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The Chatroom

Postby Balin » Mon Sep 02, 2019 4:22 pm

With a year's chat archived, hopefully we can get some more chatter going.
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby Balin » Mon Sep 02, 2019 4:39 pm

(additionally, can a mod with pinning powers pin this to the top, please?)
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby peter365 » Fri Sep 06, 2019 7:49 am

Thanks for archiving Balin , as you can see I've pinned it to the top of the page. The chatroom is dying a slow death on this forum for some reason.
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby WiZ » Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:55 pm

A strange and unexplained death, you say? Sounds about right for a forums devoted to Lateral Thinking Puzzles.
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby peter365 » Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:14 am

The music stopped the chatroom died.
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby Admin » Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:16 am

Here is the up to date list of all time most posts by members of the forum:

GalFisk
9053
Sweden

Balin
7475
Connecticut, USA

RedWine
4180
Poland

WiZ
2914
Wellington, New Zealand

Earnest
2493

Grip
2358
Central Florida, USA

irishelk
2020
Washington DC-ish

peter365
1950
Dublin, Ireland

JenBurdoo
1727
Florida, USA

invisiblemimsy
1677
Scotland

Acridian9
1479
Pisa, Italy

Doriana
1424
Göttingen, Germany

CoffeeBean
1318

Solong
1297

wolfier
1128

Zanreo
1074
Norway

LemonCurry
959
Worms, Germany

jumpingjacks
948
London, UK

trebor
889
Canada

Hobbsicle
839
Texas, United States

Westing1992
787
United States
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby WiZ » Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:39 pm

What a multicultural bunch we are! The top 5 alone covers 5 countries, 3 continents, and 5 official languages (although Te Reo Maori is kind of on life support, practically speaking)
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby Earnest » Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:07 am

*.* it's an honour to be in the top 5
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby peter365 » Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:19 am

Interesting list Paul.

Despite my longevity on both versions of the forum i've never been a prolific poster which is probably due to the fact that I don't host that many puzzles. I really need to be a bit more proactive in coming up with puzzle ideas.

Anyway it's lovely to see such an amazing geographical spread.

keep it up folks.
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby Zanreo » Wed Sep 18, 2019 8:09 am

Hey, I'm in the top 20, cool! And I should also try coming up with some more puzzles now that I'm back...
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby Hobbsicle » Thu Sep 19, 2019 2:46 am

I barely made it on this list. I should...
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby Hobbsicle » Thu Sep 19, 2019 2:46 am

...post more often.
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby GalFisk » Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:49 am

I should post more seldom :mrgreen:
But I enjoy the LTPF, though I always seem to cycle between binging and having a break.
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby Balin » Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:44 am

I've been very lax in posting lately. Should probably get back on here a bit more.
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby WiZ » Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:37 am

It would be one heck of a party if everyone on that list managed to be here at the same time.
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby trebor » Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:41 pm

I’m quite pleased to have cracked the list, given my relatively recent joining. (Not as recent as some more frequent posters though!) For me it’s often the case that I’ll log in, read any new developments, and then not post if I don’t have the brain space. I also haven’t hosted the one or two puzzles I’ve thought of, for the same reason.
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby Earnest » Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:41 am

I guess it's something subjective. I post a lot every time I can since for me it's a relaxing activity (quite like smoking suring the pause for someone else). Sometimes it is also a way to free the brain from any other tedious problem. I must admit that it could end up in asking boring or useless questions but at least it contributes to the forum I hope! :)
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby WiZ » Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:36 pm

Hi, everyone.

So, when I'm not devising Lateral Thinking Puzzles or writing bad opening sentences to novels, I'm also a songwriter, and I've just released my 5th compilation of tracks I've worked with artists across the world on. Here is the press release:

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It's back, and better than ever! Now! That's What I Call Wordsmith, the 5th compilation album by Stephen Wordsmith and the artists of FAWM and 50/90!

18 Massive* hits, featuring artists from New Zealand, Australia, The US, UK, Canada, Germany, The Netherlands, Belgium and Finland.

Featuring genres such as acoustic rock, alt-folk, celtic rock, schoolhouse rap, spoken-word space opera, lateral-thinking-puzzle African chant and help-a-ghost-is-dragging-me-into-a-closet ethereal piano capella.

