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[wolfier] just doing her job

Postby wolfier » Tue Sep 25, 2018 6:57 pm

Whenever Joanne tells people about what she does for a living, most people immediately think that she does quite the opposite of what that profession does.
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Re: [wolfier] just doing her job

Postby Westing1992 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:12 am

Is the occupation an uncommon one?
Does it have a name like "duster" (as in dusting shelves) where it sounds like she's adding dust to things instead of removing it (like a deduster would?)
Is the name the same as a different job that has a similar name but the opposite goal, ex. a crop duster, which actually does add "dust" to crops?
Do people think that simply because of the name of the job? Because of something about Joanne?
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Re: [wolfier] just doing her job

Postby WiZ » Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:55 am

When giving this description, does she give her job title or a description of what her job entails?
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Re: [wolfier] just doing her job

Postby TDGperson » Wed Sep 26, 2018 4:17 am

Is it because of a common misconception of the job? Is the job misrepresented in media leading to a widespread misconception? Does she actually do the exact opposite of what her profession does? Does she do something that would have opposite outcomes? (for example, killing a criminal to save a hostage's life).
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Re: [wolfier] just doing her job

Postby wolfier » Wed Sep 26, 2018 5:17 am

Westing1992

Is the occupation an uncommon one? It's quite specialised and uncommon, but easily understood.
Does it have a name like "duster" (as in dusting shelves) where it sounds like she's adding dust to things instead of removing it (like a deduster would?) I like this but no :)
Is the name the same as a different job that has a similar name but the opposite goal, ex. a crop duster, which actually does add "dust" to crops? Not this, but you can say that depending on the listener, the name of the job can mean 2 different things.
Do people think that simply because of the name of the job? Yes Because of something about Joanne? No

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When giving this description, does she give her job title or a description of what her job entails? Just the name

TDGperson

Is it because of a common misconception of the job? No Is the job misrepresented in media leading to a widespread misconception? Not really, but something else leads to a widespread misconception Does she actually do the exact opposite of what her profession does? No, she does literally what exactly she tells people Does she do something that would have opposite outcomes? (for example, killing a criminal to save a hostage's life). No to both, and absolutely nobody dies in this puzzle
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Re: [wolfier] just doing her job

Postby trebor » Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:21 pm

Can I invoke the LTPF list of job categories? Or would that give too much away?
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Re: [wolfier] just doing her job

Postby wolfier » Thu Sep 27, 2018 1:14 pm

trebor wrote:Can I invoke the LTPF list of job categories? Or would that give too much away?


Joanne makes something. I'd classify it as "manufacturing".
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Re: [wolfier] just doing her job

Postby GalFisk » Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:31 pm

Does she make something: edible? Dangerous? Living? Electric? Electronic? A substance? A mass-manufactured product? Jewelry? Cosmetics? Something consisting of: wood? Plastic? Stone? Ceramics? Glass? Rubber? Metal? Bone? Teeth? Fur? Skin? Hair? Plant fiber? Fabric? Liquid? Gas? Food? Meat? Dairy? Eggs? Paper/cardboard? Fire? Powder? Is it made of humans? Does she use the product herself? Relevant? Do people think she's making the opposite product?
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Re: [wolfier] just doing her job

Postby jumpingjacks » Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:04 pm

Does her job name fit the form of [verb] + er? Eg. baker = someone who bakes, firefighter = someone who fights fire? And the misconception stems from people thinking she does whatever the verb is?
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Re: [wolfier] just doing her job

Postby wolfier » Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:22 pm

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Does she make something: edible? Dangerous? Living? Electric? Electronic? A substance? No to all
A mass-manufactured product? Assume no, not too relevant
Jewelry? Cosmetics? No to both
Something consisting of: wood? Plastic? Stone? Ceramics? Glass? Rubber? Metal? Bone? Teeth? Fur? Skin? Hair? Plant fiber? Fabric? Liquid? Gas?
Mostly wood, but it may also contain rubber, metal, or fabric
Food? Meat? Dairy? Eggs? Paper/cardboard? Fire? Powder? Is it made of humans? No to these
Does she use the product herself? Relevant? Probably she does, not relevant
Do people think she's making the opposite product? People think she's not making (instead of making) the product

