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[Nimue] A surprise abot racism

PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:39 pm
by nimue
Some of the stories & novels in the philosophy and fiction courses I teach deal, unsurprisingly, with racism. You might think there's nothing surprising to say about racism, but, after the first such story or novel in each course, I actually get to say something that almost all students find surprising. What is it?

Re: [Nimue] A surprise abot racism

PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:02 pm
by trebor
Are the relevant stories and novels linked by author? Are the identities of the writers relevant? By theme, other than race? Is race/racism the main theme of all these relevant works?

Is it relevant what branch of philosophy your courses fall under? Is the genre of fiction you teach relevant? Do you teach multiple genres? Is it relevant in what time period the stories and novels are written?

Does the surprise have to do with racist origins of modern phrases? Does it relate to ideology of the time the works were written?

Re: [Nimue] A surprise abot racism

PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:18 pm
by nimue
Are the relevant stories and novels linked by author? NO BUT IRREL Are the identities of the writers relevant? NO By theme, other than race? NO Is race/racism the main theme of all these relevant works? NO BUT IRREL

Is it relevant what branch of philosophy your courses fall under? NO Is the genre of fiction you teach relevant? NO Do you teach multiple genres?IRREL Is it relevant in what time period the stories and novels are written?NO

Does the surprise have to do with racist origins of modern phrases? NO Does it relate to ideology of the time the works were written? NO

Re: [Nimue] A surprise abot racism

PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:00 pm
by GalFisk
Is the surprising thing about: causes of racism? Effects? Perpetrators? Victims? Psychology? Phenomena related to racism?

Re: [Nimue] A surprise abot racism

PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:43 pm
by nimue
Is the surprising thing about: causes of racism? NO Effects? NO Perpetrators? YES Victims? YES Psychology? NO Phenomena related to racism?NOISH OR YOPE

Re: [Nimue] A surprise abot racism

PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:53 pm
by GalFisk
Is a specific aspect of the perpetrators relevant? Of the victims? If so: race? Education level? Profession? Economic status? Place of birth? Childhood?

Re: [Nimue] A surprise abot racism

PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:29 pm
by nimue
Is a specific aspect of the perpetrators relevant? YES Of the victims? YES If so: race? NO Education level? NO Profession? NO Economic status? NO Place of birth? YOPEChildhood?NO

Re: [Nimue] A surprise abot racism

PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:32 am
by GalFisk
Yopebirthplace: birth place of parents? Heritage? Place of childhood?

Re: [Nimue] A surprise abot racism

PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:03 pm
by nimue
Yopebirthplace: birth place of parents? NO Heritage? YOPE Place of childhood?YOPE

Re: [Nimue] A surprise abot racism

PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 2:08 am
by dlcygnet
Does it have something to do with where perpetrators/victims choose to live? Self-segregation? i.e. There's more racism in the northern US due to economic factors pricing minorities out of good school districts. Facebook echo chamber relevant?

(P.S. Welcome back! Just noticed today!)

Re: [Nimue] A surprise abot racism

PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 4:38 pm
by nimue
Does it have something to do with where perpetrators/victims choose to live? Self-segregation? i.e. There's more racism in the northern US due to economic factors pricing minorities out of good school districts. Facebook echo chamber relevant? NO TO ALL, BUT IT'S GREAT TO BE BACK!!

(P.S. Welcome back! Just noticed today!)

Re: [Nimue] A surprise abot racism

PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:23 pm
by trebor
Would you be able to say this thing before going over the first story, to the same effect? Do the students need to be familiar with one of the stories first before they'll be able to be surprised?

Are the relevant perpetrators characters in the books? Are the victims? Are your students the perpetrators/victims? Are you?

Place of birth: hospital? Home? Another specific building? An area of a city? A place within the United States?

Re: [Nimue] A surprise abot racism

PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:42 am
by trebor
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