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[android18] Negative

Postby android18 » Sun Jul 29, 2018 9:49 pm

If he hadn't have been pointed at, his son would have died.
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Re: [android18] Negative

Postby WiZ » Sun Jul 29, 2018 9:57 pm

The first thing that came to mind was William tell seeing his own reflection in the shiny apple, pointing the arrow thereat, and thus saving his son. But that's probably a little too lateral.

Do the 'he' and 'his' refer to the same person? Is he a HAM? Is his son?

Was he pointed at by: A finger? A weapon (gun, arrow, sword, spear, lance...)? A laser pointer? A mouse cursor? An inanimate object?

Would the son have been killed? Died of natural causes?

Did the pointing spare the son from some sort of cull? Are they in a particularly dangerous environment?
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Re: [android18] Negative

Postby android18 » Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:08 pm

The first thing that came to mind was William tell seeing his own reflection in the shiny apple, pointing the arrow thereat, and thus saving his son. But that's probably a little too lateral. Can't say I've ever heard the story myself :)

Do the 'he' and 'his' refer to the same person? Yes Is he a HAM? Yes Is his son? HCM

Was he pointed at by: A finger? A weapon (gun, arrow, sword, spear, lance...)? A laser pointer? A mouse cursor? An inanimate object? This, no to rest

Would the son have been killed? Died of natural causes? This

Did the pointing spare the son from some sort of cull? Are they in a particularly dangerous environment? No to both
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Re: [android18] Negative

Postby GalFisk » Thu Aug 09, 2018 9:42 am

Natural causes: old age? Genetic disease? Contagious disease? Cancer? Relationship between the father and son relevant? If so, are they close? Distant? Unknown to eachother? Does a person point the object? Is the object used to determine something medical?
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Re: [android18] Negative

Postby android18 » Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:45 am

Natural causes: old age? Genetic disease? Contagious disease? Either type of disease could work in theory, though more likely genetic Cancer? Relationship between the father and son relevant? Not apart from that they live together If so, are they close? Distant? Unknown to eachother? Does a person point the object? Yes Is the object used to determine something medical? Not in this case, no
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Re: [android18] Negative

Postby wolfier » Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:59 pm

Is the object used for pointing used in gambling? used for the selection out of many participants? was the pointing device ultimately controlled by a human? by an animal? by random chance?
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Re: [android18] Negative

Postby trebor » Fri Aug 10, 2018 4:29 am

PMing WAG, taken from one of Paul’s books.
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Re: [android18] Negative

Postby Earnest » Sat Aug 11, 2018 7:44 am

So he has been pointed at by an inanimate object right? Could it be that he took part of a tv show and an arrow pointed at him selecting him as the winner of a monetary prize (with which he was able to pay the cures for his son)?

Could other have been pointed at by the same object? Is the inanimate object on the hand of soneone relevantly? Was the decision to point him and not others arbitrary? Random? Taken by the someone with the inanimate object? Was him literally pointed at by the object (he was present physically when pointed at by the object) or is it something like his name was pointed at by the pen of his boss that was scrolling down a list of employees to randomly assign a bonus on the wage?
Did he see the object pointing at him? Was him pointed at with a weapon (e.g. he was in a war and he was pointed at by the enemies' weapon. He was hit by the weapon and won a Purple heart)?

Pointed at by the object = he was selected? He was chosen?

Did the fact of being pointed at by the objec give him a monetary benefit? A benefit in general? The possibility of using a relevant mean of transport? The possibility of using certain medical structures (drugs/hospitals/ambulances...)? A benefit in terms of time? Was him a doctor?
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Re: [android18] Negative

Postby jumpingjacks » Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:55 am

At the time of The Pointing, had his son already been born? Was he in utero? Is the boy's mother relevant in this puzzle?
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Re: [android18] Negative

Postby android18 » Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:27 am

wolfier

Is the object used for pointing used in gambling? used for the selection out of many participants? No to these was the pointing device ultimately controlled by a human? Yes by an animal? by random chance?

trebor

PMing WAG, taken from one of Paul’s books. Hmm, I don't seem to have received it?