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Does her job name fit the form of [verb] + er? Eg. baker = someone who bakes, firefighter = someone who fights fire? No
And the misconception stems from people thinking she does whatever the verb is? The misconception stems from people thinking she does not actually make the product.
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Re: [wolfier] just doing her job

Postby jumpingjacks » Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:44 pm

Does she make beds?
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Re: [wolfier] just doing her job

Postby wolfier » Fri Sep 28, 2018 2:28 am

jumpingjacks wrote:Does she make beds?


No, but the thought and the bed is a little bit OTRT.
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Re: [wolfier] just doing her job

Postby trebor » Fri Sep 28, 2018 5:53 am

Is it a household item? Something used in the kitchen? Is it shelving? Tables? Chairs? Does she make pencils? When we use whatever she makes, do we do so for enjoyment? Hygiene/grooming? Fashion? Cooking? Cleaning? Is the thing a tool?
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Re: [wolfier] just doing her job

Postby wolfier » Sat Sep 29, 2018 2:05 am

Is it a household item? Yes Something used in the kitchen? Irrel Is it shelving? No Tables? No Chairs? This Does she make pencils? No When we use whatever she makes, do we do so for enjoyment? Irrel Hygiene/grooming? Fashion? Cooking? Cleaning? Is the thing a tool? So none of these

Could be a quick one from here!
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Re: [wolfier] just doing her job

Postby trebor » Sat Sep 29, 2018 4:22 am

Is it brand name of chairs? La-Z-Boy? A specific type of chair? Or style? Rocking chair? Ottoman? Couch/chesterfield? Part of a dinette set? Wicker chair? Recliner?
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Re: [wolfier] just doing her job

Postby jumpingjacks » Sat Sep 29, 2018 2:30 pm

Chairperson? Dual meaning of 'chair' relevant?
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Re: [wolfier] just doing her job

Postby wolfier » Sun Sep 30, 2018 1:58 am

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Is it brand name of chairs? La-Z-Boy? Brand name irrel A specific type of chair? Or style? A particular type/style of chair Rocking chair? Ottoman? Couch/chesterfield? Part of a dinette set? Wicker chair? Recliner? But none of these

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Chairperson? No Dual meaning of 'chair' relevant? No, but OTRT
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Re: [wolfier] just doing her job

Postby jumpingjacks » Sun Sep 30, 2018 2:08 pm

Stool = poo relevant?
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Re: [wolfier] just doing her job

Postby trebor » Sun Sep 30, 2018 11:36 pm

Hide-a-beds? Patio furniture? Office chairs? Those chairs that are attached to desks in elementary schools? Chaise lounges? Futons?
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Re: [wolfier] just doing her job

Postby wolfier » Mon Oct 01, 2018 1:49 am

jumpingjacks

Stool = poo relevant?

Clever! However this doesn't drive the puzzle.



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Hide-a-beds? Patio furniture? Office chairs? Those chairs that are attached to desks in elementary schools? Chaise lounges? Futons? None of these
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Re: [wolfier] just doing her job

Postby GalFisk » Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:48 pm

Chair for: work? Leisure? A specific profession? Or activity? Massage chair? Motorized chair? Wheelchair? Is the cair collapsible? Stackable? Uncomfortable? Cheap? Expensive?
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Re: [wolfier] just doing her job

Postby wolfier » Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:39 am

GalFisk wrote:Chair for: work? Leisure? A specific profession? Or activity? Massage chair? Motorized chair? Wheelchair? Is the cair collapsible? Stackable? Uncomfortable? Cheap? Expensive?


