[Nimue] A Bad End

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[Nimue] A Bad End

Postby nimue » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:38 pm

When Deirdre read a certain obituary in the newspaper, she decided that either the deceased or his daughter was a jerk. But she had never heard of either of them before, the obit didn't attribute any characteristics to the deceased that Deirdre disliked & it said nothing about his daughter except that she was the sole survivor. So why did she form this opinion?
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Re: A Bad End

Postby GalFisk » Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:33 pm

Survivor: all others died of old age? All other died or were killed in the same event? WAG: did they die during an important party or gathering for the sake of father, and the daughter was either not invited or declined to attend?
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Re: A Bad End

Postby nimue » Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:38 pm

Survivor: all others died of old age? All other died or were killed in the same event? WAG: did they die during an important party or gathering for the sake of father, and the daughter was either not invited or declined to attend? NO TO ALL!!
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Re: A Bad End

Postby JenBurdoo » Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:56 pm

Relevant who wrote the obit? Was it the daughter?
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Re: A Bad End

Postby nimue » Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:30 pm

Relevant who wrote the obit? YES Was it the daughter? POSSIBLY
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Re: A Bad End

Postby Earnest » Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:01 am

Was it a joke? An advertisment? Was the deceased dead?
If so, recently? Was the obituory for the anniversary of the death? Relevant the cause of his death? Natural causes? Relevant what he was doing when be died?

Was the obituary placed where it was supposed to be in the newspaper? Was it written in a particular format/style/font? Was there a relevant picture of the deceased? Can we assume that she formed her opinion just readibg the obituary (i.e. she opened the newspaoer and only read the obituary without looking at any other news?)? Relevant her name (Deirdre?)? Is it an anagram?
Relevant the exact words used in the obituory to announce the death? Any relevant picture? (E.g. it was the anniversary of the death and there was a recent picture with a later date than the one of the death?) Did the obituory relevantly appeared just in the newspaper? In one newspaper? In the news? On tv?
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Re: A Bad End

Postby nimue » Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:07 pm

Was it a joke? NO An advertisment? NO Was the deceased dead? YES
If so, recently? YES Was the obituory for the anniversary of the death? NO Relevant the cause of his death? YES Natural causes?YES Relevant what he was doing when be died?NOISH

Was the obituary placed where it was supposed to be in the newspaper? YES Was it written in a particular format/style/font? NO Was there a relevant picture of the deceased? NO Can we assume that she formed her opinion just readibg the obituary (i.e. she opened the newspaoer and only read the obituary without looking at any other news?)? YES Relevant her name (Deirdre?)? NO Is it an anagram?NO
Relevant the exact words used in the obituory to announce the death? YOPEAny relevant picture? (E.g. it was the anniversary of the death and there was a recent picture with a later date than the one of the death?) NO Did the obituory relevantly appeared just in the newspaper? IRREL In one newspaper? DITTO In the news? DITTO DITTOOn tv?
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Re: A Bad End

Postby Earnest » Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:32 pm

Did D realize it was an obituory?
Causes of the death: old age? Heart attack? Tumor? Poison? He fall from somewhere? Electricity? Fire relevant? Illneses? Others?

Daughter sole survivor: could she have died as well? If so by the same cause that provoked her father's death? Did the daughter specify to have been the sole survivor? Relevant why she did so? Could she have saved her father had she wanted to? Did the father avoid to cure himself?
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Re: A Bad End

Postby nimue » Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:38 pm

Did D realize it was an obituory?
Causes of the death: old age?NO Heart attack?No Tumor? POSSIBLY Poison? NO He fall from somewhere? NO Electricity? NO Fire relevant? NO Illneses? YES Others? NO

Daughter sole survivor: could she have died as well? NO If so by the same cause that provoked her father's death? NO Did the daughter specify to have been the sole survivor? IRREL Relevant why she did so?NO Could she have saved her father had she wanted to? NO Did the father avoid to cure himself?NO
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Re: A Bad End

Postby Earnest » Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:42 pm

Illneses = an illness that commonly lead to death? An illness that is commone in US and in EUrope? If so, may I invoke the list of illneses? Is it a genetic illness?
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Re: A Bad End

Postby nimue » Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:50 pm

Illneses = an illness that commonly lead to death? An illness that is commone in US and in EUrope? If so, may I invoke the list of illneses? Is it a genetic illness?LUNG CANCER OR AIDS.
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Re: A Bad End

Postby Earnest » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:54 am

Relevant his religion? Relevant the daughter's religion? Are the same? Different ones? Funeral relevant? Celebrations after funeral relevant?

