[WiZ] Dave the Fave

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[WiZ] Dave the Fave

Postby WiZ » Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:39 am

Aeschylus, Balthazar, Charlemagne Jr. and Dave are queuing for the same attraction. There is an attendant at the entrance. Aeschylus hands over $1 and is admitted. Balthazar hands over $2 and is admitted. Charlemagne Jr. hands over $3.80 and is admitted. Dave has $5, but is admitted without paying anything. Why?

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Re: [WiZ] Dave the Fave

Postby LemonCurry » Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:34 am

Is everyone H/M? Are they A?C?mixed?
Are their names relevant? If so, does the attendant know their names?

Are they all having money in the same currency?
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Re: [WiZ] Dave the Fave

Postby wwhere » Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:25 am

Is their age relevant? their weight? their height? any other physical attribute?
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Re: [WiZ] Dave the Fave

Postby Earnest » Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:34 am

Are those their real names (for all the 4)?

To be sure, was there a fee to enter the attraction? If so, basing on the puzzle statement it must be 1$ or lower right? Or does it vary depending on something (e.g. time that one is willing to spend in the attraction/ number of throws/number of rings buyed assuming that attraction is meant as "amusement park attraction"...or is it something like a cinema? A restaurant? A disco? A masked party?...)? If it does not vary, can we assume that B and C received a money change? Or did they pay also for David?

To be sure...did they hand over the money when they were in front of the attendant after having done the queue? Are the money handed over the "official amount" required to enter the attraction? Relevant whether they have cash or coins? Is the order in which they entered relevant? First A, then B, C and finally D? Had A 5$ not changing the order of entrance would he have been admitted without paying anything? Had A (or B or C) been the last one with the amount of money they had (respectively 1,2 and 3.80 dollars) would they have been admitted without paying anything? Same q. with 5$ instead of the amounts of above, please.

Would it work even if C had 3$ instead of 3.80?
To be sure..are we talking about real dollars right (not monopoly ones/tickets...)? Do the others effectively pay the amount they handed over? Had D some relevant charachteristics? Was him dressed in a certain way? Was him in a relevant position of the queue? Is it something like after midnight the entrance was free and D entered when midnight came? Was there other people behing D in the queue ? If so were they admitted without paying like D?
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Re: [WiZ] Dave the Fave

Postby wolfier » Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:42 pm

should these amounts be relevantly added up?
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Re: [WiZ] Dave the Fave

Postby WiZ » Wed Aug 01, 2018 12:05 am

LemonCurry

Is everyone H/M? yes Are they A?C?mixed? no to both
Are their names relevant? no - just a slight flourish on A, B, C and D If so, does the attendant know their names? no

Are they all having money in the same currency? yes

Wwhere

Is their age relevant? their weight? their height? any other physical attribute? No to all

Earnest

Are those their real names (for all the 4)? Yes

To be sure, was there a fee to enter the attraction? no, at the point in time in which the puzzle is set If so, basing on the puzzle statement it must be 1$ or lower right? n/a Or does it vary depending on something (e.g. time that one is willing to spend in the attraction/ number of throws/number of rings buyed no to all assuming that attraction is meant as "amusement park attraction"... It is, in this case or is it something like a cinema? A restaurant? A disco? A masked party?...)? no to all If it does not vary, correct can we assume that B and C received a money change? No, they did not receive 'change', as we would normally conceive of it Or did they pay also for David? no

To be sure...did they hand over the money when they were in front of the attendant after having done the queue? yes Are the money handed over the "official amount" required to enter the attraction? As in, the price of the attraction? No. Relevant whether they have cash or coins? Yes! Is the order in which they entered relevant? no First A, then B, C and finally D? n/a Had A 5$ not changing the order of entrance would he have been admitted without paying anything? Yes, all other things being equal Had A (or B or C) been the last one with the amount of money they had (respectively 1,2 and 3.80 dollars) would they have been admitted without paying anything? no Same q. with 5$ instead of the amounts of above, please. Yes, under the same circumstances

Would it work even if C had 3$ instead of 3.80? yes
To be sure..are we talking about real dollars right yes (not monopoly ones/tickets...)? Do the others effectively pay the amount they handed over? no, good q Had D some relevant charachteristics? Apart from having the only name that was easy to pronounce, no Was him dressed in a certain way? There is one small relevant aspect about what he was wearing, but it's probably best not to pursue it Was him in a relevant position of the queue? no Is it something like after midnight the entrance was free and D entered when midnight came? no, but I like the way you think Was there other people behing D in the queue ? most probably If so were they admitted without paying like D? it would have varied, quite likely creating a similar iteration of the puzzle scenario


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should these amounts be relevantly added up? No
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Re: [WiZ] Dave the Fave

Postby Earnest » Wed Aug 01, 2018 6:10 am

Was the attendant HAM? was Dave the only one with cash? The attraction did not have a fee right? Can we assume it was free? That the reason why they handed over the money was different from paying the entrance? So the attendant did not put directly the money in his pocket right? Were the coins to be inserted sonewhere? Could the 5$ be changed into coins by the attendant/someone else? In that case would D be able to enter/be admitted without paying?
Is D able to take part to the attraction and enjoy it without paying at all? I mean...be admitted = take part to the attraction? Were the money then given back to the guys? Was it particularly dangerous to enter metal inside the attraction? WAG: Did the attraction involve the fact of going upside down from a certain height (e.g rollercoaster) so that bringing coins could be risky in that had they squeezen out of the pockets they could have fallen on the heads of the people that was down?
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Re: [WiZ] Dave the Fave

Postby WiZ » Thu Aug 02, 2018 11:14 pm

Was the attendant HAM? assume yes was Dave the only one with cash? no The attraction did not have a fee right? right Can we assume it was free? yes That the reason why they handed over the money was different from paying the entrance? yes So the attendant did not put directly the money in his pocket right? no Were the coins to be inserted sonewhere? no Could the 5$ be changed into coins by the attendant/someone else? yes In that case would D be able to enter/be admitted without paying? FA - remember that D was the only one who didn't have to hand his money over
Is D able to take part to the attraction and enjoy it without paying at all? yes I mean...be admitted = take part to the attraction? yes Were the money then given back to the guys? yes Was it particularly dangerous to enter metal inside the attraction? yes in principle, yope to 'metal'

WAG: Did the attraction involve the fact of going upside down from a certain height (e.g rollercoaster) so that bringing coins could be risky in that had they squeezen out of the pockets they could have fallen on the heads of the people that was down?

***** SPOILER *****

The four men are queuing for a duelling rollecoaster (i.e. one in which two cars on separate tracks pass closely by each other at certain points). As loose items such as pocket change can fly out and blind passengers in the other cars, these must be surrendered at the entrance. Aeschylus, Balthazar, and Charlemagne Jr. fork over their coins. Dave has a $5 note and is allowed in.


Well done, Earnest, on a brilliant application of lateral logic. And thank you everyone else for playing.
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Re: [WiZ] Dave the Fave [COASTED TO VICTORY]

Postby Earnest » Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:27 am

Very nice one and thank you!
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