I see many chairs of this type at work. It's also for leisure. It's not for any specific profession, or any "activity" (other than sitting comfortably). A typical chair of this type is most definitely not associated with a wheelchair or motorised chairs (although technically all wheelchairs and most motorised chairs fit this literal style). I have never seen one that's collapsible but it's easy to imagine collapsible chairs can be made to fit the description of this particular style of chair.
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Re: [wolfier] just doing her job

Postby Balin » Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:46 pm

Swivel chair?
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Re: [wolfier] just doing her job

Postby wolfier » Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:58 pm

Balin wrote:Swivel chair?


Not this, keep going :) and I'm sure it'll hit you.
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Re: [wolfier] just doing her job

Postby GalFisk » Thu Oct 11, 2018 1:55 pm

Can it be calld a seat? Is it used in offices? Vehicles? Homes? Public areas? Outdoors? Is it comfy? Luxurious? Adjustable? Made for one person to sit in? Two? More?
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Re: [wolfier] just doing her job

Postby wolfier » Fri Oct 12, 2018 5:21 pm

GalFisk wrote:Can it be calld a seat? Is it used in offices? Vehicles? Homes? Public areas? Outdoors? Is it comfy? Luxurious? Adjustable? Made for one person to sit in? Two? More?


It's a type of chair, but if you call it a seat the puzzle would stop working. It's used in offices, homes, less seen outdoors, never seen one in a vehicle. It's irrelevant whether it can be seen in public areas. It's made to be comfortable, some are luxurious (then some are cheap). Adjustability is irrelevant. It's for one person to sit in.
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Re: [wolfier] just doing her job

Postby trebor » Fri Oct 12, 2018 6:08 pm

Is it for adults to sit in? Babies? Children? All ages?A chair with armrests? Without? Does the height of the chair help to define it? The width? Does it have any features that are unique to it? Is the seat part made of the same materials as the rest of it?

Does she use a specific word to indicate that she builds this type of chair? And if she used a different one people would know what she meant? Is your use of the phrase “it’ll hit you” a clue?
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Re: [wolfier] just doing her job

Postby gregoryuconn » Sat Oct 13, 2018 1:25 am

Desk chair? Rocking chair? Inflatable chair? Toilet chair? High chair? Barstool? One of those chairs with holes in the back? And she's the one who makes the holes? And they think she's destroying the chairs rather than making them? Does the chair have a back? Relevant?
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Re: [wolfier] just doing her job

Postby wolfier » Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:06 am

trebor

Is it for adults to sit in? Babies? Children? All ages? All ages except babies A chair with armrests? YES Without? Thus no Does the height of the chair help to define it? No The width? No Does it have any features that are unique to it? Yes Is the seat part made of the same materials as the rest of it? Irrel

Does she use a specific word to indicate that she builds this type of chair? Yes, specifically, 2 key words And if she used a different one people would know what she meant? If she says it slightly differently people would know what she means. Is your use of the phrase “it’ll hit you” a clue? No :)


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Desk chair? Rocking chair? Inflatable chair? Toilet chair? High chair? Barstool? One of those chairs with holes in the back? And she's the one who makes the holes? And they think she's destroying the chairs rather than making them? Does the chair have a back? Relevant? None of these, but this type of chair typically has a back.
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Re: [wolfier] just doing her job

Postby GalFisk » Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:02 am

Does she make armrests? Do people think she's resting?
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Re: [wolfier] just doing her job

Postby wolfier » Tue Oct 16, 2018 1:47 am

GalFisk wrote:Does she make armrests? Do people think she's resting?