Are the causes of the illness relevant? Lung cancer due to smoke? Drugs relevant? Others?
WAG --> Her mum had AIDS and the cause of the father's death is unptotected sex from which the daughter born claiming to be the sole survivor (both mother and father died)?
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Re: [Nimue] A Bad End

Postby nimue » Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:10 pm

Relevant his religion? NO Relevant the daughter's religion? NOAre the same? Different ones? Funeral relevant?NO Celebrations after funeral relevant?NO

Are the causes of the illness relevant? YESLung cancer due to smoke? NODrugs relevant? YOPE Others? YES
WAG --> Her mum had AIDS and the cause of the father's death is unptotected sex from which the daughter born claiming to be the sole survivor (both mother and father died)?NOOOOOOO
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Re: [Nimue] A Bad End

Postby GalFisk » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:35 pm

Alcohol relevant? Intoxication? Did she decide that either person was a jerk to: the other? Soneome else? People in general?
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Re: [Nimue] A Bad End

Postby gregoryuconn » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:01 pm

Was there a mistake in the obit? "Passed away unrepentantly” instead of “unexpectedly”? I’ve seen that.
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Re: [Nimue] A Bad End

Postby nimue » Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:15 pm

Alcohol relevant?NO Intoxication? NO Did she decide that either person was a jerk to: the other? POSSIBLY Soneome else? YESPeople in general? YESISH
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Unread postby gregoryuconn » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:01 pm

Was there a mistake in the obit?NO "Passed away unrepentantly” instead of “unexpectedly”? NO I’ve seen that.HA!!
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Re: [Nimue] A Bad End

Postby GalFisk » Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:21 am

So one of them, she thought, was a jerk to a specific person? Is revenge relevant? Pettiness? Is the person that wrote the obituary relevant?
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Re: [Nimue] A Bad End

Postby nimue » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:22 pm

So one of them, she thought, was a jerk to a specific person? POSSIBLY Is revenge relevant? NO Pettiness?YES Is the person that wrote the obituary relevant?YOPE
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Re: [Nimue] A Bad End

Postby GalFisk » Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:08 am

Does the obit say something unfavorable about the deceased? About the daughter?
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Re: [Nimue] A Bad End

Postby trebor » Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:01 pm

Sole survivor as in the only remaining member of the family?

Is it relevant whether he had any other children? Whether she did? Are any other family members relevant? Methods of death of other people relevant?

Do lung cancer and AIDS have something in common that makes them possible causes of death here?
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Re: [Nimue] A Bad End

Postby nimue » Sat Jan 19, 2019 8:45 pm

Does the obit say something unfavorable about the deceased? NOAbout the daughter? NO
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Unread postby trebor » Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:01 pm

Sole survivor as in the only remaining member of the family? YES

Is it relevant whether he had any other children? NO Whether she did? NO Are any other family members relevant? NO Methods of death of other people relevant? NO

Do lung cancer and AIDS have something in common that makes them possible causes of death here?YES
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Re: [Nimue] A Bad End

Postby Doriana » Mon Jan 21, 2019 10:32 am

Risk factors for lung cancer relevant? risk factors for AIDS?
Relevant that lung cancer and AIDS are sometimes seen as being the patient's own fault?
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Re: [Nimue] A Bad End

Postby nimue » Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:25 pm

Risk factors for lung cancer relevant? SEE NEXT ANSWER BUT ONE risk factors for AIDS? SEE NEXT ANSWER
Relevant that lung cancer and AIDS are sometimes seen as being the patient's own fault? YES
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Re: [Nimue] A Bad End

Postby Earnest » Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:46 am

Is contagion relevant? Alcohol? Does the daughter persist in the something that caused the death of all the other members of her family? Is her job relevant? Her habits? What she eats? What she drinks? What she refuses to do? The medicines she takes? The ones that she does not take? Vaccines? Chemicals? Passive smoke? Genetic? Medical prevention? Religion? Alternative cures? Radiations?

