[Solong] Anti-sociable medicine

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[Solong] Anti-sociable medicine

Postby Solong » Sat Sep 29, 2018 2:16 am

Doesn't that [the subject of this puzzle] rather defeat the purpose?
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Postby Earnest » Sat Sep 29, 2018 7:30 am

That = an object? An animal? A solid? A liquid? A gas? A tangible object? An intangible one? A common object? Used in every day life? Bugger than an umbrella? Bigger than a car? Bigger than a polo ball?

Defeat the purpose = completely vanify any effort? Completely vanify what "we" want to do? What another object is meant to do? Vanify the purpose of something? (An advertisement?...) If so, is the purpose of that something mainly in terms of security? Entertainment? Charity (e.g. a donation)? Displaying images/videos? Connecting to the internet? Cooking? Writing? Going somewhere? Paying tickets? Paying? Going from A to B? Avoiding something tedious (e.g. a line)? Better hearing? Better seeing? Others?

Did the conversation happen in a relevant place? The place where the purpose could be defeat? Parking lot? Supermarket? Restaurant? Street? A building? Bank? Shop? House? Garden? Hotel? Stadium?

Technology relevant? Internet? Laptop? Phone? Devices? Airplanes?
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Re: [Solong] Anti-sociable medicine

Postby Solong » Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:13 am

That = an object? An animal? A solid? A liquid? A gas? A tangible object? An intangible one? 'that' is an action, which involves an object. A common object? Not common, but you would probably recognize it. Used in every day life? No. Bugger than an umbrella? Bigger than a car? Bigger than a polo ball? n.r. to both.

Defeat the purpose = completely vanify any effort? If you mean 'make the effort in vain' yes. Completely vanify what "we" want to do? Perhaps not completely, but would certainly make it difficult.What another object is meant to do? Vanify the purpose of something? (An advertisement?...) If so, is the purpose of that something mainly in terms of security? Yessish.Entertainment? Charity (e.g. a donation)? Displaying images/videos? Connecting to the internet? Cooking? Writing? Going somewhere? Paying tickets? Paying? Going from A to B? Avoiding something tedious (e.g. a line)? No to all of these. Better hearing? Better seeing? Others? Yes, others.

Did the conversation happen in a relevant place? The place where the purpose could be defeat? Yes to both. Parking lot? Supermarket? Restaurant? Street? A building? Yes, but none of those listed.Bank? Shop? House? Garden? Hotel? Stadium?

Technology relevant? Yes.Internet? Laptop? Phone? Devices? ..but not electronics.Airplanes?No, nor any other means of transportation.
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Re: [Solong] Anti-sociable medicine

Postby Earnest » Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:31 am

Technology = something automatic? (E.g. an automatic door?) Elevators relevant?

 in terms of security = security for babies (e.g. there was a ban on doing something which was instead totally allowed by performing a certain action) ? General security? Security against something that could possivly hurt (e.g. listening too laud music...) Is the building an house? Is music relevant? Sounds in general?

Is the action contraddicting a law? A ban? Does the action allow to do something ? Do not allow to do something? Is glass involved?

Is the building involved an house? A garage? A skyscreper? A radio building? A relevantly high building? A relevant place of work? An hospital?
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Postby Solong » Tue Oct 02, 2018 5:31 pm

Technology = something automatic? (E.g. an automatic door?) Elevators relevant? No - not especially recent technology.

in terms of security = security for babies (e.g. there was a ban on doing something which was instead totally allowed by performing a certain action) ? General security? Security against something that could possivly hurt All pf this is or could be close to OTRT, but not quite. (e.g. listening too laud music...) Is the building an house? No.Is music relevant? Sounds in general? No to both.

Is the action contraddicting a law? A ban?Don't think it is an actual law; 'ban' is closer. Even closer would be 'standard procedure.' Does the action allow to do something ? Do not allow to do something? One is expected to take special pains not to do something. Is glass involved?Not in any significant way.

Is the building involved an house? A garage? A skyscreper? A radio building? A relevantly high building? A relevant place of work? An hospital? This; everything else no.
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Postby Earnest » Wed Oct 03, 2018 8:02 am

hygiene involved? Washing hands? Pay something? Wheelchairs involved? Radiography relevant? Radiations? Fire alarms? Emergency exits? Smoking? Operations? Parking? Ambulances? Electricity?
Is the standard procedure necessary in case of emergency and contradicts the purpose of something else? E.g. standard procedure = take the pager inside a certain room in case of emergency; ban = not taking any electronically device inside a room because of radiations.
Or standard procedure visit the patient in any case; purpose of having a red code = avoid to lose time in standard procedures

Does the standard procedure involve patients? Doctors? patients entering the hospital? Patients being discharged?
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Postby Solong » Thu Oct 04, 2018 6:06 pm

hygiene involved? Yes.Washing hands?but not this. Pay something? Wheelchairs involved? Radiography relevant? Radiations? Fire alarms? Emergency exits? Smoking? Operations? Parking? Ambulances? Electricity? all of this, n.r.
Is the standard procedure necessary in case of emergency It would be necessary in some cases, not necessarily emergency cases.and contradicts the purpose of something else? E.g. standard procedure = take the pager inside a certain room in case of emergency; ban = not taking any electronically device inside a room because of radiations. no.
Or standard procedure visit the patient in any case; purpose of having a red code = avoid to lose time in standard procedures Puzzle involves visitors, but not 'red codes.'