Discover how much evil can be packed into a teaspoon. See the connections between a sunless planet and a drunken country driver. Find out why it's the kitten who gets the lion's share out of humans. Dive into the internal monologue of a suicide prevention hotline worker when he fields a call from his mother. Sneak a peek at the log of the captain of a ship in a bottle.

It's all here, and all from the mind of Stephen Wordsmith, Wellington's fourth-most eminent Shower Philosopher*. Listen, and enjoy!

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https://stephenwordsmith.bandcamp.com/a ... -wordsmith
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Postby peter365 » Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:04 am

You certainly sell it well.
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby irishelk » Tue Oct 08, 2019 3:47 pm

WiZ wrote:It would be one heck of a party if everyone on that list managed to be here at the same time.


Pick a time, I'll be here! :mrgreen:
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby WiZ » Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:29 pm

Check out the webathon threads in the chatroom archives to see just how compatible my time zone is with everyone else's!
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby trebor » Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:21 pm

Does anyone else have an issue with messages languishing in their outbox instead of being sent? Am I doing something wrong sometimes?
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby Balin » Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:56 pm

I've seen some of mine in the outbox but I always assumed they were sent too. Hadn't thought about it much... hmm.
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby WiZ » Tue Nov 12, 2019 11:36 pm

I have noticed that some of my messages are sent to the outbox after I click send, but I have nonetheless had the person I was writing to reply while it was there.

It may be more of an issue of the sent message being routed strangely at the sender's end than never actually leaving at all.
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby trebor » Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:46 pm

I've noticed now that the two messages in my outbox are intended for recipients who haven't logged in since I've sent them. I'm thinking that has something to do with it.
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby WiZ » Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:41 pm

I suppose I'll uphold the LTPF tradition and announce my birthday in the Chatroom. I am now 34, which means I have all of one year left to tick the 25-34 box on survey forms, or apply for any sort of workshop or programme with 'Young' in the title.

It's strange for me to think back on being 18, seeing events open to people aged 18-35, and thinking that 35 couldn't possibly be considered 'young' - that age belonged to people with cushy jobs, nice houses and two kids starting primary school and generally well on the way to mastering the universe.

Looking at that now, it seems I have a lot to accomplish in the next 12 months.
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby peter365 » Wed Nov 20, 2019 10:11 am

Belated happy birthday WiZ , even more belated given that you live in the future. Enjoy these years while you can!
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby trebor » Thu Nov 21, 2019 4:50 am

Happy belated! I am only marginally older and find consolation in the fact that, even if I have less than nothing in my bank account and certainly no kids/mortgage payments/etc. in my visible future, at the very least I can say that once in a while I’m able to solve a LTP, and participate in a number of others.
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby trebor » Thu Nov 21, 2019 4:52 am

Does anybody else listen to the Futility Closet podcast?
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby peter365 » Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:49 am

No but having read the wiki page about it I might check it out as it sounds very interesting. I suscribe to about 15 different podcasts that keep me company on the long commute to and from work.
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby trebor » Thu Nov 21, 2019 5:40 pm

I love the podcast, and somewhere around episode twenty or thirty they started doing a lateral thinking puzzle at the end of each one. Of course, some will already be known to people on here because they're from books, but many aren't. I keep meaning to start listening to other podcasts but I keep wanting to get caught up on this one instead.
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Rocket Fuel for the Brain - FB Group

Postby Admin » Sun Dec 01, 2019 4:58 pm

Futility closet sounds futile and hidden so just up my street. If you are on facebook please join my new group, Rocket Fuel for the Brain. And post any interesting stuff there relating to thinking, memory, problem solving or ideas. Thanks. Paul
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby WiZ » Sun Dec 01, 2019 7:28 pm

I've just signed up, and told my manager about this, too - She lives and breathes learning theory, and is forever sending me links to innovative ideas to try with my learners. Perhaps I can contribute an article or two...
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby Balin » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:18 pm

Apologies for the inactivity over the last few days, especially running the Christmas puzzle. But I hope that can be assuaged with the once-regular-but-now-occasional traditional announcement of an LTPF birthday - I've turned 28 today.
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby WiZ » Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:34 pm

Happy birthday, Balin, and well done on avoiding joining the 27 club.
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby Hobbsicle » Wed Dec 11, 2019 5:30 am

Happy birthday, Avalon! Baking. Baling. Balin. Spell-correct is full of great ideas.

