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[klondike mary] Intervention

Postby klondike mary » Sat Aug 17, 2019 3:01 pm

MaryBeth's parents are extremely grateful to Fred, though they never told him so
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Re: [klondike mary] Intervention

Postby Earnest » Sat Aug 17, 2019 3:20 pm

Fred = HAM? someone related to Marybeth? Her boyfriend? Her brother? A stranger? Someone who has done something positive to them? To marybeth? A favor? Saved her life? Relevant his profession? Grateful for something he did days before? Years before? Minutes before?

Relevant why they never told him so? Because they did not have the occasion? They were impossibilitated? They did not want to? Fred died before they could?
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Re: [klondike mary] Intervention

Postby Zanreo » Sat Aug 17, 2019 4:26 pm

Him = Fred? Another person? Was MaryBeth grateful to him? Did she know Fred?
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Re: [klondike mary] Intervention

Postby klondike mary » Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:43 pm

Fred = H/aM Yes. someone related to Marybeth? Not at all. Someone who had done something positive to them? Yes. Saved her life? Not literally, but explore. Relevant his profession? Yes. Something he had done days before? Years before? Something he did over a period of time.
Relevant why they never told him? I think probably because it did not occur to them to.
Fred died before they could? Fred is now deceased.

Him = Fred? Yes. Was Marybeth grateful to him? Yes. Did she know Fred? No, she never met him.
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Postby Zanreo » Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:24 am

Marybeth = HAF? HCF? Did Fred support or help Marybeth somehow? With money? Gifts?
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Re: [klondike mary] Intervention

Postby Earnest » Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:59 am

Fred died before Marybeth died? Fred is a doctor? Allows Marybeth to born? Not to die? Did he made a scientific research that allowed an illness to be cured?
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Re: [klondike mary] Intervention

Postby klondike mary » Tue Aug 20, 2019 2:48 pm

Marybeth = HAF? HCF? At the time, she was a child. Did Fred support or help Marybeth somehow? with money? gifts? He was of help to her, but not in the sense of material support.

Fred died before Marybeth died? Marybeth is still living. Is Fred a doctor? No. Did he make a scientific research that allowed an illness to be cured? No, but explore.
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Re: [klondike mary] Intervention

Postby Earnest » Tue Aug 20, 2019 4:44 pm

Did Mary benefit from Fred's help immediately after his intervention? Years after? Was she the only one that had a benefit from Fred? From Fred's work?

Did she allow Mary not to be killed? Did Fred save her from a potential threten to her?

Was Fred a scientist? A chemist? A movie maker? A singer (e.g. he made Mary's story known and that saved her life)? Did he work in entertainment industry? Technology? Internet? A sportsman? Food relevant? Minorities? Religion? Culture? Physical problems? Diseases?
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Re: [klondike mary] Intervention

Postby trebor » Tue Aug 20, 2019 7:16 pm

Did Fred work in the medical field? Would it be fair to say that many people are grateful to Fred, not just Mary and her family? If he didn't save her life exactly, did he improve her quality of life? Extend her life expectancy? Was he alive at the same time she was?

Also, holding back on other questions and PMing a guess.
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Re: [klondike mary] Intervention

Postby klondike mary » Wed Aug 21, 2019 6:21 am

Did Marybeth benefit from Fred's help immediately? fairly soon.
Did Fred allow Mary not to be killed? No - not that serious. Did Fred save her from a potential threat? NA
Fred was an entertainer, all other professions no or n.r. Food, religion, etc, all n.r..
Did Fred work in the medical field? No. Would it be fair to say that many people would be grateful, not just Mary and her family? Probably, though maybe not all to the same degree. If he didn't save her life, did he improve her quality of life?Yea Extend her life expectency? n.r. Was he alive at the same time she was? Their lives did overlap.
I'm holding back on other questions, and PMing a guess. No, Trebor, Fred is not Frederick Banting, and Marybeth did not have diabetes. FA has been lurkig.
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Re: [klondike mary] Intervention

Postby Earnest » Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:58 am

Did Fred better the quality if Mary's life directly? Did they meet? Is Fred a cartoon maker? Entertainer = a clown? A painter? A cartoon painter? A manga painter? A moviemaker? A musician? An actor? A singer? A writer? A game designer? A video-game designer? Did he relevantly appear in TV? In cinema? Are documentaries relevant? Is the type of entertainment he does relevant? Did Fred help Mary with an activity that can be considered the main one he does? Did Fred want to help her voluntarily? Is publication of relevant info relevant? Did Fred entertain mainly Mary? Her parents? None of the two? Did Fred use relevant tools? Did he perform shows/tricks? Was him a magician? Did Mary benefit from Fred's help when she was a baby? When she was a child? Could she have had a benefit also if she were adult? If not, relevant? Did Fred perform shows for charity? Did he finance scientific research? Did he allow exoerinents to take place in his shows?

