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[invisiblemimsy] Where there's smoke, there's fire

Postby invisiblemimsy » Sat Dec 22, 2018 1:20 pm

There was a smoking ban. One business-owner found a canny loophole. What fun!
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Re: [invisiblemimsy] Where there's smoke, there's fire

Postby Doriana » Sat Dec 22, 2018 5:23 pm

smoking ban = on cigarettes? on all tobacco products? indoors? outdoors?
Was the smoking ban put in place to protect non-smokers? to prevent fires? to improve people's health?

business owner = H/A/M? H/A/F?

Is the business in question a store? a restaurant? another place that serves food or drinks? a hotel? a place that provides a service? a movie theatre?
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Re: [invisiblemimsy] Where there's smoke, there's fire

Postby KayleeArafinwiel » Sat Dec 22, 2018 5:44 pm

is it a smoke shop?

was the smoking that was banned the smoking of meat? other food? *thinking outside the box*
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Re: [invisiblemimsy] Where there's smoke, there's fire

Postby invisiblemimsy » Sat Dec 22, 2018 7:20 pm

Doriana wrote:smoking ban = on cigarettes? YES on all tobacco products? YES indoors? YES outdoors? NO
Was the smoking ban put in place to protect non-smokers? YES to prevent fires? IRR to improve people's health? YES

business owner = H/A/M? H/A/F? H/A, GENDER IRR

Is the business in question a store? a restaurant? another place that serves food or drinks? YES, A BAR a hotel? a place that provides a service? a movie theatre?
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Re: [invisiblemimsy] Where there's smoke, there's fire

Postby invisiblemimsy » Sat Dec 22, 2018 7:21 pm

KayleeArafinwiel wrote:is it a smoke shop? NO

was the smoking that was banned the smoking of meat? other food? *thinking outside the box* NO, GOOD IDEA THOUGH
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Re: [invisiblemimsy] Where there's smoke, there's fire

Postby Doriana » Sat Dec 22, 2018 7:27 pm

Are there exceptions from the smoking ban for special occasions?
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Re: [invisiblemimsy] Where there's smoke, there's fire

Postby invisiblemimsy » Sat Dec 22, 2018 7:30 pm

Doriana wrote:Are there exceptions from the smoking ban YES for special occasions? NOT EXACTLY BUT OTRT
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Re: [invisiblemimsy] Where there's smoke, there's fire

Postby KayleeArafinwiel » Sat Dec 22, 2018 7:34 pm

vaping relevant? marijuana?
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Postby invisiblemimsy » Sat Dec 22, 2018 7:54 pm

KayleeArafinwiel wrote:vaping relevant? marijuana? NO TO BOTH
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Re: [invisiblemimsy] Where there's smoke, there's fire

Postby Doriana » Sat Dec 22, 2018 8:10 pm

Are the exceptions related to who can smoke? what you can smoke? where you can smoke? when you can smoke?
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Re: [invisiblemimsy] Where there's smoke, there's fire

Postby invisiblemimsy » Sat Dec 22, 2018 8:18 pm

Doriana wrote:Are the exceptions related to who can smoke? YES, IN A GENERAL SENSE what you can smoke? IRR, ASSUME CIGARETTES where you can smoke? YES when you can smoke? [b YES, IN THE SENSE OF 'WHEN CERTAIN CONDITIONS ARE SATISFIED' [/b]
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Postby Doriana » Sat Dec 22, 2018 8:21 pm

Religion relevant? If so, can you smoke in places of worship? So the owner declares the bar a church?
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Postby invisiblemimsy » Sat Dec 22, 2018 8:22 pm

Doriana wrote:Religion relevant? If so, can you smoke in places of worship? So the owner declares the bar a church?NOT RELIGION, BUT OTRT.
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Re: [invisiblemimsy] Where there's smoke, there's fire

Postby Doriana » Sat Dec 22, 2018 8:38 pm

So, does he pretend his bar is something else in order to lift the ban?
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Re: [invisiblemimsy] Where there's smoke, there's fire

Postby invisiblemimsy » Sat Dec 22, 2018 9:13 pm

Doriana wrote:So, does he pretend his bar is something else in order to lift the ban? OTRT... It's still a bar, but...
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Re: [invisiblemimsy] Where there's smoke, there's fire

Postby Doriana » Sat Dec 22, 2018 9:14 pm

Does he tell the authorities (or whoever issued the smoking ban) that his bar is something else?
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Re: [invisiblemimsy] Where there's smoke, there's fire

Postby invisiblemimsy » Sat Dec 22, 2018 9:17 pm

Doriana wrote:Does he tell the authorities (or whoever issued the smoking ban) that his bar is something else? yes
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Re: [invisiblemimsy] Where there's smoke, there's fire

Postby Earnest » Sun Dec 23, 2018 7:23 am

Bar = private club? Bar = lounge pub? Did he claim it was on the outside (e.g. it did not have a proper roof...)? A bar selling tobaccos products (so that clients could in theory try them)? Did he claim it while the bar was in the full of its activities? Did he claim that the ban is valid but people come there to throw away the quasi finished cigarettes and stop in the bar just to finish the cigarette and throw it away? Bar for smokers only? Did he claim that tobacco is an aroma of one of the cocktails? So that without smoking the taste would not have been perceived?
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Re: [invisiblemimsy] Where there's smoke, there's fire

Postby invisiblemimsy » Sun Dec 23, 2018 7:46 pm

Earnest wrote:Bar = private club? Bar = lounge pub? Just a pub. Did he claim it was on the outside (e.g. it did not have a proper roof...)? A bar selling tobaccos products (so that clients could in theory try them)? Did he claim it while the bar was in the full of its activities? Not sure what you mean by this Did he claim that the ban is valid but people come there to throw away the quasi finished cigarettes and stop in the bar just to finish the cigarette and throw it away? Bar for smokers only? Did he claim that tobacco is an aroma of one of the cocktails? So that without smoking the taste would not have been perceived? No to everything else
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Re: [invisiblemimsy] Where there's smoke, there's fire

Postby trebor » Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:32 am

Is this something like the owner of an illegal strip club giving patrons paper and pen so they can say it's an art class and they're drawing nudes?

Whatever the owner tells the authorities the bar is, is that thing still related to serving food and drink?
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Re: [invisiblemimsy] Where there's smoke, there's fire

Postby invisiblemimsy » Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:12 am

trebor wrote:Is this something like the owner of an illegal strip club giving patrons paper and pen so they can say it's an art class and they're drawing nudes? yes, very similar to this

Whatever the owner tells the authorities the bar is, is that thing still related to serving food and drink? yes
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Re: [invisiblemimsy] Where there's smoke, there's fire

Postby GalFisk » Tue Jan 08, 2019 6:02 am

Is he saying the bar is a film set? Theater scene? Historical reenactment? That an experiment is going on? A performance?
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Re: [invisiblemimsy] Where there's smoke, there's fire

Postby JenBurdoo » Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:42 pm

Does he simply declare it a cigar bar? (I have one of these near me, a business specifically for smokers.) Is a game relevant?
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Re: [invisiblemimsy] Where there's smoke, there's fire

Postby invisiblemimsy » Tue Jan 15, 2019 6:31 pm

JenBurdoo wrote:Does he simply declare it a cigar bar? (I have one of these near me, a business specifically for smokers.) Is a game relevant? No to both
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Re: [invisiblemimsy] Where there's smoke, there's fire

Postby invisiblemimsy » Tue Jan 15, 2019 6:36 pm

GalFisk wrote:Is he saying the bar is a film set? Theater scene? This Historical reenactment? That an experiment is going on? A performance? and this


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