Are risk factors associated with: blood? Injections? Sex partners? Sex in general? Drugs? Alchol? Pollution? Hygiene? Blood transfusions?

Is the common cause of the two diseases the exact same? Or maybe are different causes that can emerge through the same habits? By going in the same places? By meeting certain type of people?...

Age of the daughter relevant? Is she an adult? A baby? A teen? Does she have lung cancer or AIDS? Does she risk to? Is she aware of risking? Does she cure herself? Does she have the possibility to cure herself? Medical insurance relevant? Can we assume that she was a regular citizen of U.S?
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Re: [Nimue] A Bad End

Postby LemonCurry » Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:46 am

Is a particular phrase in the obituary relevant? which could refer to either smoking or promiscuity/unprotected sex?
(I don't know, would "Lucky Strikes" work?)
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Re: [Nimue] A Bad End

Postby nimue » Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:10 pm

Is a particular phrase in the obituary relevant? YES which could refer to either smoking or promiscuity/unprotected sex? IT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT PHRASE FOR EACH OF THE 2 POSSIBILITIES.
(I don't know, would "Lucky Strikes" work?)NO
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Re: [Nimue] A Bad End

Postby Earnest » Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:08 pm

Missed my questions :)
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Re: [Nimue] A Bad End

Postby nimue » Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:05 pm

Rectified, with my apology.

Is contagion relevant? YOPE Alcohol? NO Does the daughter persist in the something that caused the death of all the other members of her family? NO Is her job relevant? NO Her habits? POSSIBLY What she eats? NO What she drinks? NO What she refuses to do? POSSIBLYThe medicines she takes? NOThe ones that she does not take?NO Vaccines? NO Chemicals? NOISHPassive smoke? NO Genetic? NO Medical prevention? YESISH Religion? NO Alternative cures? NO Radiations? NO

Are risk factors associated with: blood? Injections? Sex partners? Sex in general? Drugs? Alchol? Pollution? Hygiene? Blood transfusions?

Is the common cause of the two diseases the exact same? Or maybe are different causes that can emerge through the same habits? By going in the same places? By meeting certain type of people?...

Age of the daughter relevant? Is she an adult? A baby? A teen? Does she have lung cancer or AIDS? Does she risk to? Is she aware of risking? Does she cure herself? Does she have the possibility to cure herself? Medical insurance relevant? Can we assume that she was a regular citizen of U.S?
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Re: [Nimue] A Bad End

Postby Earnest » Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:06 am

AIDS stream --> Relevant the association: sex-AIDS-children? Relevant that lung cancer could derive from AIDS? Relevant the association:AIDS-contagion-genetic disease? AIDS-needle (e.g. drugs? Tattoos?)?

Lung cancer stream --> Last cigarette before dying relevant? Did she smoke relevantly? Tuxedo relevant (its translation at least in italian is "smoking")? Cremation relevant? Breathing relevant?

Did she relevantly thank someone? Is the relevant sentence referred: to the habits of the deceased? To her habits? Is it a joke? A pun? Does it involve brands? Mass celebration relevant?
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Re: [Nimue] A Bad End

Postby nimue » Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:38 pm

AIDS stream --> Relevant the association: sex-AIDS-YES children? NO Relevant that lung cancer could derive from AIDS? NO Relevant the association:AIDS-contagion-genetic disease? YOPE AIDS-needle (e.g. drugs? POSSIBLY Tattoos? NO)?

