[Balin] A CNN of omission

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[Balin] A CNN of omission

Postby Balin » Wed May 22, 2019 5:17 pm

A media organization reports a story which falls under the field they cover and involves a famous person in that field. However, in writing the story, the organization intentionally leaves out a quote from that person. They do this neither to protect nor tarnish the person's reputation. So why do they?
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Re: [Balin] A CNN of omission

Postby CoffeeBean » Wed May 22, 2019 6:59 pm

Is the person well respected? Have a good reputation?
Is the story about the person? Or more about the area of study or profession?
Did the person know they'd be referenced in a media story? Were they interviewed?
Were any of the person's quotes used in the story? Were anyone else's quotes used?
Is the topic of the story relevant? The field of focus or study?
Has this media outlet omitted this person's quotes in previous stories?
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Re: [Balin] A CNN of omission

Postby gregoryuconn » Wed May 22, 2019 8:23 pm

Is the field sports? Politics? Is the person still alive? Is it Trump? Fake news relevant? Was the quote irrelevant? Factually inaccurate?
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Re: [Balin] A CNN of omission

Postby Earnest » Thu May 23, 2019 7:23 am

Do general public understand that the quote has been left out intentionally? Is the famous person an actor? A sport man/woman? A politic? A singer? An enterpreneur (e.g. in luxury)? A business man? A king/queen? A writer? An historical person? A fantasy charachter? A commenter? A collegue?

Is the quote directly attributable to the person or maybe to a fantasy charchter he interpreted? To someone else?
Relevant how the person is involved in the story? Did the quote in fact fit in the story? Has the story been told several times? Are interviews relevant? Is the point of view of the story? The light in which they want to put the person? Is the quote about a relevant topic? Politics? About the topic told by the story? Is the quote well known to the public? Has the quote been cut from an interview? Did something embarassing happened? Something behind the scenes?
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Re: [Balin] A CNN of omission

Postby Balin » Thu May 23, 2019 9:30 pm

Is the person well respected? Assume so Have a good reputation? Assume so
Is the story about the person? This Or more about the area of study or profession?
Did the person know they'd be referenced in a media story? No Were they interviewed? No
Were any of the person's quotes used in the story? Yes Were anyone else's quotes used? Yes
Is the topic of the story relevant? Yes The field of focus or study? Not really
Has this media outlet omitted this person's quotes in previous stories? No

Is the field sports? Yes Politics? Thus, no Is the person still alive? Yes Is it Trump? No Fake news relevant? No Was the quote irrelevant? No Factually inaccurate? No

Do general public understand that the quote has been left out intentionally? Yes Is the famous person an actor? A sport man/woman? An athlete A politic? A singer? An enterpreneur (e.g. in luxury)? A business man? A king/queen? A writer? An historical person? A fantasy charachter? A commenter? A collegue?

Is the quote directly attributable to the person or maybe to a fantasy charchter he interpreted? Directly to the person To someone else?
Relevant how the person is involved in the story? Yes Did the quote in fact fit in the story? Yes Has the story been told several times? No Are interviews relevant? No Is the point of view of the story? Irrel The light in which they want to put the person? Irrel Is the quote about a relevant topic? Yes Politics? No About the topic told by the story? YOPE! Is the quote well known to the public? To a portion of the public Has the quote been cut from an interview? No Did something embarassing happened? For svv of "embarrassing" Something behind the scenes? No
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Re: [Balin] A CNN of omission

Postby Westing1992 » Thu May 23, 2019 11:36 pm

Is this a real person? Was the quote so fitting to the story that the organization decides it'd be better to omit it and let the readers fill it in themselves?
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Re: [Balin] A CNN of omission

Postby Earnest » Fri May 24, 2019 7:19 am

Bolt relevant? Had the sentence been told in a certain context? Did the circumstances changed with respect to when the athlete told the sentence? (E.g. change of partnership/sponsor/coach, a match lost...) are drugs involved? Scandals? Private life? Maradona and "hand of God"?

Was the sentence compketely omitted? Told by someone else? Written?

Relevant the sport practiced? May I invoke the list?
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Re: [Balin] A CNN of omission

Postby Balin » Sun May 26, 2019 10:37 pm

Is this a real person? Yes Was the quote so fitting to the story that the organization decides it'd be better to omit it and let the readers fill it in themselves? No

Bolt relevant? No Had the sentence been told in a certain context? Yes Did the circumstances changed with respect to when the athlete told the sentence? svv of "circumstances" (E.g. change of partnership/sponsor/coach, a match lost...) No to both are drugs involved? No Scandals? No Private life? No Maradona and "hand of God"? No

Was the sentence compketely omitted? Yes Told by someone else? No Written? When?