Does the standard procedure involve patients? Doctors? patients entering the hospital? Patients being discharged?
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Re: [Solong] Anti-sociable medicine

Postby GalFisk » Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:43 pm

Hygiene: cleaning something? Someone? Not contaminating something? Someone? Immune system deficiencies relevant? Hospitals? Infection? Disinfection? If so, by: chemicals? Heat? Radiation?
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Re: [Solong] Anti-sociable medicine

Postby Solong » Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:12 pm

Hygiene: cleaning something? Someone? Not contaminating something? Someone? These two.Immune system deficiencies relevant? Hospitals? Yes; a hospital is the setting. Infection? Disinfection? If so, by: chemicals? Heat? Radiation? all others, no or n.r.
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Postby GalFisk » Thu Oct 11, 2018 2:00 pm

Not contaminating by: not touching? Wearing protective equipment? Washing? Keeping a certain distance? Not entering an area? Keeping something sealed? Children relevant? Adults? Patients? Visitors to patients?
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Postby Solong » Thu Oct 11, 2018 4:35 pm

Not contaminating by: not touching? Wearing protective equipment? This.Washing? Keeping a certain distance? Not entering an area? Keeping something sealed? Children relevant? Adults? Patients? Visitors to patients? Yes to the last three; others n.r.
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Re: [Solong] Anti-sociable medicine

Postby GalFisk » Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:43 am

Wearing: hats? Masks? Gloves? Protective suits? Condoms?
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Postby Solong » Sat Oct 13, 2018 9:46 pm

Wearing: hats? Masks? Gloves? Protective suits? This. Condoms?
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Postby GalFisk » Sun Oct 14, 2018 12:41 pm

Relevant what the suit covers? If so: the entire body? Face? Hands? Feet? Arms? Legs? Does wearing the suit negate the purpose of the visit? Does the suit relevantly make the visitor look inhuman? Prevent speech? Eye contact? Comfort?
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Re: [Solong] Anti-sociable medicine

Postby Solong » Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:14 pm

Relevant what the suit covers? If so: the entire body?Pretty much. Face? Hands? Feet? Arms? Legs? Does wearing the suit negate the purpose of the visit? no.Does the suit relevantly make the visitor look inhuman? Prevent speech? Eye contact? Comfort?no or n.r. to all.
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Postby Balin » Sun Oct 14, 2018 11:39 pm

Hazmat suit?
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Re: [Solong] Anti-sociable medicine

Postby Solong » Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:55 pm

Hazmat suit? No, but OTRT
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Postby GalFisk » Tue Oct 16, 2018 1:07 am

Does the suit cause a problem? Costs relevant? Sickness of the patient relevant? Disposal of the suit relevant? Reuse? Cleaning? Does something negate the benefits of the suit?
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Re: [Solong] Anti-sociable medicine

Postby Solong » Tue Oct 16, 2018 10:41 pm

Does the suit cause a problem? Yessish. Costs relevant? Sickness of the patient relevant? assume her sickness caused weakened immune system. Disposal of the suit relevant? Reuse? This. Cleaning? Does something negate the benefits of the suit? Yes.

**************************SPOILER*************************
When my son and daughter-in-law were in Italy this past summer, she got a heat stroke and had to go to the hospital, where she was put in an induced coma. When her husband visited her, he had to wear a 'sterile suit,' with the mask, paper booties, etc.
The situation was serious enough that her son by a previous marriage was sent for. When he arrived, the staff asked Charles (my son) to take off his sterile suit so her son could wear it. As they are about the same height, (but not the same weight) this was possible, but her son, who is a liscenced nurse, thought it a bit odd, & so did Charles.
She received excellent care, and is much better now, but still sensitive to heat. As they live in Ft Worth, this could be a problem - or was until this weekend, when the temperature dropped to 41F.
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Re: [Solong] Anti-sociable medicine

Postby Hobbsicle » Sun Dec 02, 2018 3:33 am

Not-so-sterile suit. Interesting story. Also posting just to mention that I live in Ft. Worth as well. Small world, and all that. Glad she is doing better.
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