Lots of good puzzles around here. Haven’t been able to participate too much, but I’ve been watching in the wings. Quality is high as always. Maybe a little too high. Tone it down a bit, guys.
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby Earnest » Wed Dec 11, 2019 8:38 pm

Happy birthday!!!!!
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby peter365 » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:09 am

Many happy returns Balin.
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby irishelk » Sat Dec 14, 2019 6:31 pm

@Balin--Happy Belated!

@Hobbs--don't worry, I'll be posting plenty of mediocre puzzles directly.

@everybody--
I posted this on my solved puzzle, but I'll say it here too so that there's a chance someone will read it: Has anyone ever reached out to the Futility Closet people? I'm tempted to ask them to do a quick plug of the LTPF, but I haven't listened to many back episodes yet so I didn't know if that was already a thing. I bet some of their listeners would be great new forum members.

P.S. Already super excited for PUZZEL OF THE YEAR!
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby WiZ » Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:31 pm

We've had a different person host the thread since 2016 - perhaps you could do the honours this year, IrishElk.
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby trebor » Sun Dec 15, 2019 11:23 pm

I’m working my way through the Futility Closet archives. I’m on episode 189 (working forward from the first, not backward). I’ve sent them an email completely unrelated to this forum, but I’m wanting to let them know about us. In particular, Balin, I think your puzzle about the two-month prison stay would be right up their alley. I’ve yet to hear the LTPF mentioned.
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby Earnest » Tue Dec 17, 2019 10:00 am

P.S. Already super excited for PUZZEL OF THE YEAR!

Me tooooo. Ready to vote!
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby irishelk » Tue Dec 17, 2019 2:05 pm

Cool, I will drop a line to F.C.

And yes, I'm happy to host the voting thread this year. We usually don't start it until after the first, right?
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby Balin » Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:25 pm

Yep, that way December puzzles don't get left out of the voting.
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby WiZ » Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:41 pm

Thanks to Balin's clues, we have 120 of the best puzzles all together in one book, which I am still halfway through consolidating stylistically. I may make finishing this a summer project while the government shuts down over Christmas, especially if it's going to continue to pour with rain every day.
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Postby irishelk » Wed Dec 18, 2019 12:45 pm

That's so exciting, WiZ! Let me know if you could use help. I've got a couple of weeks pretty free now, then I'm pretty swamped until May.
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby WiZ » Wed Dec 18, 2019 7:51 pm

Can you draw? I think it would be neat if we had some wry little illustrations a la Myron Miller, offering facetious solutions for some of the puzzles.

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Re: The Chatroom

Postby Earnest » Thu Dec 19, 2019 8:14 am

Very nice WiZ! Thanks for spreading lateral thinking!
If any helpp needed in future, let me know :)
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby irishelk » Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:56 pm

I could give it a try! And if I fail, I have some artistic friends. Any particular puzzles you have in mind to be illustrated? Feel free to PM or email (eskaypen@live.com).
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby WiZ » Mon Dec 23, 2019 2:26 am

All right, I have e-mailed you a design brief plus a master copy of all the puzzles, in case you wish to come up with your own ideas.

I have to say that, even as an instructional designer, I found the process of looking at puzzles, thinking of cartoons of hilarious wrong answers (that only made sense in context) and then describing them verbally, to be very strange. Paul, how did you and Myron go about it?
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby WiZ » Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:28 am

A somewhat belated Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you all. Whatever it is you love most about this time of year, be it the presents, the time with loved ones, or the retreat from daily life, I hope it was all you wanted it to be.