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So he has been pointed at by an inanimate object right? Yes Could it be that he took part of a tv show and an arrow pointed at him selecting him as the winner of a monetary prize (with which he was able to pay the cures for his son)? No

Could other have been pointed at by the same object? Yes Is the inanimate object on the hand of soneone relevantly? In the hand, yes Was the decision to point him and not others arbitrary? FA here Random? Taken by the someone with the inanimate object? No Was him literally pointed at by the object (he was present physically when pointed at by the object) This or is it something like his name was pointed at by the pen of his boss that was scrolling down a list of employees to randomly assign a bonus on the wage?
Did he see the object pointing at him? Yes Was him pointed at with a weapon (e.g. he was in a war and he was pointed at by the enemies' weapon. He was hit by the weapon and won a Purple heart)? No

Pointed at by the object = he was selected? He was chosen? No to these, but he was 'selected' for something

Did the fact of being pointed at by the objec give him a monetary benefit? Possibly, but irrelevant A benefit in general? Yes The possibility of using a relevant mean of transport? The possibility of using certain medical structures (drugs/hospitals/ambulances...)? No to these A benefit in terms of time? No, but explore Was him a doctor? No, but OTRT

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At the time of The Pointing Very dramatic, I like it, had his son already been born? Yes Was he in utero? Is the boy's mother relevant in this puzzle? Yes
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Re: [android18] Negative

Postby jumpingjacks » Mon Aug 13, 2018 12:23 pm

Is the boy's mother alive? Was she the one who pointed at the father? Was she present during The Pointing? (It's a lateral puzzle, has to be dramatic =P )
Do we need to find out more about the nature of the disease? Does the father have it? the mother? the son? Did he have it at any point? Was he cured?
Am I right in saying that him specifically being pointed at was not a deliberate decision? Was he playing spin the bottle, by any chance? Or some other similar game? Where it was just chance that selected him? Were there others present who also stood a chance of being pointed at?
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Re: [android18] Negative

Postby android18 » Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:00 pm

Is the boy's mother alive? Yes Was she the one who pointed at the father? No Was she present during The Pointing? Yes (It's a lateral puzzle, has to be dramatic =P )
Do we need to find out more about the nature of the disease? Yes Does the father have it? the mother? Irrelevant for these the son? Yes Did he have it at any point? Who? Was he cured? Yesish, explore
Am I right in saying that him specifically being pointed at was not a deliberate decision? No Was he playing spin the bottle, by any chance? Or some other similar game? Where it was just chance that selected him? No to these Were there others present who also stood a chance of being pointed at? Yes and others were indeed pointed at
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Re: [android18] Negative

Postby wolfier » Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:25 pm

is bone marrow or any sort of organ matching relevant?
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Re: [android18] Negative

Postby jumpingjacks » Tue Aug 14, 2018 1:03 am

Was the person who did the pointing a medical professional?
Was the mother also pointed at? Other people who were present -- were they known to the father? the mother? Were they related? Friends? Acquaintances?
If the mother had been pointed at, but not the father, would their son have died?
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Re: [android18] Negative

Postby GalFisk » Tue Aug 14, 2018 11:28 am

Was he pointed at by a: device? Machine? Camera? Laser? WAG: some types of eye cancer shows up in flash photos. OTRT? Was he and his son photographed? Was he pointed at with a camera? Did the mother do The Pointing?
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Re: [android18] Negative

Postby gregoryuconn » Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:45 am

Was the son his biological son? Or was he adopted? If the latter, did the pointing help identify a genetic disease the birth parent(s) had that they passed along to the son?
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Re: [android18] Negative

Postby android18 » Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:40 pm

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is bone marrow or any sort of organ matching relevant? No

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Was the person who did the pointing a medical professional? No
Was the mother also pointed at? Yes Other people who were present -- were they known to the father? Yes the mother? Yes Were they related? Yes Friends? Acquaintances? Probably not to these
If the mother had been pointed at, but not the father, would their son have died? Yes