Relevant the sport practiced? No May I invoke the list? Sure - American football (but his sport is not relevant to the solution)
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Re: [Balin] A CNN of omission

Postby gregoryuconn » Mon May 27, 2019 2:20 am

Was the quote about the sport itself? Some relevant part of the sport? The draft? The rules? Relevant what publication this was in? A newspaper? A magazine? Was the person a player? A former player? Coach? Former coach? Owner? Recent Robert Kraft scandal relevant?
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Re: [Balin] A CNN of omission

Postby Earnest » Mon May 27, 2019 7:47 am

Relevant when the media reported the story?, the time of the day? Was the sentence rude? Inappropriate for certain people? For children? Could the quote influence the public? Could the quote be used as a proof for something? As a witness? As a legal act? Are rights relevant? Did the quote become a sentence used in spots? In advertisement? Would it have been considered surreptitious advertisement?

Was the whole story centered on the player? On his story? on the history of his sport? On a crime? On the story of his life? On rich people? On colleges? On business? On trials? On succesfull people? On records? Did the player appear as main charachter of the story reported? Marginal? In a spot? Had the player the possibility to do it, would he have included the sentence?
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Re: [Balin] A CNN of omission

Postby Balin » Mon May 27, 2019 1:02 pm

Was the quote about the sport itself? No, so No to these Some relevant part of the sport? The draft? The rules? Relevant what publication this was in? Yes A newspaper? A magazine? Neither (additionally, it was published online) Was the person a player? Yes A former player? Coach? Former coach? Owner? Recent Robert Kraft scandal relevant? No

Relevant when the media reported the story?, Yes the time of the day? No Was the sentence rude? Yes, DOYD of "rude" Inappropriate for certain people? No For children? No Could the quote influence the public? I wouldn't say "influence," No Could the quote be used as a proof for something? As a witness? As a legal act? Are rights relevant? No to all Did the quote become a sentence used in spots? No In advertisement? Certainly not Would it have been considered surreptitious advertisement? No

Was the whole story centered on the player? Yes On his story? on the history of his sport? On a crime? On the story of his life? On rich people? On colleges? On business? On trials? On succesfull people? On records? No to rest
Did the player appear as main charachter of the story reported? Yes Marginal? In a spot? Had the player the possibility to do it, would he have included the sentence? I don't understand this question
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Re: [Balin] A CNN of omission

Postby gregoryuconn » Mon May 27, 2019 9:56 pm

Did they include any other quotes from that person? Could they have if they wanted to? Media days relevant?

WAG: Is this Marshawn Lynch saying "I'm just here so I don't get fined" at Super Bowl media day and refusing to give any actual quotes?
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Re: [Balin] A CNN of omission

Postby Earnest » Tue May 28, 2019 7:57 am

Yes, DOYD of "rude" --> rude for a certain kind of audience? Belonging to a certain culture/religion? To a minority? Toward someone else? Someone present at the transmission? Toward the general public? Maybe it contained bad words and the story was told to the radio so that it could not be cited?

Is the way the story is organized/told relevant? A mute story? A series of pictures with music? Was the story in memory of the player? Are live interviews to the sport man being made during the transmission? Relevant? Did the man quote someone else? Did the man told the sentence during a speech? At a funeral? While on the pitch? During an interview? Replying to a question (about his private life? About his career? About an action he made? The reason why he did something? He changed team? His origins? Racism relevant? Others)? Told against someone relevant? In favor of someone? In favor of something? With a particular meaning? In a foreign language? Was the quotation made mainly through gestures that were later on translated into words? Made just by gestures?
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Re: [Balin] A CNN of omission

Postby Balin » Sat Jun 01, 2019 4:15 pm

Did they include any other quotes from that person? No Could they have if they wanted to? Yes Media days relevant? No

WAG: Is this Marshawn Lynch saying "I'm just here so I don't get fined" at Super Bowl media day and refusing to give any actual quotes? No, but that's a clever guess

Yes, DOYD of "rude" --> rude for a certain kind of audience? Yes, in more ways than one Belonging to a certain culture/religion? To a minority? Toward someone else? Someone present at the transmission? Toward the general public? Yes, in a way Maybe it contained bad words and the story was told to the radio so that it could not be cited? No

Is the way the story is organized/told relevant? Not really; it's told in an article online
A mute story? A series of pictures with music? Was the story in memory of the player? Are live interviews to the sport man being made during the transmission? Relevant? Did the man quote someone else? Did the man told the sentence during a speech? At a funeral? While on the pitch? During an interview? Replying to a question (about his private life? About his career? About an action he made? The reason why he did something? He changed team? His origins? Racism relevant? Others)? Told against someone relevant? In favor of someone? In favor of something? With a particular meaning? In a foreign language? Was the quotation made mainly through gestures that were later on translated into words? Made just by gestures? No to all
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Re: [Balin] A CNN of omission

Postby Balin » Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:23 pm

RECAP:

A football player made certain quotes that were reported on by a sports website. However, the website did not directly quote the player. The quotes could be considered "rude" to a certain audience, depending on your meaning of "rude."

HINT: The quotes themselves have nothing to do with sports.
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Re: [Balin] A CNN of omission

Postby Balin » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:57 am

the previous comment has a hint, so this is just a bump.
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