I've finished formatting the compilation of puzzles, now. 120 puzzles, 360 clues, 65 pages and 20,969 words. Will stick up a contents and index page if and when I discover whether the book will have illustrations :)
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby Hobbsicle » Fri Jan 10, 2020 6:48 pm

I want to express my frustrations with this forum, in the way that it consistently keeps songs running through my head. Particular accusations must be leveled against Balin, because I have walked at LEAST 100 thousand miles, and am ready to fall down at anyone’s door! Sometimes the slight is unintentional, as is likely the case with IrishElk. Melinda may move, but it’s alright, because she moves in mysterious ways. I’m just lucky I don’t know that much REM, or I’d have to leave, though sometimes just their mention has me standing in the place where I work and pushing an elephant up the stairs. Something needs to change, because I can’t shake it off! Shake it off! Shake...dang it!

(And scene)
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby peter365 » Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:35 pm

Apparently there are 50 ways to leave this forum :D
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby Earnest » Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:02 am

Sorry for changing topic but I would like to have news about people in Australia. Fires seem a huge concern and I understood that many people had to leave their houses...so...I don't know if from Italy any help can be given but still...
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby WiZ » Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:08 am

Well, it's pretty dire. Nearly 30 lives lost, 3000 homes destroyed, and the fires have covered an area 2/3 the size of Italy and continue to spread. The smoke has now spread as far as Chile, and is turning the blue summer skies of Oceania into hazy greyness. The current Prime Minister is not helping the situation, as he refuses to give firefighters the financial support they require, or acknowledge the effect that climate change has had in leading to more frequent and widespread bushfire seasons.

Each and every day, people are dealing with the loss of their homes and property, having to flee their communities and neighbourhoods, and the mental stress and anguish of the constant danger and uncertainty around them. Firefighters, both paid and voluntary, are risking life and limb all the time in their efforts to extinguish and control the fires. Like so many in the wider world, it's not surprising you feel a little helpless and wish you could do something to better the situation.

Your most likely option is to make a donation - as every little bit helps. Firefighters are paying for their own gear. Business operators are suffering massive losses. People are recovering property and shelling out for the cost of relocation. Here is a list of ways to fundraise or make a donation - given where you are, it's probably most suitable just to give money directly. The page categorises the various charities so you can choose to an extent which area you wish to help out in - be it environmental or wildlife protection, rebuilding communities or supporting the mental health of Australians. You also have options to purchase art or healthcare products with all proceeds going towards the fire effort.

Cheers from Oceania.
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby WiZ » Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:11 am

Just a quick disclaimer that you may wish to stick to the list, as there are a lot of scam operators and fundraisers where most of the money donated is channelled towards the charity's operating costs or whatever. The organisations linked on that page have all been vetted to ensure that your money will go to the relief effort, but there is a link to the charities register at the top if you wanted to investigate any particular one before you committed to it.
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby trebor » Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:43 am

I met a few Australians this summer touring the Fringe circuit here in Canada. To see how the situation has been impacting them (not to mention, like, all the Australians I don't know) is heartbreaking. I find it terrifying how some people in relatively geographically safe areas of the world also have such cavalier attitudes towards natural disasters and climate change. It's good to know there are people around the world willing and able to step up to the plate in times of crisis.
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Lateral Thinking Webinar

Postby Admin » Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:34 am

I am giving a short webinar on the subject on Lateral Thinking and Challenging Assumptions on Tuesday Jan 21 at 14.00 GMT. I will make some reference to lateral thinking puzzles in the course of the webinar. There is no charge. Why not join us? https://lnkd.in/gzZTF9y
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby irishelk » Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:48 pm

@Hobbsicle--I'm sorry for your pain, and rest assured I feel it too! I even had a puzzle about this a while back: how I intentionally stopped naming puzzles with song titles, and it didn't help at all.

@Admin--Unfortunately I had to miss it, but thank you for the recorded version! Looking forward to watching it when I have a minute.
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby Earnest » Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:57 am

@Wiz i am really sorry for that. In Italy funds have been raised and it's much more convenient to contribute directly through them. I saw the images from the Satellite and what to say?! I just hope that authorities or rains will be quick. At least, I guess, the whole situation should keep the virus away...
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Re: The Chatroom

Postby peter365 » Mon Feb 17, 2020 8:57 am

Hi there,

My fellow moderators may have noticed a recent spike in new User emails , my spam countermesasure questions seem only to last a few months before the Bots start getting past them.

I've updated them this morning so that should stop them for a while. I've checked all of the emails and not a genuine user in sight from what I could see.
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