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Was he pointed at by a: device? Machine? Camera? This! Laser? WAG: some types of eye cancer shows up in flash photos. OTRT? Very nice leap there, but unfortunately not Was he and his son photographed? Yes and DOYD of 'photographed' Was he pointed at with a camera? If you mean the son, then yes Did the mother do The Pointing? No

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Was the son his biological son? Yes, but adopted could also work Or was he adopted? If the latter, did the pointing help identify a genetic disease the birth parent(s) had that they passed along to the son? No
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Re: [android18] Negative

Postby jumpingjacks » Wed Aug 15, 2018 10:04 pm

X-Ray?
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Re: [android18] Negative

Postby trebor » Thu Aug 16, 2018 12:41 am

Galfisk, you came up with the same WAG that I did. Well done to us for creative thinking, but alas not for being correct.

Did the father discover something about himself through the photo being taken? About someone else in the photo? If so, the mother? Did he see something in the photo that he wasn’t aware of when the photo was taken? Did he gain notoriety for being in the photo? For whatever happened that saved the life of his son?
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Re: [android18] Negative

Postby wolfier » Thu Aug 16, 2018 4:42 am

Is the camera a normal, i.e. photographic camera? Or is it a security/CCTV camera? Red light camera? Toll booth camera?
TIme between The Pointing event and the time the son would have died if he weren't pointed at - seconds, hours, days, months, years?
Did The Pointing result in knowledge of the disease? Or did it result in a working treatment of a condition known by the father?
Are the father and the mother separated? Custody relevant?
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Re: [android18] Negative

Postby android18 » Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:47 pm

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X-Ray? No

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Did the father discover something about himself through the photo being taken? Yesish, explore About someone else in the photo? If so, the mother? Did he see something in the photo that he wasn’t aware of when the photo was taken?No to these Did he gain notoriety for being in the photo? Yes, seems to be an FA here For whatever happened that saved the life of his son? No, but he did also gain notoriety because of this, as well as the original camera pointing

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Is the camera a normal No, good question, i.e. photographic camera? Or is it a security/CCTV camera? Red light camera? Toll booth camera? None of these
TIme between The Pointing event and the time the son would have died if he weren't pointed at - seconds, hours, days Could be this, months Weeks is probably closer, but this, years?
Did The Pointing result in knowledge of the disease? No Or did it result in a working treatment of a condition known by the father? The condition wasn't known, but yes
Are the father and the mother separated? Custody relevant? No to both
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Re: [android18] Negative

Postby GalFisk » Sun Sep 16, 2018 7:04 am

Abnormal camera: spy camera? Night vision camera? Thermal imaging camera? Medical scanner? Weapon camera? Video camera? Camera obscura? Did the father know he was being pointed at? Did he want to be pointed at? Did he at any point want his son to die?
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Re: [android18] Negative

Postby trebor » Sun Sep 16, 2018 7:42 pm

Is it a phone camera? Speed camera? Finish-line camera in a race?
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Re: [android18] Negative

Postby wolfier » Sun Sep 16, 2018 9:14 pm

infrared camera?
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Re: [android18] Negative

Postby android18 » Thu Sep 27, 2018 1:26 pm

GalFisk

Abnormal camera: spy camera? Night vision camera? Thermal imaging camera? Medical scanner? Weapon camera? Video camera? This, explore Camera obscura? Did the father know he was being pointed at? Yes Did he want to be pointed at? Yes Did he at any point want his son to die? No

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Is it a phone camera? Speed camera? Finish-line camera in a race? It is a type of video camera

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infrared camera? So no to this
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Re: [android18] Negative

Postby GalFisk » Thu Oct 11, 2018 2:04 pm

Video camera: phone filming? News camera? Body camera? Action camera? Surveillance camera? Hidden camera? Underwater camera? Helmet camera? Drone camera? Was the camera carried by a human? Was the video relevantly recorded? Broadcast? Viewed remotely?
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Re: [android18] Negative

Postby GalFisk » Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:05 am

Movie camera? Camera with physical film? A particularly big camera? Noisy camera? Small camera? High speed camera? Timelapse camera? Camera requiring certain conditions? Such as bright light? Special light? Darkness?
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Re: [android18] Negative