Lung cancer stream --> Last cigarette before dying relevant? SEE NEXT ANSWER Did she smoke relevantly? YOPE Tuxedo relevant (its translation at least in italian is "smoking")? NO Cremation relevant? NO Breathing relevant? NO

Did she relevantly thank someone? Is the relevant sentence referred: to the habits of the deceased? To her habits? Is it a joke? A pun? Does it involve brands? Mass celebration relevant?
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Re: [Nimue] A Bad End

Postby GalFisk » Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:12 am

Relevant for both: pleasure->death? Indulgence->death? Not caring about consequences? Hedonism?
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Re: [Nimue] A Bad End

Postby nimue » Sat Jan 26, 2019 5:46 pm

Did she relevantly thank someone?NO Is the relevant sentence referred: to the habits of the deceased? YES FOR LUNG CANCER, YESISH OR YOPRE FOR AIDS To her habits? NO Is it a joke? NO A pun? NO Does it involve brands? NO Mass celebration relevant?NO
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Unread postby GalFisk » Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:12 am

Relevant for both: pleasure->death? YES FOR BOTH Indulgence->death? DITTO Not caring about consequences? NOISH Hedonism? POSSIBLY
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Re: [Nimue] A Bad End

Postby trebor » Sat Feb 02, 2019 2:06 am

Was the obit mean-spirited towards the deceased? Towards the daughter? Towards someone else? Towards the people treating the deceased? Did it convey that either the dead person or the daughter had a devil-may-care attitude? That they had hurt people?

Are their professions or hobbies relevant? Is it relevant that there were no other surviving family members? Did D get the impression that either the deceased or his daughter had driven people away? Did she know either of them by name?
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Re: [Nimue] A Bad End

Postby Earnest » Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:40 am

Prostitution relevant (e.g. "the hearts of many women will be broken after his death"?)? Association: lung cancer-smoking (association: smoke after having been burned; or dust like in "another one bite the dust"?)?
Lung cancer and sexually trasmitted diseases? Lung cancer-dust? The sentence: "Ash and dust we were and to ash and dust we will return."? A religious sentence? A double meaning sentence?
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Re: [Nimue] A Bad End

Postby nimue » Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:47 pm

Prostitution relevant (e.g. "the hearts of many women will be broken after his death"?)? NO Association: lung cancer-smoking (association: smoke after having been burned; or dust like in "another one bite the dust"?)? NO
Lung cancer and sexually trasmitted diseases? NO Lung cancer-dust? NO The sentence: "Ash and dust we were and to ash and dust we will return."?NO A religious sentence? NO A double meaning sentence? NO
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Re: [Nimue] A Bad End

Postby Earnest » Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:26 pm

Unprotected sex?
Habits connected to lung-cancer = habits as: bad habits?
Good habits? Sport? Every day habits? Concerning his work? His attitude toward something? Toward someone? Non curance? Habits after he had the lung cancer? Before having it? habits that lead the deceased to have a lung-cancer? Pollution? exposure to radon? second hand smoke air pollution? Diesel? Workplace relevant? Asbestos? Was the man an undertaker? A doctor? Relevant his work? His wife? Breathing relevant? Fresh air?
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Re: [Nimue] A Bad End

Postby nimue » Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:52 pm

Unprotected sex?
Habits connected to lung-cancer = habits as: bad habits?YES
Good habits? YES Sport? NO Every day habits? YES Concerning his work? NO His attitude toward something? NOToward someone?NO Non curance? NO Habits after he had the lung cancer? NO Before having it? YEShabits that lead the deceased to have a lung-cancer? YES Pollution? YESISH exposure to radon? NO second hand NO smoke YES air pollution? Diesel? NO Workplace relevant? NO Asbestos? NO Was the man an undertaker?IRREL A doctor? IRREL Relevant his work? NO His wife? NO Breathing relevant? YOPE Fresh air?YOPE
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Re: [Nimue] A Bad End

