes an appointment, then goes shopping. Why?
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Re: [Balin] Literature presents

Postby wolfier » Tue Jul 24, 2018 2:06 pm

wait, what's so unusual about this? :p
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Postby Balin » Tue Jul 24, 2018 2:08 pm

wait, what's so unusual about this? :p Fair point.

***NOT A SPOILER***

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Postby Earnest » Tue Jul 24, 2018 2:26 pm

Time zones relevant? Hours later = more than 5 hours later? Were the shops opened?
She drew a bath and the made it?

Did she wake up(or was she woken up by someone?) just to make the appointment? Did she make it with someone relevant(work related appointment/appointment with a friend/appointment with a doctor...)? Through the phone? Face to face? Was it possible to make the appointment also later?
Is the fact of going shopping a consequence of having made the appointment?

Did she work during night? Had she gone bed from a long time before she woke? (E.g. at 10 p.m. of the day before or just an hour before/ half an hour before...) was she at home? In an hotel room? Others?
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Postby Balin » Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:03 pm

Time zones relevant? No later = more than 5 hours later? No more than five, all depending on... Were the shops opened? ...this, Yes
She drew a bath and the made it? Not sure what you mean by this

Did she wake up(or was she woken up by someone?) No but this could work just to make the appointment? Yes Did she make it with someone relevant(work related appointment/appointment with a friend/appointment with a doctor...)? Yes, with a doctor Through the phone? This Face to face? Was it possible to make the appointment also later? Yes
Is the fact of going shopping a consequence of having made the appointment? No, but it's not entirely unrelated

Did she work during night? No Had she gone bed from a long time before she woke? No/Irrel (E.g. at 10 p.m. of the day before or just an hour before/ half an hour before...)
was she at home? Yes, so No to rest In an hotel room? Others?
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Postby wolfier » Tue Jul 24, 2018 4:23 pm

Did she have to draw the bath at 2AM because she was expecting the water to be cut off later? if not, would any relevant change to the water occur before it is eventually used? would that water be later actually used for bathing (I guess not)? for drinking/cooking? for irrigation? for experimentation?
was exactly what she shopped related to the doctor appointment? to the bath drawing?
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Re: [Balin] Literature presents

Postby Earnest » Tue Jul 24, 2018 4:41 pm

Was she pregnant? Did the doctor suggest her to go shopping?
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Postby WiZ » Tue Jul 24, 2018 9:47 pm

Is she sick? Injured? Sleepwalking? Did she injure herself, or discover any illness, in the morning during the bath-drawing period?

Did she get into the bath after she drew it? Did a family member/someone in the house with her? Did she use the filled bath for some purpose other than bathing (accumulating clean water, washing a freshly-caught carp, preparing to re-tile/re-grout the bathroom)?
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Postby Balin » Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:37 pm

Did she have to draw the bath at 2AM because she was expecting the water to be cut off later? No if not, would any relevant change to the water occur before it is eventually used? No would that water be later actually used for bathing (I guess not)? Yes for drinking/cooking? for irrigation? for experimentation? No to rest
was exactly what she shopped related to the doctor appointment? Yes to the bath drawing? Indirectly

Was she pregnant? Did the doctor suggest her to go shopping? Neither

Is she sick? Injured? Sleepwalking? No to all Did she injure herself, or discover any illness, in the morning during the bath-drawing period? No

Did she get into the bath after she drew it? No, good q Did a family member/someone in the house with her? Yes (a family member who was in the house with her) Did she use the filled bath for some purpose other than bathing (accumulating clean water, washing a freshly-caught carp, preparing to re-tile/re-grout the bathroom)? No, the water was used just for bathing
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Postby wolfier » Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:15 pm

Was the doctor's appointment made by her for herself or for someone else? If for someone else, is it for the same family member who will use the bath?
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Postby Earnest » Thu Jul 26, 2018 5:35 pm

Did she make the appointment after the someone (her son/duaghter? Her husband? A friend? Someone injured/ ill?) drew the bath? Did she wake up spontaneously with an alarm(I mean did she program to wake up at 2 a.m.?)? Was the appointment programmed for hours later? Days later? Minutes later? Did the doctor come into her house? Did she go shopping after having seen the doctor? Was the appointment with the doctor taken in order the doctor vist/cure the someone? Can we assume a generic doctor? A doctor with experience (on the contrary for instance we have her son graduted 1 day ago in medicine)? Did she call the doctor usually at that time? Did the doctor expect to receive her call at that time? Was it the only call he expected to receive at that time? Was the doctor in an hospital? If so Had she been there before (hours/minutes before) ?