Did Mary belong to a minority? Was her family poor? Was Mary a jew? Is Nazism relevant? (E.g. Fred was able to hide jews/ give them a job)

Better Mary's life = her health? Avoid sufferences to her? Avoid her to be discriminated? Allowed her to make use of something (e.g. something he invented)? Alleviated her sufferences? Facilitated her in doing something? Prevent a mistake that could have been fatal to her?
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Re: [klondike mary] Intervention

Postby klondike mary » Wed Aug 21, 2019 4:15 pm

Did Fred better the quality of Mary's life directly? No Did they meet? No. Is Fred a cartoon maker? No, but explore. A manga maker? A musician? Actor? Thisish. singer? A writer? Also thisish,. All others no. Did he relevantly appear on TV? Yes! Are documentaries relevant? Yope. Is the type of entertainment he does relevant? Yes. Did Fred help Mary with an activity that can be considered the main one he does? Don't quite understand the question, but probably yessish. Did Fred want to help her voluntairily? I think he wanted to help people in general, but he did not know her personally. Is publication of relevant info relevant? DYOD of 'publication.' Did Fred entertain mainly Mary? Yes Did Fred use relevant tools? Noish. Did he perform shows/tricks? Was him a magician? "Shows' in some sense; no tricks and not a magician. Did Mary benefit from Fred's help when she was a baby? A child? Small child, maybe 3-4. Could she have benefited when she was an adult? Difficult to say, so n/r. Did Fred perform shows for charity? n.r. Did he finance scientific research? Did he allow experiments to take place on his shows? No or n.r. to both.

Did Mary belong to a minority? n.r. Was her family poor? I would say middle-class. Religion, social status, etc., all no or nr.

I think US citizens may have an edge in this puzzle. Sorry, Earnest!
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Re: [klondike mary] Intervention

Postby Earnest » Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:22 pm


I think US citizens may have an edge in this puzzle. Sorry, Earnest! ---> doh! I'll do my best anyway!


So Fred helped her in general? Can we say he helped her growing? Or maybe overcoming a particular moment of her life? Helped her with homeworks? Helped her using technology? Heloed her interacting eith other children? Helped her with some test? Helped her not disobeing her parents? Helped her parents educating her? Helped Mary not believing in Santa Clous? To do something on her own?

When Fred appeared in Tv, did he mainly: teach something to children? Expose/tell/sing about historical/educating topics? Teaching how to behave? How to read? Giving them an advantage over other children? Interactive show relevant (e.g. Art attack)? Did Fred personificate some relevant charachter? ) Did Fred help her over a period of time (e.g. a year or more)? Or maybe just after she saw him once in TV?

Did Fred appear in a TV show? In its own TV show? For more than 5 minutes? More than an hour? Every day? Every week? In the same day? Relevant? Does Fred dub cartoons? Interview them? Have some relevant interaction with them? Are cartoons parts of his show? Does Fred perform a show that can be considered unique? If so its unicity is given by: the originality of the topic? The original way in which he treated a not original topic (e.g. interaction with cartoons/ rewriting the stories of movies in a "children frinedly" way?)? Or maybe just the fact that he entertained babies so that the parents could leave them a lone for an amount of time being sure?
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Re: [klondike mary] Intervention

Postby trebor » Wed Aug 21, 2019 8:25 pm

He entertained mainly Mary, but he appeared on TV? Could you clarify this?

Is he a children’s performer? Fred Rogers? Fred Penner? Is he on assessment Street? A puppeteer? Is he on another TV show? For children? (Assuming present tense, but same questions for past, if necessary.)

Are MB’s parents grateful because Fred teaches MB an important lesson? Develops in her a certain ability? Inspires her? Distracts her so they can get some time to themselves?
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Re: [klondike mary] Intervention

Postby klondike mary » Thu Aug 22, 2019 5:30 pm

Can we say he helped her growing? Or maybe overcoming a particular moment of her life? This. Helped her interacting with other children? and this. Helped her with not disobeying her parents? This too. All the rest, no or n.r. The help was mainly psychological.

When Fred appeared on TV, did he teach something to children? Yes. Teach how to behave? Yes. Did Fred personificate some relevant character? No. He appeared as himself. Did Fred help her over a period of time (e.g. a year or more) ? An unspecified period of time, but probably at least a year.

Did Fred appear in a TV show? In his own TV show? Yes to both. It ran every weekday and lasted at least half an hour, to the best of my memory. Cartoons not relevant. You might say his show was unique, and 'children-friendly' and 'safe' as well. All other questions are no or n.r..

He entertained mainly Mary, but he appeared on TV. Can you clarify this? He was enertaining mainly to her, and other children, rather than parents.
Is he a children's entertainer? Fred Rogers? Yes!
Are MB's parents grateful because he teaches her an important lesson? Inspires her? Yes to these. Distracts her? A little bit of this too, perhaps!
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Re: [klondike mary] Intervention

Postby Zanreo » Thu Aug 22, 2019 6:29 pm

Did Mary misbehave before? Did he teach her something her parents didn't manage to teach her themselves?
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Re: [klondike mary] Intervention

Postby klondike mary » Fri Aug 23, 2019 11:27 pm

Did Mary misbehave before? Yes! Did he teach her something her parents didn't manage to teach her? More like calmed her down so her parents could teach her.

This is mostly solved, so here is the
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As a small child of about 3 or 4, MaryBeth was hyperactive, and something of a brat and a bully. She terrorized her sister - who was 5 years older! What one might assume to be a perfectly harmless story would set her off on violent action. The only thing that seemed to calm her was watching 'Mr. Roger's Neighborhood." This was after the invention of VCRs, so they taped as many shows as they could and she watched the over and over, all other stimulation being forbidden. Gradually, she improved.
She is now a gentle, mature, grown-up young woman. When her mother saw the documentary about Mr. Rogers, she was moved to tears, as he seemed to be pretty much ths same kind of person off camera as on. She wished she had written to him and told him how he helped MaryBeth, but they just aren't the kind of people who write to celebrities.
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