Postby Earnest » Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:03 am

Smoke as he smoked cigarettes? Smoke as he breathed smoke? Did she smoke? Did he breath her smoke?
Smoke of industries? Smoke of fire burning? Smoke of fire burning polluted objects? Smoke of cars and traffic?
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Re: [Nimue] A Bad End

Postby nimue » Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:31 pm

Smoke as he smoked cigarettes? CIGARETTE SMOKING IS THE KIND OF SMOKE THAT'S RELEVANT, BUT (HUGE HINT) HE DIDN'T SMOKE. Smoke as he breathed smoke? NO Did she smoke? NO Did he breath her smoke? NO
Smoke of industries? NO Smoke of fire burning? NO Smoke of fire burning polluted objects? NOSmoke of cars and traffic?NO
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Re: [Nimue] A Bad End

Postby Earnest » Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:55 pm

Is the sentence of the kind " he could also have smoked"? Is the sentence against the ones who smoke and instead did not have a lung cancer (hope not)? Or of the type "Had he smoked..."? Cigarettes industries relevant? Pictures on cigarettes'boxes? Metaphors or similitudes eith cigarettes/smoke? Life as a cigarette?

Ho did not smoke anything right (cigarettes nor electric cigarettes)?
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Re: [Nimue] A Bad End

Postby nimue » Thu Feb 07, 2019 9:30 pm

Is the sentence of the kind " he could also have smoked"?NO Is the sentence against the ones who smoke and instead did not have a lung cancer (hope not)? NO Or of the type "Had he smoked..."?NO Cigarettes industries relevant? NO Pictures on cigarettes'boxes? NO Metaphors or similitudes eith cigarettes/smoke?NO Life as a cigarette?NO (HIH?)

Ho did not smoke anything right (cigarettes nor electric cigarettes)?YES
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Re: [Nimue] A Bad End

Postby Earnest » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:19 am

Breathing, fresh air and pollution are yopeshly relevant right? Drinking and eating relevant? Yoga and meditation? Helping other people with difficulties? Being used to breath fresh air? Did he get lung cancer after having breathed smoke of cigarettes? If so voluntarily?

WAG: did he have a lung transplant with lungs of an ex-smoker?

The habits that lead the deceased to have the cancer are not smoking because he did not smoke but are related to it, correct? Smoke = cigarettes' smoke? Cigarettes of others? Others smoking cigarettes relevant? Cigarette buds relevant? Still lighted up? Pubs relevant? Ashtrays?

Did the daughter relevantly know that he did not smoke? Is the word "cancer" used metaphorically (e.g. as in "cancer of society"...)?
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Re: [Nimue] A Bad End

Postby trebor » Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:28 pm

I think you missed my questions from a week ago, but I think now that some of been answered/made redundant anyway.

Regardless of what D surmised, was the deceased a jerk? Was the daughter? Relevant?
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Re: [Nimue] A Bad End

Postby nimue » Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:15 pm

Sole survivor as in the only remaining member of the family? YES

Is it relevant whether he had any other children? YES Whether she did? NO Are any other family members relevant? NO Methods of death of other people relevant? NO

Do lung cancer and AIDS have something in common that makes them possible causes of death here?YES

Was the obit mean-spirited towards the deceased? NO Towards the daughter? NO Towards someone else?YES Towards the people treating the deceased? NO Did it convey that either the dead person or the daughter had a devil-may-care attitude? NO That they had hurt people? NO

Are their professions NO or hobbies YOPOE OR NOISH relevant? Is it relevant that there were no other surviving family members? YES Did D get the impression that either the deceased or his daughter had driven people away? NO Did she know either of them by name?NO

Regardless of what D surmised, was the deceased a jerk? Was the daughter? THAT'S A MATTER IOF OPINION, BUT I THINK THAT WHOEVER SUPPLIED THE INFO FOR THE OBIT WAS A JERK.Relevant?
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Re: [Nimue] A Bad End

Postby GalFisk » Mon Feb 11, 2019 4:52 am

Was it mean-spirited towards someone dead? Living? Towards one specific person? A group? Is the funeral relevant? Funeral attendees?
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Re: [Nimue] A Bad End