Postby android18 » Wed Nov 28, 2018 1:30 am

Video camera: phone filming? News camera? This is closest Body camera? Action camera? Surveillance camera? Hidden camera? Underwater camera? Helmet camera? Drone camera? Was the camera carried by a human? Yesish Was the video relevantly recorded? Broadcast? Yes! Viewed remotely?
Movie camera? Camera with physical film? A particularly big camera? This, no/irr. to rest Noisy camera? Small camera? High speed camera? Timelapse camera? Camera requiring certain conditions? Such as bright light? Special light? Darkness?
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Re: [android18] Negative

Postby GalFisk » Wed Nov 28, 2018 7:58 am

Was the camera controlled by a human? Was it on a stand? Dolly? Crane? Aircraft? Did someone seeing the broadcast have a relevant response to it?
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Re: [android18] Negative

Postby android18 » Wed Nov 28, 2018 1:02 pm

Was the camera controlled by a human? Yes Was it on a stand? Possibly Dolly? Possibly, all that's relevant is that it is probably too big to hold Crane? Aircraft? Did someone seeing the broadcast have a relevant response to it? No
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Re: [android18] Negative

Postby GalFisk » Fri Nov 30, 2018 4:33 am

Is the bigness relevant because: it's easy to see its presence? Easy to see where it's pointing? It has good optics? Good image quality? Requires effort to transport and use? Costs a lot? Is used by people or corporations with lots of money? Did The Pointing help with: discovering the illness? Finding a treatment? Financing a treatment?
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Re: [android18] Negative

Postby trebor » Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:07 pm

Were the father, mother, and son at a live event? Were they being interviewed? Were they aware at the time of The Pointing that the son had this disease?
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Re: [android18] Negative

Postby android18 » Sun Dec 02, 2018 5:01 am

GalFisk

Is the bigness relevant because: it's easy to see its presence? Easy to see where it's pointing? It has good optics? Good image quality? Requires effort to transport and use? Costs a lot? Not really to these Is used by people or corporations with lots of money? Explore this Did The Pointing help with: discovering the illness? Finding a treatment? This is closest Financing a treatment?


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Were the father, mother, and son at a live event? No Were they being interviewed? Yope Were they aware at the time of The Pointing that the son had this disease? No
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Re: [android18] Negative

Postby GalFisk » Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:02 am

Is the camera used by a news organization? TV studio? Movie studio? Is the broadcast seen by many people? By someone recognizing the disease? By someone working on a treatment?
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Re: [android18] Negative

Postby android18 » Sun Dec 02, 2018 7:01 pm

Is the camera used by a news organization? TV studio? Yes! Movie studio? Is the broadcast seen by many people? Probably By someone recognizing the disease? By someone working on a treatment? No to these
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Re: [android18] Negative

Postby trebor » Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:04 pm

Is it relevant why they were appearing on camera? Were they promoting something? Were they on a show? An ad? Was any one of them an actor? If so, the father? Mother? Son? Are the professions of the adults relevant? Is the future profession of the son relevant?

Is the son’s disease a well-known one? Did he have it at the time of The Pointing? Was his life saved because of something one of them said? did? on camera? Because a physical characteristic of the father/mother was noticed? A physical characteristic of the son?
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Re: [android18] Negative

Postby android18 » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:39 pm

Is it relevant why they were appearing on camera? Yes Were they promoting something? No Were they on a show? This An ad? Was any one of them an actor? No If so, the father? Mother? Son? Are the professions of the adults relevant? Yope! Is the future profession of the son relevant? No

Is the son’s disease a well-known one? Specific disease is irrelevant Did he have it at the time of The Pointing? Yes, but... Was his life saved because of something one of them said? did? This on camera? No Because a physical characteristic of the father/mother was noticed? A physical characteristic of the son? Yes
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Re: [android18] Negative

Postby trebor » Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:05 am

Yope to professions, so hobbies? Volunteer activities? Being a stay-at-home parent? Or homeschooling? Is the profession of one of his parents relevant?
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Re: [android18] Negative