No but explore. People think she doesn't know anything about or never does her job.
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Re: [wolfier] just doing her job

Postby trebor » Thu Oct 18, 2018 11:37 am

Director’s chairs? Are these chairs made for differently-abled people? For people with certain medical activities? For people who are doing a certain thing other than sitting? Gamers’ chairs?
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Re: [wolfier] just doing her job

Postby gregoryuconn » Mon Oct 22, 2018 2:08 am

High chiars? But not high chairs like for babies? Just chairs that are high? Or perhaps chairs for sitting in and getting high?
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Re: [wolfier] just doing her job

Postby wolfier » Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:18 am

trebor

Director’s chairs? No Are these chairs made for differently-abled people? No For people with certain medical activities? No For people who are doing a certain thing other than sitting? No Gamers’ chairs? No


gregoryuconn

High chiars? But not high chairs like for babies? Just chairs that are high? Or perhaps chairs for sitting in and getting high?
No to these
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Hint: if we get too specific about the chair type we're getting colder.
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Re: [wolfier] just doing her job

Postby gregoryuconn » Tue Oct 23, 2018 6:08 pm

Is a specific brand or store name relevant? Similar sounding words or phrases? Something like Shack of Sit? And they hear something else?
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Re: [wolfier] just doing her job

Postby trebor » Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:37 pm

Does she use the word “construct”? Build? A synonym? Make? Assemble? “They build the chair, I do the rest?” Or “give it a rest”? Chair rester?
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Re: [wolfier] just doing her job

Postby wolfier » Sat Oct 27, 2018 7:12 pm

gregoryuconn

Is a specific brand or store name relevant? No Similar sounding words or phrases? No Something like Shack of Sit? No And they hear something else? No


trebor

Does she use the word “construct”? Build? A synonym? Make? Assemble? Yes to a word that means "builder" of a sort but not these “They build the chair, I do the rest?” Or “give it a rest”? Chair rester? Not these
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Re: [wolfier] just doing her job

Postby Balin » Sat Oct 27, 2018 7:37 pm

Is the type of chair just "armchair"?
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Re: [wolfier] just doing her job

Postby trebor » Sat Oct 27, 2018 9:27 pm

Carpenter? Upholsterer? Fastener? Designer? Maker?
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Re: [wolfier] just doing her job

Postby gregoryuconn » Sun Oct 28, 2018 12:33 am

Chair tester? And they think it's a euphemism for just sitting around in a chair all day doing nothing but she's actually quality control of sorts?
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Re: [wolfier] just doing her job

Postby wolfier » Sun Oct 28, 2018 4:09 am

Balin
Is the type of chair just "armchair"?
YES

gregoryuconn
Chair tester? And they think it's a euphemism for just sitting around in a chair all day doing nothing but she's actually quality control of sorts? Not really...

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Carpenter? This Upholsterer? Fastener? Designer? Maker? No to rest


Is it enough to put together the whole story?
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Re: [wolfier] just doing her job

Postby Balin » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:18 pm

I may have it:
Is it relevant that "armchair" can also be used to a person who says they can do better than a professional? (being in the U.S., it's commonly paired as "armchair quarterback")
Does she say that she is an "armchair carpenter"? Which others interpret as her constantly criticizing the work of actual carpenters? But in actuality, she builds armchairs?
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Re: [wolfier] just doing her job

Postby wolfier » Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:40 am

Balin wrote:I may have it:
Is it relevant that "armchair" can also be used to a person who says they can do better than a professional? (being in the U.S., it's commonly paired as "armchair quarterback")
Does she say that she is an "armchair carpenter"? Which others interpret as her constantly criticizing the work of actual carpenters? But in actuality, she builds armchairs?


**** SPOILER ****
Joanne builds armchairs out of timber for a living.
Whenever someone asks Joanne about her occupation, she jokingly says "people say I'm an armchair carpenter".
They immediately think she lacks any practical experience of carpentry.

Great job, Balin for the solve, and thanks for playing!
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Re: [wolfier] just doing her job (VARNISHED)

Postby Balin » Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:06 pm

I love it!
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Re: [wolfier] just doing her job (VARNISHED)

Postby trebor » Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:45 am

Nice.
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