Postby nimue » Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:46 pm

Was it mean-spirited towards someone dead? YES Living?YES Towards one specific person? NO A group?YES Is the funeral relevant? NO Funeral attendees?NO
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Re: [Nimue] A Bad End

Postby GalFisk » Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:05 am

Was it mean-spirited towards AIDS victims? Lung cancer victims? Hedonists? A profession?
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Re: [Nimue] A Bad End

Postby Earnest » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:00 am

Something in common between lung cancer and AIDS = a symptom? A cure? The habit that lead to them (the cause)? Last days of life? Breathing problems? Lung infections? Lung diseases? Recognize smells relevant?

Is "her secret" to survive relevant? Are interviews/newspapers relevant? Relevant of what other members of her family died? Of lung cancer or HIV? Relevant how many they were? More than 3 (a part from her)? More than 5? Did they die many time before the relevant deceased? Was their obituary similarly mean-spirited? Did the daughter of the deceased believe that it was a coincidence that all of the members of her family died? Was she mean-spirited with them, which had the same disease, and generalized to anyone who had it? Or maybe she was mean-spirited to the doctors which were unable to cure them?
She was the sole survivor = she had never had HIV nor lung cancer? She had them (one of them) but was able to spot them in time and save herself (trusting doctors and following the cures?)? Relevant? If so, did she believe she had survived for other reasons than the doctors'cures (king of breathing fresh air)?

Is the every day hobby more a routine than an hobby? If so, in order to allow the ill people to better breath? To better recognizing smells? If so, did she know that? Did she mistake these practices to something useless?
Is a sentence like "sheer lung power" relevant?
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Re: [Nimue] A Bad End

Postby nimue » Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:27 pm

Something in common between lung cancer and AIDS = a symptom? NO A cure? NO The habit that lead to them (the cause)? YES Last days of life? Breathing problems? NO Lung infections? NO Lung diseases? NO Recognize smells relevant? NO

Is "her secret" to survive relevant? NO Are interviews/newspapers relevant? NORelevant of what other members of her family died?NO Of lung cancer or HIV? Relevant how many they were? NO More than 3 (a part from her)? More than 5? Did they die many time before the relevant deceased? IRREL Was their obituary similarly mean-spirited? THAT DEPENDS ON WHO SUPPLIED THE INFODid the daughter of the deceased believe that it was a coincidence that all of the members of her family died? NOWas she mean-spirited with them, which had the same disease, and generalized to anyone who had it? NO Or maybe she was mean-spirited to the doctors which were unable to cure them? NO
She was the sole survivor = she had never had HIV nor lung cancer? NOShe had them (one of them) but was able to spot them in time and save herself (trusting doctors and following the cures?)? NO Relevant? INO f so, did she believe she had survived for other reasons than the doctors'cures (king of breathing fresh air)?

Is the every day hobby more a routine than an hobby? YESIf so, in order to allow the ill people to better breath? NOTo better recognizing smells? NO If so, did she know that? Did she mistake these practices to something useless? NO
Is a sentence like "sheer lung power" relevant?NO
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Re: [Nimue] A Bad End

Postby GalFisk » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:34 am

You missed mine?
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Re: [Nimue] A Bad End

Postby nimue » Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:04 pm

Was it mean-spirited towards AIDS victims? YESISH Lung cancer victims? YESISH Hedonists? YES A profession?NO
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Re: [Nimue] A Bad End

Postby trebor » Sun Feb 17, 2019 7:25 pm

The lung cancer would've been caused by something other than smoking, correct? Can we rule out chewing tobacco as well? Would it have been a cancer that started elsewhere and progressed to the lungs? Mold relevant? Asbestos?

I'm confused. Just for clarity, in the event of it being AIDS, would the AIDS have been caused by unprotected sex?

Did the deceased have other children? By the daughter's mother? Are they dead now? (Hey, just because the obit says the daughter is the sole survivor doesn't mean it's true.)
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