Was the someone sleeping as well? Did he wake at 2 a.m. too?
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Postby Balin » Fri Jul 27, 2018 6:22 pm

Was the doctor's appointment made by her for herself or for someone else? This (ish) If for someone else, is it for the same family member who will use the bath? No

Did she make the appointment after the someone (her son/duaghter? Her husband? A friend? Someone injured/ ill?) drew the bath? Yes, but note that while she ran the bath, it was her daughter who bathed Did she wake up spontaneously with an alarm(I mean did she program to wake up at 2 a.m.?)? No
Was the appointment programmed for hours later? This Days later? Minutes later?
Did the doctor come into her house? No Did she go shopping after having seen the doctor? No Was the appointment with the doctor taken in order the doctor vist/cure the someone? More "examine" than "cure"
Can we assume a generic doctor? No! A doctor with experience (on the contrary for instance we have her son graduted 1 day ago in medicine)? Yes, the doctor is experienced
Did she call the doctor usually at that time? Did the doctor expect to receive her call at that time? Was it the only call he expected to receive at that time? Was the doctor in an hospital? No to all these If so Had she been there before (hours/minutes before) ? Assume yes, but not hours or minutes before (assume months before)

Was the someone sleeping as well? Yes Did she wake at 2 a.m. too? Yes
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Postby wolfier » Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:28 pm

was her daughter handicapped in any way that makes it impossible for her to draw the bath on her own? in age? weight? height? relevant when exactly the bathing actually will take place? while the mother was still home? while she was away?
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Postby Earnest » Sat Jul 28, 2018 11:05 am

Doctor = dentist? Gynecologist? Others (may I invoke the list of specialists?)?


So she prepared a bath and her daughter did the bath while she was running it right? And the appointment was neither for her nor for the daughter right? Was it for someone who was going to born? Someone present in the hause when she took the appointment? Did she expect the doctor to answer her when she called him to take the appointment?(did she call the doctor with a phone? Text him? Was she in a relation with the doctor? Did she have confidence with the doctor?) Was her daughter a teen? Relevant?

To be sure: it was her the one calling the doctor right? Or viceversa? (The doctor called her at 2 a.m.?)

Was the water of the bath very hot? Very cold? Relevant? Normal? Was the bath prepared in order to attuate some symptoms? To alleviate pain? To prepare to something that was going to happen? Just to make a bath? To stimulate someone?
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Postby Balin » Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:18 pm

was her daughter handicapped in any way that makes it impossible for her to draw the bath on her own? See next in age? Yes weight? height? No to these
relevant when exactly the bathing actually will take place? Yes while the mother was still home? Yes while she was away? Thus no

Doctor = dentist? Gynecologist? Neither Others (may I invoke the list of specialists?)? It's a type of doctor that hasn't been mentioned, but for one very specific reason I'm not going to allow the LTPF list of specialized medical professionals

So she prepared a bath and her daughter did the bath while she was running it right? Yes, and she helped her daughter wash up And the appointment was neither for her nor for the daughter right? Correct
Was it for someone who was going to born? No, but OTRT, FA Someone present in the hause when she took the appointment? Yes, same FA
Did she expect the doctor to answer her when she called him to take the appointment? Yes (did she call the doctor with a phone? Yes Text him? No Was she in a relation with the doctor? No Did she have confidence with the doctor?) She knew the doctor was good at the profession, Yes
Was her daughter a teen? No Relevant? Not really

To be sure: it was her the one calling the doctor right? Correct Or viceversa? (The doctor called her at 2 a.m.?) Not this

Was the water of the bath very hot? Very cold? Relevant? Irrel Normal? Presumably
Was the bath prepared in order to attuate some symptoms? To alleviate pain? To prepare to something that was going to happen? To stimulate someone? No to these Just to make a bath? No, there's a specific reason
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Postby WiZ » Wed Aug 01, 2018 12:37 am

Was the doctor a paediatrician? A medical doctor? A specialist in a certain part of the anatomy? Someone with a special practical skill (e.g. anaesthetist)? Someone specialising in particular ailments that may affect multiple organs and body parts (oncologist, burns specialist)?
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Postby Earnest » Wed Aug 01, 2018 5:37 am

Is the doctor a forensic? Has a crime been committed? Did someone die? If so in the house? In an accident outside the house? Was someone found death? Autopsy relevant?