Postby wolfier » Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:50 am

Was the physical appearance that's relevant, about his hair? limbs? colour?
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Re: [android18] Negative

Postby android18 » Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:33 pm

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Yope to professions, so hobbies? Volunteer activities? Being a stay-at-home parent? Or homeschooling? No to these Is the profession of one of his parents relevant? The exact profession itself isn't relevant


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Was the physical appearance that's relevant, about his hair? limbs? colour? None of these, OTWT I think
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Re: [android18] Negative

Postby GalFisk » Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:52 pm

Physical appearance: movement? Speech? Responses to stimuli? Actions? Is it a disease of the: eye? Ear? Bones? Joints? Brain? Nervous system? Lungs? Respiratory system? Heart? Circulatory system? Digestive system? Spine? Liver? Renal system? Reproductive system? Glands? Hormones? Skin? Immune system? Muscles? Tendons? Is it caused by cancer? Bacteria? Viruses? Parasites? Genes? Developmental issues? Injury? Allergy?
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Re: [android18] Negative

Postby trebor » Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:36 pm

Was it a reality show? A news show? An unscripted show? Was the show broadcast nationwide? Only locally?
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Re: [android18] Negative

Postby android18 » Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:12 am

GalFisk

Physical appearance: movement? This is closest I guess Speech? Responses to stimuli? Actions? Is it a disease of the: eye? Ear? Bones? Joints? Brain? Nervous system? Lungs? Respiratory system? Heart? This Circulatory system? Digestive system? Spine? Liver? Renal system? Reproductive system? Glands? Hormones? Skin? Immune system? Muscles? Tendons? Is it caused by cancer? Bacteria? Viruses? Parasites? Genes? Irrelevant, but this would probably be most likely Developmental issues? Injury? Allergy?

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Was it a reality show? Not really, but this is closest; DOYD of 'reality show' A news show? No An unscripted show? Again, would probably fit into this category Was the show broadcast nationwide? This Only locally?
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Re: [android18] Negative

Postby GalFisk » Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:38 am

Close to movement: speech? Reflexes? Something voluntary? Involuntary? Something being measured? Is his heartbeat being monitored? Is a dangerous heart problem discovered?
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Re: [android18] Negative

Postby trebor » Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:03 pm

Is it a game show? A daytime talk show like The Doctors, etc.?
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Re: [android18] Negative

Postby android18 » Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:54 pm

GalFisk

Close to movement: speech? Reflexes? Something voluntary? Involuntary? This, but beware of going OTWT Something being measured? Is his heartbeat being monitored? No Is a dangerous heart problem discovered? Eventually, yes

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Is it a game show? A daytime talk show like The Doctors, etc.? No to both
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Re: [android18] Negative

Postby GalFisk » Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:11 pm

Is the color of his skin relevant? Are the camera operators having a hard time getting his skin tone correct? Does he have a problem with blood flow? Blood pressure? Skin temperature? Heat cameras relevant? Other special wavelength cameras?
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Re: [android18] Negative

Postby android18 » Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:23 pm

Is the color of his skin relevant? Are the camera operators having a hard time getting his skin tone correct? Does he have a problem with blood flow? Blood pressure? Skin temperature? Heat cameras relevant? Other special wavelength cameras? No to all; I feel 'movement' may be misleading. Try not to focus too much on the son's physical characteristic, it's not essential to solve this
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Re: [android18] Negative

Postby GalFisk » Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:04 pm

Is a mental characteristic relevant? Is the heart problem causing him issues during filming? At other times? Diet relevant? Weight?
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Re: [android18] Negative

Postby android18 » Thu Dec 13, 2018 6:10 pm

Is a mental characteristic relevant? No Is the heart problem causing him issues during filming? No and remember, the son is not the main focus of the TV show (he didn't appear in it much) At other times? Yes Diet relevant? Weight? No to these
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Re: [android18] Negative

Postby GalFisk » Thu Dec 13, 2018 6:17 pm

Did it cause a problem during physical strain? Emotional strain? Mental strain? Relevant what kind of problem it caused? What kind of heart problem it was? Did it happen on the set? At home? When watching the show?
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