Was the reason why the daughter took a bath that she was dirty? If so, dirtied by blood? In a specific body part? Siamese twins relevant? Dead skin relevant? When in the bath did the mother wash up a certain body part of the daughter relevantly? If so may I invoke the list of body parts? All her body?
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Postby LemonCurry » Wed Aug 01, 2018 6:06 am

Did Marilyn not notice it was two at night? Did she think is was early morning, got into her morning routine, including bathing her baby daughter, and when she finally found out the actual time, thought she should see a doctor over this?
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Postby wolfier » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:21 am

Is her daughter alive? Does she suffer from any psychological disorder?
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Postby Balin » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:11 pm

Was the doctor a paediatrician? A medical doctor? Yes, of a kind A specialist in a certain part of the anatomy? Someone with a special practical skill (e.g. anaesthetist)? Someone specialising in particular ailments that may affect multiple organs and body parts (oncologist, burns specialist)? No to these, FA

Is the doctor a forensic? Has a crime been committed? Did someone die? If so in the house? In an accident outside the house? Was someone found death? Autopsy relevant? No to all of these

Was the reason why the daughter took a bath that she was dirty? Yes If so, dirtied by blood? Yes, and something else In a specific body part? Yes Siamese twins relevant? No Dead skin relevant? No
When in the bath did the mother wash up a certain body part of the daughter relevantly? If so may I invoke the list of body parts? All her body? Most relevantly, her hair (and head)

Did Marilyn not notice it was two at night? No, she knew what time it was Did she think is was early morning, got into her morning routine, including bathing her baby daughter, and when she finally found out the actual time, thought she should see a doctor over this? Not a bad guess, but No. (Also, the daughter is not an infant, but is a young child)

Is her daughter alive? Yes Does she suffer from any psychological disorder? No
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Postby Earnest » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:44 pm

So the daughter's hair were dirtied by blood and something else right? Was it her blood? Someone else's blood? Was the blood fresh? Was the somethibg else a part from blood organic substance? Was the blood due to the daughter scratching her hair with long nails?

To be sure doctor = a doctor for humans? A veterinary? (Which could explain the FAs above)
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Postby Balin » Thu Aug 02, 2018 6:15 pm

So the daughter's hair were dirtied by blood and something else right? Yes Was it her blood? No Someone else's blood? Yes, FA (but see below) Was the blood fresh? Yes Was the somethibg else apart from blood organic substance? Yes Was the blood due to the daughter scratching her hair with long nails? No

To be sure doctor = a doctor for humans? No... A veterinarian? Yes! (Which could explain the FAs above) Exactly
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Postby jumpingjacks » Sat Aug 11, 2018 8:53 pm

Did the family pet give birth in the night? And the daughter got caught up in it, resulting in her hair being covered in blood, placenta, and other birth fluids? So Mum bathes her daughter, makes an appointment with the vet to check that pet and pups are all doing ok, and goes shopping for new puppy (or kitten) stuff!
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Postby Balin » Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:26 pm

Did the family pet give birth in the night? And the daughter got caught up in it, resulting in her hair being covered in blood, placenta, and other birth fluids? So Mum bathes her daughter, makes an appointment with the vet to check that pet and pups are all doing ok, and goes shopping for new puppy (or kitten) stuff! Precisely. It didn't take you long to start spoiling my puzzles again...

****SPOILER****

The family cat gave birth on the daughter's pillow at 2 A.M. The noise woke the mother, who upon seeing the new litter woke the daughter to bathe her (getting the birth fluids out of her hair), then made an appointment with the vet to check on the new kittens and went shopping for cat supplies.

Two solves in a row... I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
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Re: [Balin] Literature presents (*IN THE WASH*)

Postby jumpingjacks » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:00 pm

A triumphant return, one might say! :D I shouldn't take the credit for this one though, as the question about the vet was really the biggest leap; I just put the pieces together.
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